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Pakistan proposes to create a military block of Islamic states

And why are indians so concerned if we want to make a union with Muslim countries to our west :angel:


Why should India like any other nation not be observant ( if not concerned ) of the moves being made in its neighborhood and the world ?
 
What gets my monkey is this continual delusion of military grandeur that most of our Pakistani friends here are convulting on 24 x 7. Why not look for an economic union or an economic block for strengthening the trade and prosperity of the different populaces. No surprises that there are no takes even within the purported Umm-aah for these offerings from Pakistan.

Factually even when considering a military block, at least get the baluchs , the sindhis, NWFP and Gilgit Baltitastan on board before going for an international military bloc. Or will it be just Punjab from Pakistan for the claim to the military bloc fame??
 
It would be a good thing if such a thing ever materializes, even with a few muslim countries at a smaller scale initially would be a great thing. Others can follow at a later time.
 
Erdogan: Iran, Pakistan, Turkey, Afghanistan have common future


ISLAMABAD/TEHRAN - Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said that Pakistan, Turkey, Afghanistan, and Iran have a common future, and the security of each country is dependent on the security of the others, but the enemies are creating problems for the four countries.


The Turkish prime minister made the remarks in Islamabad in interview with Hamid Mir, The News reported on Friday.

Erdogan said the United States was supporting some common enemies of Pakistan and Turkey and the time has come to unmask them and act together.

The Turkish prime minister insisted that Pakistan and Turkey must play a decisive role in the efforts to stabilize Afghanistan.

He said that both Pakistan and Turkey had suffered under military dictators who were always supported by the USA, politicians were hanged by military regimes in both countries, and both countries are fighting against terrorism nowadays.

“We have common problems and common solutions, military dictatorships have always created problems, and democracy is a common solution,” Erdogan noted.

Asked why no military dictator has ever been tried in the courts of Turkey and Pakistan, he replied, “I don’t support hanging any military dictator, but law must take its action against all those who abrogated the constitution.”

He also said that some foreign hands are supporting terrorists in Pakistan and Turkey directly and also through some NGOs.

Erdogan was very hard on the “double standards” of the USA and said that the Israeli attack on a Turkish ship of the Freedom Flotilla unmasked the so-called civilized face of Washington, which openly and shamelessly supported the state terrorism of Israel.

“Nine Turkish martyrs on the ship received 21 bullets from Israeli soldiers in their bodies. We provided post mortem reports and even the pictures to the EU and USA, but Washington is not ready to condemn the state terrorism of Israel against Turkey, which means that the USA is supporting international terrorists who killed our citizens in international waters.”

He said that the people of Pakistan should not fight with each other and they must concentrate on helping the 20 million flood victims. “Instability and infighting will only help your enemies, who are looking for an opportunity to use Pakistanis against Pakistanis.”

Turkey has sent “at least 125 million dollars of aid, both by the government and non-governmental organizations,” said UN Special Envoy to Pakistan Rauf Engin Soysal.

“We installed 2,000 prefabricated houses near Multan, and a total of 3,000 will be built,” the head of the Turkish Red Crescent, Omer Taslit, said.

“If you will not understand the evil designs of your enemies, then what will be the future of 20 million flood victims of Pakistan, who will help them if you start fighting with each other,” Erdogan warned.

“Pakistan is my second home, and I am concerned about the internal situation of my second home,” he added.


Asked what his advice would be to Pakistan about diplomatic relations with Israel, since Turkey has diplomatic relations with Israel, Erdogan responded very carefully, saying that “despite diplomatic relations, Israel never behaved like a civilized country with Turkey, and I cannot give any advice to my Pakistani brothers; it is their right to decide about making relations with Israel.”

He went on to say that Pakistan and India must resolve the Kashmir dispute by peaceful talks. “You need strong political will for resolving the Kashmir dispute,” he added.

Erdogan said Israel will “remain isolated” if Tel Aviv refuses to apologize for killing Turkish human rights activists, Press TV reported on Friday.

“Israel must apologize to Turkey and pay compensation. If it does not, it will be doomed to remain isolated in the Middle East,” Erdogan added.


tehran times : Erdogan: Iran, Pakistan, Turkey, Afghanistan have common future

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US backing international terrorists: Turkish PM Erdogan

ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister of Turkey Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said the US was supporting some common enemies of Pakistan and Turkey and the time has come to unmask them and act together.

