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Pakistan steps up military aid to Ukraine

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Its all right as long as we're not officially selling to a warring party on paper and as long as we are not cutting on profits. Our official buyers be it UK, Germany or Poland send them to whoever is not our concern as long as these weapons are not used against us, our allies or civilians.
 
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I wonder why is Pak doing that, Ukraine is not going to win or be in a position to kick the Russkies out.
Lol..
Kiddo how old are you.

There is war and profit has to be made..plots needs to be bought..
It's either purely for the self interest of a few select ppl at the top...with bribes/kickbacks involved.
...or it's the price of an IMF bailout...basically u can't say no to ur big daddy or else there will be consequences.

Either way ..a sad state of affairs.
 
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The fact China is supporting Russia and probably supplying them arms and Pak is in opposite fence I wonder if there is a small rift in China Pak relations.
China is also selling Russian oil to Europe who are in turn sending weapons to be used against Ukraine. This is 21st century Mr. Nothing is black and white anymore, everything is in grey area
 
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Russia should learn lessons from history & stop engaging with Pakistan, a country which has betrayed it since 90s. From fielding Taliban to helping Ukraine against Russia.


Yeah we've the money to buy from wherever we feel the need to do so. We're not like Pakistanis who'll sell their women for few dollars💲 :woot::devil:
Now putin will make dumba biryani out of pakistans ***. You guys love to play with the fire 🔥 now get ready to face the music
Considering how the Soviets supported India since the 60s and has been supporting them ever since, alongside the KGBs involvement in Bangladesh, Balochistan and their war/genocide in Afghanistan against the pro Islam Mujaihdeen/populace and then with the continued support Russia has given India, I don't see why Pakistan would consider itself an ally of Russia as it does an Ally of Ukraine...

Your knowledge is really bad walterbibikow/lava820/punch2000.

Like extremely bad.

Also you having the money means you can have affairs? Oof naughty naughty, you aren't very loyal are you?

Also what is Russia going to do? They know business is business. And considering how this is a HT post, its most likely full of shit anyways
 
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Also what is Russia going to do?

Russia sold Mi-35P Hind attack and MI-17 Hip utility helicopters to Pakistan. The parts for the IL-78 comes from Russia. Pakistan also directly acquired the Klimov RD-93 turbofans for its JF-17 fighters from Russia. No Russia no JF-17 engine parts. How will Pakistan fly JF-17 with no spares coming from Russia?
 
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Russia sold Mi-35P Hind attack and MI-17 Hip utility helicopters to Pakistan. The parts for the IL-78 comes from Russia. Pakistan also directly acquired the Klimov RD-93 turbofans for its JF-17 fighters from Russia. No Russia no JF-17 engine parts. How will Pakistan fly JF-17 with no spares coming from Russia?
RD93 were sourced via China, not directly through Russia. Mil Mi35 are operated in small numbers with no intention to acquire anymore. IL78 came through Ukraine and 1 or 2 were upgraded just before the war started by Ukraine.

The only reasonable thing you have is the MIL MI17V5 and that's it.
 
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Eh. Business is business.

You guys are in bed the Russians but are currently trying to have an affair with the Americans. What can I say? You do what you need to do.

The challenge for you to comprehend the global situation begins at that point.

In recent years, India built its own bed and no longer shares a bed with anyone, unlike Pakistan, which still need this because it is unable to stand independently after 75 years of freedom.

We also have sofa sets where we can host international guests and maintain a good relationship with everyone
 
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Oh for fucks sake. I just read 3 seconds of it and immediately knew it was bullshit

More recently, most of the JF-17 fleet has been grounded for lack of spare parts for the RD-93 engine, Hindustan Times reported August 23.
Pakistan's four Chinese-made F-22P frigates "are giving nightmares to Pakistani Navy officers and men tasked to keep them afloat in the turbulent waters of the Arabian Sea and the Indian Ocean", according to a June 14 report by Geopolitica.info, an Italian think-tank.


They literally used a fake news source (HT) for the Jf17 and the Italian news source was a decade too late. The problems with the F22P were rectified and later sorted out.


