Mukunda Murthi Rao
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Thanks for ur concern, but no thanks.Same bla bla bla stories. No one is interested. so dont waste our time.
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Thanks for ur concern, but no thanks.Same bla bla bla stories. No one is interested. so dont waste our time.
civil unrest became the norm and relations with the US and Israel collapsed.
There was a net addition of land for india, wasnt it? And india gained that land because of the foolishness of pakistani leaders.
See the real contradiction in ur claim, they were opportunisitc. Instead of fighting the oppressors, u foght ur own brothers...
I hate to be rude, but pehle angrezo ki chati, fir jb azafi milne wali thi, apne hi bhaio se ladkr ghar ka batwara krdia.
And let me tell u, there was mostly harmony between hindus and muslims.
Jinnah invented the theory, and filled the society with hatred and mistrust.
And please quote instances of hindu muslim conflict before 1930.
I see these quit a bit but I always find it as Indian propaganda and fake, Why? Well because countries like Afghanistan, Somalia, Ethiopia, Rwanda and most of all India are never on the list. And I will tell you guys why I said India; well probably one of India's most famous city's Mumbai is full of slums which just shows that only the rich can live there, at lease in Pakistan the poor have a small house or rent one (there are not a lot of slums in Pakistan), India not pointed out for abuse of human rights in Kashmir and Khalistan?
There were 565 princely states apart from British, Portuguese, French controlled lands.
Out of the 565 princely states, 552 of them joined India while 13 joined Pakistan. These happened post 1947.
We added Goa after chasing out the Portuguese, Pondicherry after chasing out the french, Sikkim, Manipur etc were added much after 1947.
The two Muslim ruled princely states of Hyderabad and Junagad who wanted to join Pakistan were also eventually joined with India.
The ruler of J&K wanted it to be a free country, but post Pakistani attack...J&K was acceded to India.
Kargil region was acquired post 1947.
The latest acquisition was Siachen in 84. So I would think that India only gained land..not lost.
Letting go of Muslim majority regions isn't really a loss...kashmir valley is the only Muslim dominated region in India..and see how much trouble they cause. Aksai chin was definitely a loss.
Poor @haviZsultan Lucknow joined India as well..The nawab of Lucknow's family is probably running a hotel somewhere.
No, India didn't gain anything. India only lost land, the scumbag leader of Kashmir signed off Kashmir to India despite many of his people wishing otherwise. Our leaders and their quick thinking are the only reason we hold even a shred of Kashmir.
As for fighting our brothers, please don't call us that. After how you and your countrymen have describe us, our country and our religion, please don't even call us friends. We cannot coexist under one state, the best we can do is live without fighting each other in our own seperate lands. Want proof? Here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_violence_in_India
There was not, and there is still not peace and harmony between Hindus and Muslims in the region as the above link clearly shows. I can name a few cases, such as the Gujrat incident, the oppression of Jammu and Kashmir, the invasion of Hyderabad, etc. Pakistan was and is necessary for Muslims in the sub continent to be free and actually control themselves, rather than be told what to do by another group of people with different intentions.
Our leaders were smart, they managed to carve a country out of nothing, unite all these different ethnic groups under one state, and are so far the only country to have been born out of Islam. Also, Jinnah did not invent the theory, that was the great man Iqbal himself. Jinnah only executed the plan. The vision has been lost along the way, but ultimately I prefer what we have then being under Indian rule, because at least we can make our own decisions and control our own destiny, rather than someone else with a different mindset then me.
P.S I don't speak any language other than English so whatever you typed in (what I assume is) Hindi, I can't understand it and quite frankly I don't care what it is, as it's probably just rude nonsense.
I see these quit a bit but I always find it as Indian propaganda and fake, Why? Well because countries like Afghanistan, Somalia, Ethiopia, Rwanda and most of all India are never on the list. And I will tell you guys why I said India; well probably one of India's most famous city's Mumbai is full of slums which just shows that only the rich can live there, at lease in Pakistan the poor have a small house or rent one (there are not a lot of slums in Pakistan), India not pointed out for abuse of human rights in Kashmir and Khalistan?
India existed prior to 1947, and throughout its history it has lost a lot more land then it has gained.
Hyderabad and Junagad were only acquired through mass murder.
As for Kargil, we still own point 5353,
and as for the Siachen, we still own a fair portion (I know that's totally unrelated to the subject but I just thought I should mention it so you don't think you own all of Kargil or the Siachen).
The leader of J and K signed his land off to India, thats more than enough for me to know his intentions were to join India.
Oh and if Kashmir valley is so much hassle, why not just let their land gain independence like they want to?
Buddy this is Mumbai.By the way do you know any thing about Mumbai.Yes Mumbai have slums, but it is the city of skyscrapers.It is the city having one of the most beautiful airport terminal in the world,it is the city of billionaires,It is the city of world's largest film industry,it is the city where the combined stock exchanges worth around 3.3 trillion dollar market cap.The city having both metro and monorail...
Do you know that Google,Microsoft and many multinational giants CEO are basically Indians ! Do you know that many IIT toppers are recruited with unimaginable salary in MNC's and lucky to work in india or abroad,Do you know that Indian IT industry is around 147 billion dollar and so many foreigner's consider Indians as software people.Do you know that indian actors/actress know many parts of the world including peoples in middle east.Do you know that Yoga is popular in US with almost 3 million people following the practise.Do you know that world's largest oil refinery is in India and not in Saudi,China or US with refined products export it to US.Do you know that ISRO is considered one of the pioneer in space and launched many satellites of western world and the only space organisation of putting Mars orbitor in first attempt.Do you know that since india is growing faster GDP growth rate than any major economy and so foreigners are investing heavily in Indian market with fdi 61.5 billion dollar/year.Do you know that 'Made in India' metro trains are exported to Australia and the list goes on.....