In an exclusive chat with this correspondent in the presence of Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani, the Turkish prime minister very candidly answered critical questions not only about Turkey-Pakistan relations but also on some other important issues before leaving Pakistan on Tuesday night.

The Turkish premier said that the people of Pakistan should not fight with each other and they must concentrate on rehabilitation of 20 million flood victims. “Instability and infighting will only help your enemies who are looking for an opportunity to use Pakistanis against Pakistanis.

“If you will not understand the evil designs of your enemies then what will be the future of 20 million flood victims of Pakistan, who will help them if you start fighting with each other,” Erdogan warned.

He said that Pakistan,Turkey, Afghanistan and Iran have a common future, security of one country lies in the security of others but our enemies are creating problems for us. He said: “Pakistan is my second home and I am concerned about the internal situation of my second home”.

He insisted that Pakistan and Turkey must play a decisive role to stabilise Afghanistan. He said that both Pakistan and Turkey suffered from military dictators who were always supported by the USA; politicians were hanged by military regimes in both countries, and both the countries are fighting against terrorism these days. Erdogan said: “We have common problems and common solutions, military dictatorships have always created problems and democracy is a common solution”.

When asked why no military dictator has ever not been tried in courts of Turkey and Pakistan, he said: “I don’t support hanging any military dictator but law must take its action against all those who abrogated constitution”. He said that some foreign hands are supporting terrorists in Pakistan and Turkey directly and also through some NGO’s.

Erdogan was very hard on the “double standards” of the USA and said that a recent Israeli attack on a Turkish ship Freedom Flotilla have unmasked the so-called civilised face of Washington who openly and shamelessly supported the state terrorism of Israel. “Nine Turkish martyrs on the ship received 21 bullets from Israeli soldiers in their bodies, we provided post mortem reports and even the pictures to the EU and USA but Washington is not ready to condemn the state terrorism of Israel against Turkey which means that the USA is supporting an international terrorist who killed our citizens in international waters”.

When asked that Turkey have diplomatic relations with Israel and what would be his advice to Pakistan for making diplomatic relations with Israel, Erdogan responded very carefully and said that “despite diplomatic relations Israel never behaved like a civilised country with Turkey and I cannot give any advice to my Pakistani brothers; it is their right to decide about making relations with Israel”. Erdogan said that Pakistan and India must resolve Kashmir dispute by peaceful talks. “You need strong political will for resolving Kashmir dispute,” he added.

During the conversation of the Turkish prime minister with this scribe, Yusuf Raza Gilani also suggested a question that “what is the procedure for the appointment of judges in Turkey?” Erdogan explained the whole process in detail and said that Parliament has an important role for the appointment of judges in Turkey. “I am facing problems from the courts but I am sure these problems will be resolved.” After listening this answer a very meaningful smile appeared on the face of PM Gilani and he said that “everything will be resolved nothing bad will happen in Pakistan”.


US backing international terrorists: Turkish PM Erdogan - PakTribune








Gulf monarchs might be slaves of the west but not the common Arab Muslim in those countries.

Shocking cable: US says Saudi donors are chief financiers of al Qaeda | The Raw Story

And don't forget most of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudis, Osama Bin Laden himself was Saudi. The Gulf rulers love the west, but not the people.

---------- Post added at 09:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:14 PM ----------



And why are indians so concerned if we want to make a union with Muslim countries to our west :angel:


indians should read this post over and over again until it sinks in their tiny brains.
 
Trade makes the world tick nowadays. No amount of burqa bans will ever consolidate the muslim countries. Money talks. They have to form an economic block first, the old ways of alliances are now not as effective.

Frankly, in another decade, i see India and Pakistan's economy becoming tightly coupled. That would also bring more complications. India is striving VERY hard for a south asian economic union.

I am not saying the burqa bans will consolidate the Muslim world, but they raise awareness about the anti-Islam agenda that has taken center stage in Western countries. Terrorism and "integration" are just excuses for the Zionists to target Muslims -- the bigotry has been there all these decades, 9/11 only served to "legitimize" their Islamophobia.

Just recently there was a "report" about Germany's Muslim population. These bigots simply will not let their Muslim citizens live in peace.

And why would they chose Pakistan as the leader of Muslim block?

Who is talking about Pakistan leading anything? We are advocating each country become strong economically and then join forces as a shield against Western sanctions and blackmail.
 
Erdogan: Iran, Pakistan, Turkey, Afghanistan have common future


ISLAMABAD/TEHRAN - Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said that Pakistan, Turkey, Afghanistan, and Iran have a common future, and the security of each country is dependent on the security of the others, but the enemies are creating problems for the four countries.