Try better IT cell
 
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I wonder where is all the money made from selling arms are going as forex reserves are continously being depleted and Export numbers are also on downward trend.
 
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Oh for fucks sake. I just read 3 seconds of it and immediately knew it was bullshit

More recently, most of the JF-17 fleet has been grounded for lack of spare parts for the RD-93 engine, Hindustan Times reported August 23.
Pakistan's four Chinese-made F-22P frigates "are giving nightmares to Pakistani Navy officers and men tasked to keep them afloat in the turbulent waters of the Arabian Sea and the Indian Ocean", according to a June 14 report by Geopolitica.info, an Italian think-tank.


They literally used a fake news source (HT) for the Jf17 and the Italian news source was a decade too late. The problems with the F22P were rectified and later sorted out.


Try better IT cell
read this https://defence.pk/pdf/posts/14217836
 
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Pakistan has reportedly stepped up military supplies to Ukraine via a German port, simultaneously with the Poland route, to transfer rockets for use in multi-barrel rocket launchers, said people familiar with the matter.

Supplies of rockets were dispatched from the Karachi Port earlier this month and will enter Ukraine via Emden Port in Germany, said the people. More than 10,000 rockets meant for use in Grad multi-barrel rocket launchers have been shipped, they said.

Although Pakistan has been pleading with Russia for discounted oil amid its economic crisis, it has been supplying arms to Ukraine on a regular basis, said one of the persons, who did not wish to be identified.

ET was the first to report that Pakistan had stepped up ammunition and other defence supplies via third countries that border Ukraine. Karachi-based shipping firm Project Shipping last month facilitated supplies of 146 containers from Pakistan Ordnance Factories, ET had reported. Last month, yet another shipment of 50,000 defence stores was reportedly sent by Pakistan Ordnance Factories via Karachi. The shipments from Pakistan are reportedly being transferred to Ukraine through Poland's Gdansk Port, ET had reported.
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Defence firms located in some eastern European states bordering Ukraine have emerged as a gateway for transferring Pakistan-manufactured military equipment, ET had reported. Islamabad-based arms supplier DMI Associates is working in collaboration with defence firms in eastern Europe for transferring orders placed by the Ukrainian military. In return, Ukraine promised Pakistan assistance to upgrade its Mi-17 helicopters. A Ukrainian firm involved with manufacturing of aircraft engines as well as industrial marine gas turbines is reportedly assisting in upgradation of Pakistan helicopters, according to people familiar with the matter, ET had earlier reported.

Last year, Pakistan played a critical role in transfer of arms on behalf of the UK to Ukraine. ET had then reported that the Nur Khan air base in Rawalpindi was part of the air bridge used by the UK for military aircraft flights to Avram Iancu Cluj International Airport in Romania via a British air base in the Mediterranean to transfer arms to Ukraine. The air bridge had avoided Iran and Afghanistan airspace and reportedly used the West Asian air space to transfer arms between August 6 and 15. A Globemaster plane was used to transfer the arms. A British Air Force C-17A Globemaster III (call sign: ZZ173) is also said to have been used for daily sorties between the aforementioned period using the Pakistan air bridge, ET had reported in September 2022.

Artillery ammunition for the Ukrainian army may have been ferried via this air bridge.

Ukraine and Pakistan share close military and industrial ties. Pakistan had purchased more than 320 Ukrainian T-80UD tanks in service with a fully formed ecosystem for their upkeep, use, ammunition and spare parts. Between 1991 and 2020, Ukraine and Pakistan concluded arms contracts worth nearly $1.6 billion. Pakistan has reportedly clinched a deal with Ukraine for the repair of its T-80UD fleet at a cost of $85.6 million.

In 2021, Pakistan and Ukraine agreed to optimise military ties, particularly in defence production, training, counterterrorism activities and intelligence domains, ET had earlier reported.
By Dipanjan Roy Chaudhury , Economic Times Bureau.
 
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By Dipanjan Roy Chaudhury , Economic Times Bureau.
Earlier you guys have supplied artillery shells to Ukraine. That pretty much sums it up
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