'Pakistan still considers India as its principal enemy'

[was]

india should forget about becoming south asia,s sheriff.and stop destebalising pakistan to acieve its object

 

[third eye]

What is the author trying to imply here? Pakistan still considers India as its principal enemy, isn't the feeling mutual on both sides, question is why shouldn't Pakistan consider India its principal enemy. India from its existence have done each and every thing in its power to destroy or destabilize Pakistan, 71 is right there in front of us. Those who think Pakistan hasn't learned from its mistakes are serious mistaken themselves, we let our guard down once and payed a heavy price, we won't let our guard down ever again when it comes down to India.

India does consider Pak to be an enemy but not its principal enemy.

Not that one is trying to imply that Pak will be a push over if it ever comes to a crunch but there are other contenders for the top slot.

It has a lot to do with a nations national aspirations & where it sees itself 5, 10 , 15 even 30 years from when an assessment is made.

Pak does not fit the bill.

As regards Pak considering India to be enemy No 1..perfectly understandable. Doesn't need elaboration.

 

[was]

India does consider Pak to be an enemy but not its principal enemy.

Not that one is trying to imply that Pak will be a push over if it ever comes to a crunch but there are other contenders for the top slot.

It has a lot to do with a nations national aspirations & where it sees itself 5, 10 , 15 even 30 years from when an assessment is made.

Pak does not fit the bill.

As regards Pak considering India to be enemy No 1..perfectly understandable. Doesn't need elaboration.

that,s why india has more than half of it,s troops along the border with pakistan????

 

[third eye]

that,s why india has more than half of it,s troops along the border with pakistan????

There is a diff between immediate threats & long term threats.

To be prepared against a debilitating disease / ailment one has to be on guard against minor infections.

 

[Screaming Skull]

I am afraid many are not getting the point here. All that the author implies is that when confronted with multiple problems you have to prioritize your response based on which problem is causing more trouble. It is not about 'who is who's enemy number one'. It is about accepting that you have an equally bigger enemy in terrorism and your response should be as effective as it would be to India. Ignoring one at the expense of the other may be a big blunder.

We all accept that Pakistan is mighty effective in conventional war capabilities against any other military in the world. But, unfortunately the terrorists have a different approach than conventional militaries and it requires unconventional counter terrorism warfare techniques to eliminate the problem.

This is possible only when Pakistan acknowledges that the problem of terrorism is also huge if not as big as the Indian threat. So many terror attacks on both Pakistani and Indian soil could have been avoided if only we gave equal respect to our adversary that is terrorism.

Will Pakistan tolerate if India bombed any target within Pakistan? What would Pakistan's response be? Won't Pakistan do all that is there in its capacity to prevent a strike from India? Wont you strike back in such a scenario?

Why not the same response to the terrorists?

 

[BaburCM]

india should forget about becoming south asia,s sheriff.and stop destebalising pakistan to acieve its object

Don't worry bro. Times are changing fast and we will soon uncover the Indian terror activities against Pakistan. We are going to take them out one by one and smoke them out of their holes. They won't be getting away with their heinous terror plots against Pakistan.

 

[ajpirzada]

first of all we know that there is a proxy war goin on bw india and pakistan. today if world is only seein pakistan with their microscopic lens that doesnt make india a nice guy.

pakistan need proxies to keep india on her toes in kashmir while india need proxies to keep pakistan busy elsewhere so that kashmir remains away from international sight.

now mullen sayin that pakistan should not worry about india and not have a back up plan (contacts with talibans) is kind of immature. there have been two full scale wars bw india and pakistan over kashmir. seein this one would be foolish to not worry about indo pak border and leave it open. im not sayin that india will definately attack but for sure its too much of a risk. while contacts with talibans are also necessary given that US is no where close to winnin her war in afghanistan. if US leaves tomorrow and we dont have contacts with talibans, we ll become highly vulnerable to taliban threat knowin that our western border is highly porus. y will we be on their targets list? bec US used our bases to kill afghan children and bring down taliban.

also this threat which comes to pakistan is not from the proxies but from TTP which are the ppl who stood up against GoP after their ppl were killed in drone strikes. these drone strikes gave birth to baitullah mehsood and TTP chapter. when they started targetin pak army and GoP assets, they were joined by foreigners which included afghans and uzbeks. now God knows y did they join them and what were they gettin by targettin pakistan.

in my views
1: threat from eastern border cannot be ignored
2: contacts with talibans can only be cut after US gains some control over afghanistan and assures it will not install an indian centric gov lik it did before
3: threat to pakistan is not from proxies but from totally different group of ppl who got up to take their revenge and then were joined by criminals and foreigners comin from afghanistan and central asian state.