The Turkish prime minister made the remarks in Islamabad in interview with Hamid Mir, The News reported on Friday.

Erdogan said the United States was supporting some common enemies of Pakistan and Turkey and the time has come to unmask them and act together.

The Turkish prime minister insisted that Pakistan and Turkey must play a decisive role in the efforts to stabilize Afghanistan.

He said that both Pakistan and Turkey had suffered under military dictators who were always supported by the USA, politicians were hanged by military regimes in both countries, and both countries are fighting against terrorism nowadays.

“We have common problems and common solutions, military dictatorships have always created problems, and democracy is a common solution,” Erdogan noted.

Asked why no military dictator has ever been tried in the courts of Turkey and Pakistan, he replied, “I don’t support hanging any military dictator, but law must take its action against all those who abrogated the constitution.”

He also said that some foreign hands are supporting terrorists in Pakistan and Turkey directly and also through some NGOs.

Erdogan was very hard on the “double standards” of the USA and said that the Israeli attack on a Turkish ship of the Freedom Flotilla unmasked the so-called civilized face of Washington, which openly and shamelessly supported the state terrorism of Israel.

“Nine Turkish martyrs on the ship received 21 bullets from Israeli soldiers in their bodies. We provided post mortem reports and even the pictures to the EU and USA, but Washington is not ready to condemn the state terrorism of Israel against Turkey, which means that the USA is supporting international terrorists who killed our citizens in international waters.”

He said that the people of Pakistan should not fight with each other and they must concentrate on helping the 20 million flood victims. “Instability and infighting will only help your enemies, who are looking for an opportunity to use Pakistanis against Pakistanis.”

Turkey has sent “at least 125 million dollars of aid, both by the government and non-governmental organizations,” said UN Special Envoy to Pakistan Rauf Engin Soysal.

“We installed 2,000 prefabricated houses near Multan, and a total of 3,000 will be built,” the head of the Turkish Red Crescent, Omer Taslit, said.

“If you will not understand the evil designs of your enemies, then what will be the future of 20 million flood victims of Pakistan, who will help them if you start fighting with each other,” Erdogan warned.

“Pakistan is my second home, and I am concerned about the internal situation of my second home,” he added.


Asked what his advice would be to Pakistan about diplomatic relations with Israel, since Turkey has diplomatic relations with Israel, Erdogan responded very carefully, saying that “despite diplomatic relations, Israel never behaved like a civilized country with Turkey, and I cannot give any advice to my Pakistani brothers; it is their right to decide about making relations with Israel.”

He went on to say that Pakistan and India must resolve the Kashmir dispute by peaceful talks. “You need strong political will for resolving the Kashmir dispute,” he added.

Erdogan said Israel will “remain isolated” if Tel Aviv refuses to apologize for killing Turkish human rights activists, Press TV reported on Friday.

“Israel must apologize to Turkey and pay compensation. If it does not, it will be doomed to remain isolated in the Middle East,” Erdogan added.


tehran times : Erdogan: Iran, Pakistan, Turkey, Afghanistan have common future

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US backing international terrorists: Turkish PM Erdogan

ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister of Turkey Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said the US was supporting some common enemies of Pakistan and Turkey and the time has come to unmask them and act together.

In an exclusive chat with this correspondent in the presence of Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani, the Turkish prime minister very candidly answered critical questions not only about Turkey-Pakistan relations but also on some other important issues before leaving Pakistan on Tuesday night.

The Turkish premier said that the people of Pakistan should not fight with each other and they must concentrate on rehabilitation of 20 million flood victims. “Instability and infighting will only help your enemies who are looking for an opportunity to use Pakistanis against Pakistanis.

“If you will not understand the evil designs of your enemies then what will be the future of 20 million flood victims of Pakistan, who will help them if you start fighting with each other,” Erdogan warned.

He said that Pakistan,Turkey, Afghanistan and Iran have a common future, security of one country lies in the security of others but our enemies are creating problems for us. He said: “Pakistan is my second home and I am concerned about the internal situation of my second home”.

He insisted that Pakistan and Turkey must play a decisive role to stabilise Afghanistan. He said that both Pakistan and Turkey suffered from military dictators who were always supported by the USA; politicians were hanged by military regimes in both countries, and both the countries are fighting against terrorism these days. Erdogan said: “We have common problems and common solutions, military dictatorships have always created problems and democracy is a common solution”.

