Pakistan,s defence spending lowest in region

[Manindra]

No need to do that our government is after other politicians money these days
And if such a situation arises I wont be the only one transferring the money. Remember Paksitanis were ready to eat grass for atomic bomb.

Tell me when need arise I would send you recipe of Grass Curry.

 

[A2Z]

Tell me when need arise I would send you recipe of Grass Curry.

Eating only grass for centuries you guys must be a master in that by now?

 

[Manindra]

Eating only grass for centuries you guys must be a master in that by now?

We make yummy grass curries that's why we able to explode our first Nuclear device in 1974.

 

[A2Z]

We make yummy grass curries that's why we able to explode our first Nuclear device in 1974.

We got that and soon after 1973 we ate grass for a couple of decades but then we stopped you know eating grass is not good for making fighter jets and tanks.

 

[Manindra]

We got that and soon after 1973 we ate grass for a couple of decades but then we stopped you know eating grass is not good for making fighter jets and tanks.

We already doing it despite eating grass.

 

[A2Z]

We already doing it despite eating grass.

See this is what too much grass does, you are reading my post and not understanding it. No problem I'll explain, you need to stop eating grass if you want that your jets should fly and then actually be inducted in air force as well and tanks that are so good that at least your own army decides to purchase them and you don't have to force it over them.

 

[Manindra]

See this is what too much grass does, you are reading my post and not understanding it. No problem I'll explain, you need to stop eating grass if you want that your jets should fly and then actually be inducted in air force as well and tanks that are so good that at least your own army decides to purchase them and you don't have to force it over them.

So, you saying that JF-17 & AL-KHALID (MBT-2000) is your product not JV( In which your contribution is mostly financial)
as you are just producing the product that we are doing since 50s.

 

[Tipu7]

Literacy rate goes by ability to read a local newspaper. While an improvement in that is good. Pakistan still can do a lot better. Better educated people can only help the economy.

If you want to talk about Libya and Iraq then look at the facts they both were quite strong and heavily armed, and it wasn't until foreign intervention that those countries fell. the problem with those countries was their governments didn't deliver a fair government. Otherwise Libya made a lot of progress, it even had free healthcare. Gadaffi was unfair and greedy but the high education rate is what got his country there. No one looks at Libya and thinks if only they had spent more on weapons and less on education.


Also civil wars kind of make the countries strength useless because they can create divisions within the armed forces.

Survival comes first. Education and all other aspects comes later, including health. it is reality brur budgets for health and education are limited, still most of it is consumed in the form of corruption. so by increasing budget to these areas will bring nothing very good............ believe me

apparently Pakistans income is also lowest in the region

Thanks for such important news.

So, you saying that JF-17 & AL-KHALID (MBT-2000) is your product not JV( In which your contribution is mostly financial)
as you are just producing the product that we are doing since 50s

ok great, then what? what's the problem then?

 

[Manindra]

ok great, then what? what's the problem then?

No, I am just clearing another one's misconception.

 

[A2Z]

So, you saying that JF-17 & AL-KHALID (MBT-2000) is your product not JV( In which your contribution is mostly financial)
as you are just producing the product that we are doing since 50s.

First of all for the first time you are correct JF-17 is a joint venture but Pakistan's contribution is not limited to finance. Pakistan produces 60% of it domestically and the rest China provides us which, btw includes the engine which we weren't getting directly up till now.
Next Al-Khalid is a Pakistani derivative of MTB-2000 and Pakistan played its part in its production as well. Just like Chinese called Pakistanis to test and suggest improvement to their latest product MBT-3000.
And if the things are as you claim and India is doing it since 50s what we started in 90s then why isn't LCA a reality up till now?, with all the help you get from Israel and the rest. Why is Indian Army still preferring T-90 over Arjun?

 

[Manindra]

First of all for the first time you are correct JF-17 is a joint venture but Pakistan's contribution is not limited to finance. Pakistan produces 60% of it domestically and the rest China provides us which, btw includes the engine which we weren't getting directly up till now.
Next Al-Khalid is a Pakistani derivative of MTB-2000 and Pakistan played its part in its production as well. Just like Chinese called Pakistanis to test and suggest improvement to their latest product MBT-3000.
And if the things are as you claim and India is doing it since 50s what we started in 90s then why isn't LCA a reality up till now?, with all the help you get from Israel and the rest. Why is Indian Army still preferring T-90 over Arjun?

Production is different thing as we produce 95% of Su-30 MKI in India but development is another thing.
If US give us licence then we would able to produce F-22 Raptor but can't develop right now.

 

[A2Z]

Production is different thing as we produce 95% of Su-30 MKI in India but development is another thing.

Who said Pakistan was not involved in development of JF-17 and MBT-2000?

 

[Manindra]

Who said Pakistan was not involved in development of JF-17 and MBT-2000?

Then what is contribution
Engine, Avionics, APU, Gearbox, Tyre etc..........?

 

[A2Z]

Then what is contribution
Engine, Avionics, APU, Gearbox, Tyre etc..........?

Well there are many threads on this forum that will provide you with the answers you seek and if you still feel unsatisfied, Google is your friend.

 

[Manindra]

Well there are many threads on this forum that will provide you with the answers you seek and if you still feel unsatisfied, Google is your friend.

This is typical response I get I know that but that does not change fact neither it's to feel shame as Pakistan never licence produced tanks & aircraft before like India but you make it matter of your nose then what can I do.