 

[ajpirzada]

now pakistan fighting the elements who are a threat to us. massive operation was carried out in bajur and else where in fata. this shows we are aware of the threat posed by these groups and are also taking steps. we cant open many fronts within our own country. we have to move in phases and thats wat we are doin. and if mullen or who so ever thinks we should take care of american interests while overlookin ours then they should either stop lyin to us or should go back to class 1.

 

[ajpirzada]

I am afraid many are not getting the point here. All that the author implies is that when confronted with multiple problems you have to prioritize your response based on which problem is causing more trouble. It is not about 'who is who's enemy number one'. It is about accepting that you have an equally bigger enemy in terrorism and your response should be as effective as it would be to India. Ignoring one at the expense of the other may be a big blunder.

We all accept that Pakistan is mighty effective in conventional war capabilities against any other military in the world. But, unfortunately the terrorists have a different approach than conventional militaries and it requires unconventional counter terrorism warfare techniques to eliminate the problem.

This is possible only when Pakistan acknowledges that the problem of terrorism is also huge if not as big as the Indian threat. So many terror attacks on both Pakistani and Indian soil could have been avoided if only we gave equal respect to our adversary that is terrorism.

Will Pakistan tolerate if India bombed any target within Pakistan? What would Pakistan's response be? Won't Pakistan do all that is there in its capacity to prevent a strike from India? Wont you strike back in such a scenario?

Why not the same response to the terrorists?

well i should tell u that many of our villages in fata are now only a pile of rubble

 

[Neo]

I suggest you guys visit this thread for more expert opinions of Mods and Think Tanks.

ISI DG - 'Terror Is Our Enemy, Not India'

Terrorism, extremism and talibanisation are major internal threats. Combine it with poverty and illitracy and you have ideal breading ground for further radicalisation of our biggest assett, our youth.

Unfortunately we also happen to have hostile neighbors like Afghanistan and India, both claiming parts of territory we consider to be integral part of Pakistan. So both are considered external threats. With Afghanistan kicked back to the stone ages, it will take several decennia for her to come back to some normalcy. Till then she's left to serve as proxy for the current and possibly future players.

This leaves India as our prime external threat and vice versa, eventhough most Indians naively but proudly consider China as their major enemy as if it is to add more weight to her raison d'etre.

 

[wtf]

and if mullen or who so ever thinks we should take care of american interests while overlookin ours then they should either stop lyin to us or should go back to class 1.

I think his point is that Pak, US and Indian interests in this case are exactly aligned - Fight terror wherever it is.

I saw that as the general point of the article. We don't need to waste time ranking enemies while we all have urgent and dangerous threat facing us. All the three countries together have surrounded the terrorists, but since we are in a circle around them, each of us sees the other as "behind" the terrorists.
US can't move into Pakistan, Pakistan can't attack camps in Afghanistan and India can't attack camps in Pak-border (and Pakistan won't be happy with Indian troops in Afghanistan). 3 way stalemate. Meanwhile Afghans and Pakistani people continue to lose life to terror attacks. (And to some extent India and US).

 

[Neo]

India does consider Pak to be an enemy but not its principal enemy.

Not that one is trying to imply that Pak will be a push over if it ever comes to a crunch but there are other contenders for the top slot.

I beg to defer, specially since India's foreign and regional policies are designed to isolate Pakistan and she's always been very vocal about any military sales to her smaller neighbor.
One wonders why she's never tried to block Russian military sales to China, eventhough she considers Beijing to be the prime enemy.

 

[TOPGUN]

Both counties are a threat to each other with big toys they both call each other there enemys but & this is true to some degree but right now the new enemy are these damn terriost and both countires should work toward peace and friendship and fight wot and help each other!

 

[notsuperstitious]

I beg to defer, specially since India's foreign and regional policies are designed to isolate Pakistan and she's always been very vocal about any military sales to her smaller neighbor.
One wonders why she's never tried to block Russian military sales to China, eventhough she considers Beijing to be the prime enemy.

I think china is india's principle adversary.

Pakistan is india's biggest threat.

And stupidity is india's biggest enemy.

 

[Neo]

There is a diff between immediate threats & long term threats.

To be prepared against a debilitating disease / ailment one has to be on guard against minor infections.

If immidiate threats are not countered properly the lessor would cease to exist. Therefor its in the interest of the lessor to keep the status quo as it is and not feel intimated, keep the defence programme up and running and move along. Thats exactly what Pakistan did after the Delhi Parliament attack and what she's doing now. Despite having a front open at the western boundries, we still have plenty to send to the eastern borders to keep the enemy behind the lines.
Massive deployment by India (700.000-1.000.000 forces at peak) only reflects the weight she puts in it.

You talk about "minor infections" Well what country would deploy 80% of her forces against an a much smaller adversary and still deny that she's regarded a prime enemy?