Pakistan steps up military aid to Ukraine

[Goenitz]

PA shd have removed the details/markings from the shells, at least..

 

[Tornado23]

Earlier you guys have supplied artillery shells to Ukraine. That pretty much sums it up
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They were used to take out an Indian supplied T90S tank being operated by the Russians in Ukraine. Just saying

 

[313ghazi]

I wonder why is Pak doing that, Ukraine is not going to win or be in a position to kick the Russkies out.

War is a great opportunity to make money.

 

[walterbibikow]

Indian supplied T90S tank being operated by the Russians in Ukraine. Just saying

Source: Trust me bro

 

[Signalian]

PA shd have removed the details/markings from the shells, at least..

A few moves ahead in chess.

The use of biological/chemical/nuclear weapon supplied from Pakistan because the label said so.

 

[doorstar]

Source: Trust me bro

click >here< ironstien

 

[Signalian]

Source: Trust me bro

Similar.

Since video shows 122mm Ammo with label so making next story is easy as pathway of supply of weapons already established, so now whether its MLRS or any other weapon type, if caliber is same, must be Pakistan.

 

[Tornado23]

Source: Trust me bro

click >here< ironstien

Oh no no no it is real. There was a video on this forum somewhere. I will try to find it

 

[waz]

It's been going on since the war started. Pakistan and Ukraine have old solid ties and of course they will be helped. The US, UK and NATO allies have stressed this to Pakistan to keep them going. The ones in charge of Pakistan's policy should be extracting maximum leverage from the US and NATO, but again the nation is led by people out for their own interests.
This is far more about geo politics rather than simply making money out of war.

 

[doorstar]

It's been going on since the war started. Pakistan and Ukraine have old solid ties and of course they will be helped. The US, UK and NATO allies have stressed this to Pakistan to keep them going. The ones in charge of Pakistan's policy should be extracting maximum leverage from the US and NATO, but again the nation is led by people out for their own interests.
This is far more about geo politics rather than simply making money out of war.

agreed with all cept for the now grayed out sentence

 

[Dalit]

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Pakistan has reportedly stepped up military supplies to Ukraine via a German port, simultaneously with the Poland route, to transfer rockets for use in multi-barrel rocket launchers, said people familiar with the matter.

Supplies of rockets were dispatched from the Karachi Port earlier this month and will enter Ukraine via Emden Port in Germany, said the people. More than 10,000 rockets meant for use in Grad multi-barrel rocket launchers have been shipped, they said.

Although Pakistan has been pleading with Russia for discounted oil amid its economic crisis, it has been supplying arms to Ukraine on a regular basis, said one of the persons, who did not wish to be identified.

ET was the first to report that Pakistan had stepped up ammunition and other defence supplies via third countries that border Ukraine. Karachi-based shipping firm Project Shipping last month facilitated supplies of 146 containers from Pakistan Ordnance Factories, ET had reported. Last month, yet another shipment of 50,000 defence stores was reportedly sent by Pakistan Ordnance Factories via Karachi. The shipments from Pakistan are reportedly being transferred to Ukraine through Poland's Gdansk Port, ET had reported.
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Defence firms located in some eastern European states bordering Ukraine have emerged as a gateway for transferring Pakistan-manufactured military equipment, ET had reported. Islamabad-based arms supplier DMI Associates is working in collaboration with defence firms in eastern Europe for transferring orders placed by the Ukrainian military. In return, Ukraine promised Pakistan assistance to upgrade its Mi-17 helicopters. A Ukrainian firm involved with manufacturing of aircraft engines as well as industrial marine gas turbines is reportedly assisting in upgradation of Pakistan helicopters, according to people familiar with the matter, ET had earlier reported.

Last year, Pakistan played a critical role in transfer of arms on behalf of the UK to Ukraine. ET had then reported that the Nur Khan air base in Rawalpindi was part of the air bridge used by the UK for military aircraft flights to Avram Iancu Cluj International Airport in Romania via a British air base in the Mediterranean to transfer arms to Ukraine. The air bridge had avoided Iran and Afghanistan airspace and reportedly used the West Asian air space to transfer arms between August 6 and 15. A Globemaster plane was used to transfer the arms. A British Air Force C-17A Globemaster III (call sign: ZZ173) is also said to have been used for daily sorties between the aforementioned period using the Pakistan air bridge, ET had reported in September 2022.

Artillery ammunition for the Ukrainian army may have been ferried via this air bridge.

Ukraine and Pakistan share close military and industrial ties. Pakistan had purchased more than 320 Ukrainian T-80UD tanks in service with a fully formed ecosystem for their upkeep, use, ammunition and spare parts. Between 1991 and 2020, Ukraine and Pakistan concluded arms contracts worth nearly $1.6 billion. Pakistan has reportedly clinched a deal with Ukraine for the repair of its T-80UD fleet at a cost of $85.6 million.

