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"‘Pakistan should up the ante on Kashmir"

SORRY, THERE WERE only 2 options on UN resolutions

That is the confusion with Pakistan. It says it is supporting the 'freedom fighters' but not ready to give freedom to Kashmir but to get them into Pakistan. If there is only 2 options in front of Kashmiris, they will opt for India not Pakistan. Coz numerous surveys project indicate the same.
 
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It is unfortunate that Zia created the Mujahideens and indoctrinated them with religion.

Then these chaps became unemployed once USSR was defeated.

And now they are running wild all over.

Frankenstein!

What Zia did, now we have no concern but we have concern to take back our integral part and Pakistan must do everything to achieve its goal, help to Kashmiris morally & diplomatically is in top priorities of Pakistan and Pakistani people.
 
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What Zia did, now we have no concern but we have concern to take back our integral part and Pakistan must do everything to achieve its goal, help to Kashmiris morally & diplomatically is in top priorities of Pakistan and Pakistani people.

what zia and successors done is what gone out of control and concerning you the most..
 
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What Zia did, now we have no concern but we have concern to take back our integral part and Pakistan must do everything to achieve its goal, help to Kashmiris morally & diplomatically is in top priorities of Pakistan and Pakistani people.

You are entitled to your opinions of course!
About the underlined part:
But what Zia did does undeniably affect you (i.e Pakistan and its people) to a tremendous extent. The effect of Zia's acts have permeated the most important parts of Pakistan's Polity and most of all the Army, which is arguably Pakistan's most important institution. As is said; Zia is dead and gone, but "Zia's children" are still around. In the Army for example at the level of Maj. Gen. (Div. Cdrs.). Over the years, an effort has been made to clean "the augean stables" including by the present COAS (sadly unappreciated for this effort). But the operation is far from complete. Therefore the effects of that fact will be felt first and most by Pakistanis before anybody else.

Now about the bolded part: you and most of you compatriots may feel that way, which is understandable. But over the years, both interest and support for your stand (world-wide) has waned to a studied near-indifference. Can you think of the reason why?
Does Zia and his legacy have something to do with it? Is Pakistan's international image such that the world will rally around to your POV in the J & K matter?
Think!
 
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What Zia did, now we have no concern but we have concern to take back our integral part and Pakistan must do everything to achieve its goal, help to Kashmiris morally & diplomatically is in top priorities of Pakistan and Pakistani people.

Are you sure that is your top priority right now?
 
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What Zia did, now we have no concern but we have concern to take back our integral part and Pakistan must do everything to achieve its goal, help to Kashmiris morally & diplomatically is in top priorities of Pakistan and Pakistani people.
This itself is your problem
Your priorities are all skewed... just can't think straight, when it comes to Kashmir.

Have lit their own country on fire by using terrorist organisations as their strategic assets in their neighborhood and now they languish from its after effects as pets have turned against their former masters.

Pakistan has already lost half of it country in its quest to claim Kashmir..the other half dangles on a thread...will its Kashmir obsession be the undoing of Pakistan?
 
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Pakistan may have lost half of itself in its bid to liberate Kashmir, but in the end its worth it. That half is still Muslim territory, and time for India is tocking in my beloved Kasheer[Kashmir] which will soon taste freedom for the first time in centuries, inshaallah.
 
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The ‘freedom struggle in occupied Kashmir’ is fast reaching its objective and it is time Pakistan intervenes more forcefully and initiates a global diplomatic and media campaign to expose the Indian ‘barbarity and oppression’, a Pakistani newspaper said Sunday.

‘The freedom movement in occupied Kashmir has reached its final stage. It is time Pakistan helps the oppressed Kashmiri people with diplomatic and moral support as well as guidance. Kashmir is the ‘shah-e-rag’ (jugular vein) of Pakistan and it is the time and it is liberated,’ an editorial in the Nawa-i-Waqt said.

Warmongering? Isn't the Nation and Nawa-i-waqt published by same people? lol If Pakistan wants to start a war over Kashmir and initiates a global diplomatic and media campaign they are most welcome. It will do little or no hurt to India but more to Pakistan.

It said full use must be made of platforms such as the Organisation of Islamic Conference (OIC). ‘The OIC secretary general made a general statement of support for the Kashmiri people but it was weak and did not have much effect.’

:lol: None of them has the guts to talk about Kashmir with India.
 
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We are doing a good job protecting the Indians living in our Kashmir province from the cowardly uncivilized Taliban.

They have tormented them for centuries, no more.

Last time they tried after the USSR withdrawal from Afghanistan. The IA kicked their arse so hard, they never dared come back.

Let them go back to Afghanistan or wherever, Kashmir is off limits to these cowardly Talibunnies.
 
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What Zia did, now we have no concern but we have concern to take back our integral part and Pakistan must do everything to achieve its goal, help to Kashmiris morally & diplomatically is in top priorities of Pakistan and Pakistani people.

On the contrary, what Zia did was the third nail in the coffin for Pakistan, and you should concern yourselves about it urgently, rather than brushing it aside.

As for Kashmir, I would be genuinely sad if you go back to the monkey tricks that Musharraf tried, or were tried in 65, and which seems to be a favourite myth of the Pakistani deep establishment: that if it stands in the middle of the road and wiggles its hips long enough, Kashmir will fall for the sex appeal. These tactics damage you more than India; have done, will do.

You need to be realistic. Just take a look in the mirror. Think about who in their right minds would like to join your country at this moment.
 
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On the contrary, what Zia did was the third nail in the coffin for Pakistan, and you should concern yourselves about it urgently, rather than brushing it aside.

As for Kashmir, I would be genuinely sad if you go back to the monkey tricks that Musharraf tried, or were tried in 65, and which seems to be a favourite myth of the Pakistani deep establishment: that if it stands in the middle of the road and wiggles its hips long enough, Kashmir will fall for the sex appeal. These tactics damage you more than India; have done, will do.

You need to be realistic. Just take a look in the mirror. Think about who in their right minds would like to join your country at this moment.

I heard one of their analysts say recently that Pakistan can cause pin pricks to India, not real pain.

However, India can cause some real pain if it wants to.

A belated but welcome realization. At least some have started understanding what is what.
 
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I heard one of their analysts say recently that Pakistan can cause pin pricks to India, not real pain.

However, India can cause some real pain if it wants to.

A belated but welcome realization. At least some have started understanding what is what.

It is astonishing that they persist in irritating India at every opportunity, and then stand around ashen-faced and full of self-pity when they face the inevitable consequences.
 
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It is astonishing that they persist in irritating India at every opportunity, and then stand around ashen-faced and full of self-pity when they face the inevitable consequences.

I have too often seen the tendency. They know what are their options.

They don't realize the range of options that others have!

We exercised our option just once, they have not managed to forget it even now.
 
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