Pakistan shows interest in Russia’s Yak-130 trainer aircraft

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Pakistan shows interest in Russia’s Yak-130 trainer aircraft

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Pakistan could become the fourth country to operate the Yak-130 combat trainer aircraft as Islamabad has expressed an interest in the aircraft, an online news outlet reported on Tuesday.

The new outlet claimed that the parties had already held preliminary talks. Quoting industry sources, the news outlet claimed that Pakistan Air Force officials had been talking to executives from Rosoboronexport and Irkut.

According to the report, the Pakistani side has evaluated the flight performance of the Yak-130 and noted its “unique feature of mimicking the flying characteristics of a number of fighter aircraft such as the F-16 and JF-17, which would make the task of transitioning from a trainer to a fighter a lot easy for pilots.”

The Yak-130 is designed for training flying school cadets in piloting skills and combat engagements against ground and air targets specific to fourth and fifth-generation aircraft.

For a training flight, the aircraft can be programmed to suit different weather conditions and take into account the specific type of aircraft for which the pilot is trained – from the Russian Su-30 to the US F-35 and the French Rafale.

Pakistan’s acquisition of the Yak-130 would be the second purchase the country has made of Russian aircraft. In 2014, Russia lifted its arms embargo against Pakistan and a contract for the supply of four Mi-35M transport and attack helicopters was concluded.

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/201...interest-in-russias-yak-130-trainer-aircraft/
پاکستان کا روسی یاک - 130تربیتی بمبار طیاروں کی خریداری میں دلچسپی کا اظہار
ماسکو (آئی این پی/قدرت ڈیلی)پاکستان کا روسی یاک - 130تربیتی بمبار طیارے کی خریداری میں دلچسپی کا اظہار، یاک- 130طیارہ خصوصی طور پر فلائنگ سکول کے کیڈٹس کوماہر پائلٹ بنانے اور انہیں چوتھی اور پانچویں جنریشن کے طیاروں کے بارے میں مکمل تربیت فراہم کرنے کیلئے ڈیزائن کیا گیا ہے،پاکستان اس طیارے کو خریدنے والا دوسرا ملک بن جائے گا۔ منگل کو ایک غیر ملکی خبر رساں ادارے نے دعویٰ کیا ہے کہ پاکستان نے یاک- 130 طیارے کی خریداری میں دلچسپی کا اظہار کیا ہے اس حوالے سے فریقین میں ابتدائی بات چیت ہو چکی ہے۔ روسی صنعتی ذرائع کے مطابق پاکستانی ایئرفورس کے حکام طیارے کے حوالے سے ’’روسوبورونیکسپورٹ‘‘ اور ’’ارکت‘‘ کمپنیوں سے مذاکرات کر رہے ہیں۔ رپورٹ کے مطابق پاکستان نے طیارے کی کارکردگی اور صلاحیتوں کے بارے میں معلومات حاصل کی ہیں اور یاک- 130 طیارے کی دیگر بمبار طیاروں ایف 16 اورجے ایف 17تھنڈر جیسی خصوصیات کے حامل ہونے کا اعتراف کیا ہے۔ ذرائع کے مطابق یاک- 130 طیارہ خصوصی طور پر فلائنگ سکول کے کیڈٹس کو ماہر پائلٹ بنانے اور انہیں چوتھی اور پانچویں جنریشن کے طیاروں کے بارے میں مکمل تربیت فراہم کرنے کیلئے ڈیزائن کیا گیا ہے۔ طیارے میں تربیتی پرواز کے دوران مختلف موسمی حالات اور لاتعداد جنگی طیاروں کے متشابیہ پرواز کرنے کی صلاحیت بھی ہے۔ ذرائع کے مطابق پاکستان اس روسی طیارے کو خریدنے والا دوسرا ملک بن جائے گا۔ واضح رہے کہ2014 میں روس نے پاکستان کے ساتھ ہتھیاروں کی خریدو فروخت پر پابندی ختم کرنے کا فیصلہ کیاتھا جس کے بعد روس نے چار Mi-35m ٹرانسپورٹ اور حملہ آور جنگی ہیلی کاپٹرز پاکستان کو دینے کا معاہدہ کیا تھا۔

پاکستان کا روسی یاک - 130تربیتی بمبار طیاروں کی خریداری میں دلچسپی کا اظہار - Duran

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Chalo bhai ab Yak-130 ... T-50 from South Korea.. phr Yak-130 phr T-50 ab phr Yak-130

Krlo select

 

[Kakaspai]

Chalo bhai ab Yak-130 ... T-50 from South Korea.. phr Yak-130 phr T-50 ab phr Yak-130

Krlo select

in the end we will get jf 17 b

 

[Quwa]

Here is what's going to happen.