In 2021, Pakistan and Ukraine agreed to optimise military ties, particularly in defence production, training, counterterrorism activities and intelligence domains, ET had earlier reported.

Pakistan to supply arms to Ukraine via German port now

Supplies of rockets were dispatched from the Karachi Port earlier this month and will enter Ukraine via Emden Port in Germany, said the people. More than 10,000 rockets meant for use in Grad multi-barrel rocket launchers have been shipped, they said. Although Pakistan has been pleading with...

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Everything must go through Britain and USA.

 

[Dalit]

It's been going on since the war started. Pakistan and Ukraine have old solid ties and of course they will be helped. The US, UK and NATO allies have stressed this to Pakistan to keep them going. The ones in charge of Pakistan's policy should be extracting maximum leverage from the US and NATO, but again the nation is led by people out for their own interests.
This is far more about geo politics rather than simply making money out of war.

I respect you a great deal. I will share my opinion.

It is a bad decision in my opinion. Ever since Pakistan started to patch up with Russia during PTI rule, the Western powers looked very uneasy. When Imran Khan made a visit to Moscow the European and US diplomats in Pakistan wrote a letter to the government to register their protest. Somehow the Western powers are staunchly opposed to Pakistan Russia relations improving. The Western nations don't hide their disapproval under a rug.

Pakistan doesn't need to become a hubby of Russia, but it should try to have stable relations because Russia is first and foremost a considerable regional player. It has oil and gas. It has weapons. It has certain industrial skill sets. India isn't crazy when it chooses to keep it's Russian ties intact. Despite Western powers being the overwhelming sponsors and supporters of India. India is today reaping benefits because Western powers see it as a counterbalance against China. The Western powers have consequently supported India in an unprecedented manner. Yet, India chooses to look Western powers straight in the eye and tell them that breaking relations with Russia is a non-starter. We all know why.

Pakistan has a lot to gain by having normal and cordial relations with Russia. Firstly, cheaper gas and oil are an obvious benefit. Russia has already shown willingness to provide Pakistan crucial hardware such as engines. This reveals that Russia has the goodwill to further improve military to military relations. There are plenty of other areas where Pakistan and Russia can cooperate.

Many pro-US elements on this forum will try to present the case that this is simply about money. It isn't. Pakistan is appeasing Western powers. Clearly, the Western powers seek Pakistani support for Ukraine. Imran Khan was removed because he wanted an independent foreign policy which includes patching up with regional powers like Russia. The Western powers oppose such a move.

Russia has historical relations with India. Russia won't stop these relations. That shouldn't deter Pakistan from patching up with Russia. Let me give you the example of the USA which is much deeper in bed with India. India receives just about everything from the US including military hardware that can be used against Pakistan. Is Pakistan willing to break relations with the US due to the latter's unprecedented support for India?

 

[PradoTLC]

I respect you a great deal. I will share my opinion.

It is a bad decision in my opinion. Ever since Pakistan started to patch up with Russia during PTI rule, the Western powers looked very uneasy. When Imran Khan made a visit to Moscow the European and US diplomats in Pakistan wrote a letter to the government to register their protest. Somehow the Western powers are staunchly opposed to Pakistan Russia relations improving. The Western nations don't hide their disapproval under a rug.

Pakistan doesn't need to become a hubby of Russia, but it should try to have stable relations because Russia is first and foremost a considerable regional player. It has oil and gas. It has weapons. It has certain industrial skill sets. India isn't crazy when ot chooses to keep it's Russian ties intact. Despite Western powers being the overwhelming sponsors and supporters of India.

Pakistan has a lot to gain by having normal and cordial relations with Russia. Firstly, cheaper gas and oil are an obvious benefit. Russia has already shown willingness to provide Pakistan crucial hardware such as engines. This reveals that Russia has the intention to further improve military to military relations. There are plenty of other areas where Pakistan and Russia can cooperate.

Many pro-US elements on this forum will try to present the case that this is simply about money. It isn't. Pakistan is appeasing Western powers. Clearly, the Western powers seek Pakistani support for Ukraine. Imran Khan was removed because he wanted an independent foreign policy which includes patching up with regional powers like Russia.

Russia has historical relations with India. Russia won't stop these relations. That shouldn't deter Pakistan from patching up with Russia. Let me give you the example of the USA which is much deeper in bed with India. Is Pakistan willing to break relations with the US due to the latter's support for India?

All good points


pity the clowns in pindi can’t critically analyze

 

[Dalit]

All good points


pity the clowns in pindi can’t critically analyze

The clowns in Pindi are remnants of the British Raj era. Their forefathers were put in charge to control and serve. Today their children are fulfilling their duty with utmost loyalty.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Billu Rani was specifically warned for this in Moscow two weeks back that is why Pakistan didn't opted for Afghan meeting in Russia because imported govt was not welcomed.