Pakistan’s costly controversy

[Spring Onion]

An excellent analysis. I have yet to see one of the PDF Pakistani posters here explain how such and such a sentence in the KLB insulted, micromanaged or harmed Pakistan. The "kerfuffle" is overblown xenophobia, endlessly and mindlessly repeated. Rationality took a hike in Pakistan on this one.

Tell me which condition in KLB is in favour of Pakistan?

And tell me how it is going to help reducing poverty or any other development in Civilian sector when almost all the aid is going back either to US NGOs or corrupt politicians for allowing US to interfere in Pakistani affairs.

 

[asq]

^^^^ Oh plz!! Lets stick to the point in this thread rather than discussing about irrelevant stuff

Why? as Jana said it has been discussed at length, I guess the writer has written this and is repeating it to earn some browny point.

That is not how one earns browny point, one does earn them by being truthful, sansative and offer solutions so that a healthy discussion is carried out, this one in not any one of those.

 

[TaimiKhan]

An excellent analysis. I have yet to see one of the PDF Pakistani posters here explain how such and such a sentence in the KLB insulted, micromanaged or harmed Pakistan. The "kerfuffle" is overblown xenophobia, endlessly and mindlessly repeated. Rationality took a hike in Pakistan on this one.

Do see the interview of American ambassador to Pakistan & her admitting to the language of the bill, the mistake of restrictions & admitting that often senators don't even read the bills before passing it. If the US ambassador is accepting faults in the bill, then i believe there is something wrong wit it.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/strate...urther-pressurize-pakistan-14.html#post520450

And also do read this whole thread, link pasted above, so that you get an idea of the questions that you have asked.

Plus another thread would be needing your attention to see the real picture of the US aid & its effectiveness & performance. Link pasted below.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/strate...-000-ngos-line-work-pakistan-kll-dollars.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/u-s-fo...-u-s-aid-afghanistan-been-being-utilized.html

Hope so, you & some of your colleagues get another perspective of the things & the real problems faced.

 

[Skywalker]

Another gift from Sen. Kerry: Al Qaeda's headquarter is in Pakistan and Pakistan can become the epicentre of terrorism for the whole world.

Wow what a slap on Mr. 10% govt. Mr. Kerry is so naive in blaming Pakistan and suggesting baseless thing as he cant see the 70% of Afghanistan is under Taliban control as compare to almost none by Taliban in Pakistan.

So how come Alqaeda can be more safer in Pakistan then Afghanistan.

Just trying to find the reasons to prolong their stay in our backyard.

 

[TruthSeeker]

Tell me which condition in KLB is in favour of Pakistan?

And tell me how it is going to help reducing poverty or any other development in Civilian sector when almost all the aid is going back either to US NGOs or corrupt politicians for allowing US to interfere in Pakistani affairs.

The KLB condition that is favor of Pakistan is the $7.5 B worth of money, goods and services for non-military purposes transferred from the USA to the people of Pakistan. You don't know that almost all of the aid is going back to US NGO or to corrupt Pakistani politicians. That is your xenophobic irrationality speaking. AND you weren't able to point out any sentences in the KLB that are not in favor of Pakistan. Prove that your fears are justified by the actual language of the KLB! (If you can....)

 

[TruthSeeker]

taimikham,

All legislative bills can be criticized for having language that isn't perfect. The ambassador was just trying to smooth over the irrational objections of the Pakistani press and the ignorant public furor. It doesn't mean that the KLB is bad for Pakistan. If the USA stopped granting aide to countries with rampant corruption and whose politicians and generals misused our aid, we would never give any foreign aid. It is precisely consistent that the governments most in need of foreign aid are the ones that are the most screwed up with corruption and are failing to make the best decisions for their own people.


So, can you point out even one sentence in the KLB that is harmful to Pakistan and explain why?

 

[Gin ka Pakistan]

Former Pakistan to U.S. ambassador Maleeha Lodhi describes the Kerry Lugar bill:

“the offending part of the legislation sets up the country as hired help and puts the military in the dock, presumed guilty on many counts and having to prove its innocence to Washington”.

after every six months

 

[qsaark]

Let me put in most simple words for those who are not getting why the KLB is insignificant. The money proposed in the KLB is only 0.04% of the Pakistan's total budget. If the total amount is equally divided in every Pakistani, each will merely get $20. What economical and social benefits you see will come out from this little money? And in return of this insignificant amount what the Americans are asking from the GoP? This peanut with all the strings attached is not worth it.

It would therefore be more appropriate if the US keeps this money and spend it on its own people especially in health and housing sector. Pakistanis wont dye if they don’t get this money.

 

[rubyjackass]

Let me put in most simple words for those who are not getting why the KLB is insignificant. The money proposed in the KLB is only 0.04% of the Pakistan's total budget. If the total amount is equally divided in every Pakistani, each will merely get $20. What economical and social benefits you see will come out from this little money? And in return of this insignificant amount what the Americans are asking from the GoP? This peanut with all the strings attached is not worth it.

It would therefore be more appropriate if the US keeps this money and spend it on its own people especially in health and housing sector. Pakistanis wont dye if they don’t get this money.

Pakistan's budget was $36bil. $1.5 bil works out to be 4.1%. May be you were mistaknely counting wrt GDP. Btw the $36bil budget has 5% deficit i.e., $1.8 bil. And this budget is expecting the following:

The government is expecting Rs138bn in foreign assistance and another Rs170bn from the Friends of Pakistan Group.

DAWN.COM | Pakistan | Budget 2009-10
which is about $1.7 bil. Not long ago Pakistan borrowed $10+bil from IMF.

ANyway my point is anything and everything is worth it when it is coming free. More so if it is 4+% of a budget bloated by deficit and foreign payments.