We'll all come under the belief that PAF has a LIFT requirement and is evaluating T-50 against Yak-130. Some old senior member or random new member wanting to impress us with his realism will say, "no, PAF will stick to twin seat JF-17."

And then 1 year from now we'll see PAF make an order for something completely random and questionable, like FTC-2000.

3. 2. 1. Go.

 

[Bratva]

Here is what's going to happen.

We'll all come under the belief that PAF has a LIFT requirement and is evaluating T-50 against Yak-130. Some old senior member or random new member wanting to impress us with his realism will say, "no, PAF will stick to twin seat JF-17."

And then 1 year from now we'll see PAF make an order for something completely random and questionable, like FTC-2000.

3. 2. 1. Go.

Can't believe it is the same PAF who were saying last year they dont need two seater JF-17.

Chalo bhai ab Yak-130 ... T-50 from South Korea.. phr Yak-130 phr T-50 ab phr Yak-130

Krlo select

Yak nay Yaki lagaa dayni akhir may

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Can't believe it is the same PAF who were saying last year they dont need two seater JF-17.



Yak nay Yaki lagaa dayni akhir may

Lagta yehi hai pata chale aakhir me T-50 Trainer select krlia hai

 

[pkd]

Any good trainer would be within the price tag of JF-17 Block I, why not use them as trainers and Block II & III(when they become available) for combat duties. At least this will do away with the need of the entire infrastructure required for a new platform.

 

[danger007]

ye dil maange more.. a haa...

 

[Paksanity]

Can't believe it is the same PAF who were saying last year they dont need two seater JF-17.



Yak nay Yaki lagaa dayni akhir may

Actually there is a need for LIFT class trainer in PAF and dual seat JF-17 isn't going to cut it for few reasons. PAF is likely looking to streamline its flight training, make it more efficient by reducing number of trainers, reduction in flight hours and time and financially economical. T-50 and JF17B (dual seat JF17) are light fighter class with after burning engines and real avionics which translates into more operating costs and more on ground time. It sure can be used as a fully capable fighter if time demands. On the other hand Yak-130, M-346 are different class. They have non-after burning engines, programmable fly by wire controls and training datalinks. You don't have to install real avionics (like Radar, targetting pods, datalinks, PGMs etc) Yet aircraft will give everything to the trainee pilot as if he/ she is really operating those gadgets and weapons. This is a big plus. It cuts your cost on maintaining these features which costs tens of millions of dollars every year. There is another big plus. You can cut one step in your pilot's training because of programmable fly by wire controls. For fresh rookie pilots, aircraft will behave as low performing slow aircraft. As they gain experience, same aircraft can now be reprogrammed to behave as high performing jet like F-16. Similarly you can train pilots to fire BVRs, Anti-ship missiles, drop LGBs without actually carrying any of it physically. Not even the Radar. Pilot's can also train in air-to-air refuelling, NVG operations and all. What all this means is pilot's train quicker, better and are prepared for their high performance jets, all at reduced cost to Air Force budget. JF-17 and T-50 can't do that.

There is added advantage of long endurance and range. M-346 has 4 hours endurance with drop tanks (2.75 hrs clean) and can operate upto 2500km out. All because of more efficient non-after burning engines which consume less fuel and are much easy on maintenance.

There is downside too, however. They can't match speeds of proper fighters and can't fly as high too. They can be used in light attack/ CAS role but not in Air Superiority role. JF-17 and T/ FA -50 can. So there is definitely a trade off and probably PAF is weighing its options. Let's see.

P.S. My personal favourite is M-346 for its better speed and improved, more reputable sub-systems.

 

[IHK_PK]

My vote is still for JF-17B.

 

[My-Analogous]

Pakistan shows interest in Russia’s Yak-130 trainer aircraft

• National
  
• News

11 MINS AGO BY INP

Pakistan could become the fourth country to operate the Yak-130 combat trainer aircraft as Islamabad has expressed an interest in the aircraft, an online news outlet reported on Tuesday.

The new outlet claimed that the parties had already held preliminary talks. Quoting industry sources, the news outlet claimed that Pakistan Air Force officials had been talking to executives from Rosoboronexport and Irkut.