The world have different point of view about india and indians ....You can like or hate india but will not change facts.
You forgot about the Indian girl that Edhi Foundation helped?This patient from Lahore.Luckly this girl is alive only because of indian medical facility nearby her city lahore
There are 1000's of cases like her and move to india for treatment
Exactly! We know what we are,a better economy willCome on yar, you also know about "lists" like this. Who makes them, why these are made. Every country included in this list is target due to various aspects, some countries are just not letting global companies to snatch their national assets, some countries are enemies of the friends of the makers of this list, and other countries are just not obeying enough. So, when ever I see ranking like these, the first thinking that strikes my mind is like "okay , another pressure gimmick by masters".
Lolz no one talk abt these stuffYou forgot about the Indian girl that Edhi Foundation helped?
Indian ownership through the centuries was fluid. Nationhood concept took root in the 1900's when many countries became nations states - including your buddies the chinese became a nation.
Indians do not rue letting go of the Muslim dominated regions because they are a pain in the rear end and do not believe in secularism, democracy or nationhood concept.
India would have been in lo of trouble if Pakistan (almost 100% muslim) hadn't separated, it was a great boon for India.
Except the butt hurt Kalistanis no one regrets losing the fertile land of Pakistani Punjab -
The rest of Pakistan including GB isn't missed by anyone in India. (The sunni wahaabi of kashmir or the jamaatis might be weeping for their brethren across - but no one gives a **** about that).
Hyderabad and Junagad was integrated not through mass murder but because of mass murder committed by the A hole nawab killing the non Muslims. They deserved what they got as always.
Sure, the issue is that all approaches to it is from Pakistani side, it's irrelevant. We will get it eventually though.assuming that the pakistani army was driven out of 140 peaks even when they had dug in deep and had strategic position was the highlight.
Now even if Pakistan desires, it cannot take over a peak because it will be construed as an attack on India because your generals handed Kargil to India on a platter.
The only important location there is Siachen glacier where Pakistan was conducting tourist excursions prior to 84...The whole glacier is controlled by India.
That's why it's still disputed, India claims what it owns...but on the other hand...There is seriously no desire to work towards it because it's undesirable.
India owns the land...The sunni of the valley are free to migrate to the land which was made for Muslims. .even to the one they call Azad.
@dsr478
BTW, this thread is testimony why no one will miss that lost land to Muslims..being associated with the 3rd worst country ain't really desirable material...so India really didn't lose any land.
Kashmir has some desirability because it's ruled by India..If it was free..It would be another Pakistan or Afghanistan.
U might have gotten the whole of kashmir if u would have just waited patiently.
As far pakistan's origin in concerned, u talking about creating a country for muslims, look where it has gotten u....
To be frank, all the hateful muslims left, and the peace loving ones lived and even prospered in india.
U mentioned babri and gujarat, those are abberations, had hindus wanted to eliminate muslims, u wouldnt find any left, how did they survive 70 yrs?
U created pakistan to protect muslims, but u have killed more muslims than hindus have killed muslims in india, just for perspective.
And if u stayed in india, u would have greater numbers to influence politics.
And yes, now that u r not with us, we are releaved, else this thread would have featured india and not pakistan
You forgot about the Indian girl that Edhi Foundation helped?
First of all learn to sell; it's lies not "lyes". Secondly what is your point about Kashmir? Is it that Pakistan is fighting a proxy-war in IOK? India and Indian media is full of bull sh*t and lies, 1 example is India's famous channel "Times Now" that showed load shedding protests to be so called "Free Blochistan Protests". Now we move on to education; Did you know we produce the world's 7th largest pool of doctors and engineers?, I have seen more educated Pakistanis than Indians abroad and I am talking about a lot of countries. Lastly you said " India focused on infrastructure,job creation,poverty reduction etc and not wasting time on useless old disputes.". Still India has the world's largest poverty rate, Indian PM fighting a proxy-war in Blochistan and killing innocent Kashmiris; is that not "Useless old disputes"? Come up with some thing better for God sake. Retards like you have no knowledge and comment on so called political stuff.I don't how you can relate a lady stuck in pakistan and with help of edhi foundation, have to relate pakistani patients coming for treatment in india.Pakistani patients coming to India for treatment is because there is no good facilities and doctors available in pakistan to give them proper treatment especially complicated surgeries.There are 1000's of pakistani patients coming to india for treatment every year and cost is very less compared to surgeries done in other countries.So these patients are also saving lot of money.In india even some Tier2 cities have better healthcare facilities and hospitals than in pakistan biggest cities like Lahore,Islamabad or Karachi.
Pakistan focus always lyes on Kashmir,Indian is our enemy policy so that education,healthcare,infrastructure etc not focused and budget always preferred on defence to compete with india.But what happened is that it fail to compete with india on defence nor on education,healthcare.Wrong priorities is why the country still suffering and ultimately caused bad reputation in world stage.India also have short comings, but we are heading in right direction.India focused on infrastructure,job creation,poverty reduction etc and not wasting time on useless old disputes.