According to the report, the Pakistani side has evaluated the flight performance of the Yak-130 and noted its “unique feature of mimicking the flying characteristics of a number of fighter aircraft such as the F-16 and JF-17, which would make the task of transitioning from a trainer to a fighter a lot easy for pilots.”

The Yak-130 is designed for training flying school cadets in piloting skills and combat engagements against ground and air targets specific to fourth and fifth-generation aircraft.

For a training flight, the aircraft can be programmed to suit different weather conditions and take into account the specific type of aircraft for which the pilot is trained – from the Russian Su-30 to the US F-35 and the French Rafale.

Pakistan’s acquisition of the Yak-130 would be the second purchase the country has made of Russian aircraft. In 2014, Russia lifted its arms embargo against Pakistan and a contract for the supply of four Mi-35M transport and attack helicopters was concluded.

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/201...interest-in-russias-yak-130-trainer-aircraft/
پاکستان کا روسی یاک - 130تربیتی بمبار طیاروں کی خریداری میں دلچسپی کا اظہار
ماسکو (آئی این پی/قدرت ڈیلی)پاکستان کا روسی یاک - 130تربیتی بمبار طیارے کی خریداری میں دلچسپی کا اظہار، یاک- 130طیارہ خصوصی طور پر فلائنگ سکول کے کیڈٹس کوماہر پائلٹ بنانے اور انہیں چوتھی اور پانچویں جنریشن کے طیاروں کے بارے میں مکمل تربیت فراہم کرنے کیلئے ڈیزائن کیا گیا ہے،پاکستان اس طیارے کو خریدنے والا دوسرا ملک بن جائے گا۔ منگل کو ایک غیر ملکی خبر رساں ادارے نے دعویٰ کیا ہے کہ پاکستان نے یاک- 130 طیارے کی خریداری میں دلچسپی کا اظہار کیا ہے اس حوالے سے فریقین میں ابتدائی بات چیت ہو چکی ہے۔ روسی صنعتی ذرائع کے مطابق پاکستانی ایئرفورس کے حکام طیارے کے حوالے سے ’’روسوبورونیکسپورٹ‘‘ اور ’’ارکت‘‘ کمپنیوں سے مذاکرات کر رہے ہیں۔ رپورٹ کے مطابق پاکستان نے طیارے کی کارکردگی اور صلاحیتوں کے بارے میں معلومات حاصل کی ہیں اور یاک- 130 طیارے کی دیگر بمبار طیاروں ایف 16 اورجے ایف 17تھنڈر جیسی خصوصیات کے حامل ہونے کا اعتراف کیا ہے۔ ذرائع کے مطابق یاک- 130 طیارہ خصوصی طور پر فلائنگ سکول کے کیڈٹس کو ماہر پائلٹ بنانے اور انہیں چوتھی اور پانچویں جنریشن کے طیاروں کے بارے میں مکمل تربیت فراہم کرنے کیلئے ڈیزائن کیا گیا ہے۔ طیارے میں تربیتی پرواز کے دوران مختلف موسمی حالات اور لاتعداد جنگی طیاروں کے متشابیہ پرواز کرنے کی صلاحیت بھی ہے۔ ذرائع کے مطابق پاکستان اس روسی طیارے کو خریدنے والا دوسرا ملک بن جائے گا۔ واضح رہے کہ2014 میں روس نے پاکستان کے ساتھ ہتھیاروں کی خریدو فروخت پر پابندی ختم کرنے کا فیصلہ کیاتھا جس کے بعد روس نے چار Mi-35m ٹرانسپورٹ اور حملہ آور جنگی ہیلی کاپٹرز پاکستان کو دینے کا معاہدہ کیا تھا۔

پاکستان کا روسی یاک - 130تربیتی بمبار طیاروں کی خریداری میں دلچسپی کا اظہار - Duran

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[rockstar08]

Sometimes i think that PAF is on Indian side .. they give strong reasons for Indians to troll us ..

 

[IHK_PK]

Heheeeehhee. Yeah sometimes.

 

[Manindra]

Sometimes i think that PAF is on Indian side .. they give strong reasons for Indians to troll us ..

Hey , they are just returning favours as IA & IAF also give many chances to you

 

[rockstar08]

Hey , they are just returning favours as IA & IAF also give many chances to you

LOL yes , and people say we are enemies ..