When asked why no military dictator has ever not been tried in courts of Turkey and Pakistan, he said: “I don’t support hanging any military dictator but law must take its action against all those who abrogated constitution”. He said that some foreign hands are supporting terrorists in Pakistan and Turkey directly and also through some NGO’s.

Erdogan was very hard on the “double standards” of the USA and said that a recent Israeli attack on a Turkish ship Freedom Flotilla have unmasked the so-called civilised face of Washington who openly and shamelessly supported the state terrorism of Israel. “Nine Turkish martyrs on the ship received 21 bullets from Israeli soldiers in their bodies, we provided post mortem reports and even the pictures to the EU and USA but Washington is not ready to condemn the state terrorism of Israel against Turkey which means that the USA is supporting an international terrorist who killed our citizens in international waters”.

When asked that Turkey have diplomatic relations with Israel and what would be his advice to Pakistan for making diplomatic relations with Israel, Erdogan responded very carefully and said that “despite diplomatic relations Israel never behaved like a civilised country with Turkey and I cannot give any advice to my Pakistani brothers; it is their right to decide about making relations with Israel”. Erdogan said that Pakistan and India must resolve Kashmir dispute by peaceful talks. “You need strong political will for resolving Kashmir dispute,” he added.

During the conversation of the Turkish prime minister with this scribe, Yusuf Raza Gilani also suggested a question that “what is the procedure for the appointment of judges in Turkey?” Erdogan explained the whole process in detail and said that Parliament has an important role for the appointment of judges in Turkey. “I am facing problems from the courts but I am sure these problems will be resolved.” After listening this answer a very meaningful smile appeared on the face of PM Gilani and he said that “everything will be resolved nothing bad will happen in Pakistan”.


US backing international terrorists: Turkish PM Erdogan - PakTribune








Gulf monarchs might be slaves of the west but not the common Arab Muslim in those countries.

Shocking cable: US says Saudi donors are chief financiers of al Qaeda | The Raw Story

And don't forget most of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudis, Osama Bin Laden himself was Saudi. The Gulf rulers love the west, but not the people.

---------- Post added at 09:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:14 PM ----------



And why are indians so concerned if we want to make a union with Muslim countries to our west :angel:

I can smell diplomacy in this article. I would speak exactly the same as he does to gain Muslim support and on the other hand remain a NATO member. Plus there is some frustration among Turkish bureaucrats after the sanctions called on Turkey in French Parliament. Before that there were no such statements of Muslim economic block and etc..

I don't think apart from Israel there is any other country he is talking about. Where as recently Musharraf was in support of Israel Pakistan relationships some days back :rofl:. No one in Turkey is really interested in any Muslim block, it is the vested Interest only to suppress Israel and come over French Sanctions.

You can see yourself how the things are moving.

Lastly India has a credible Muslim population so we have to observe such nexus.
 
I am not saying the burqa bans will consolidate the Muslim world, but they raise awareness about the anti-Islam agenda that has taken center stage in Western countries. Terrorism and "integration" are just excuses for the Zionists to target Muslims -- the bigotry has been there all these decades, 9/11 only served to "legitimize" their Islamophobia.

What difference does it make when Islamic nations are worse than Western Nations wrt human rights and phobia's about the 'other religion'? Wont the west start highlighting these things in these countries to justify further bans and whatnot?
 
Damn... just think how powerful it would be... PAK-TURKIYE-IRAN-KSA-UAE-EGYPT-INDONESIA-MALAYSIA-MORROCO-ALGERIA-JORDAN-AZERBAIJAN-KAZAKISTAN-TURKMANISTAN-UZBEKISTAN-AFGHANISTAN-BOSNIA-ETC ETC...

Such a block would be powerful enough to deal with any threat from NATO or any other block.

:rofl::rofl::rofl: r u out of mind??. Have u ever heard abt Arab league?? Pakistan seeking membership in AL for long time but still now they are not even issued observer status which India has . So don't go getting delusion of grandeur.
 
:rofl::rofl::rofl: r u out of mind??. Have u ever heard abt Arab league?? Pakistan seeking membership in AL for long time but still now they are not even issued observer status which India has . So don't go getting delusion of grandeur.
Which Brahmin source have told ya that? :what:
 
:rofl::rofl::rofl: r u out of mind??. Have u ever heard abt Arab league?? Pakistan seeking membership in AL for long time but still now they are not even issued observer status which India has . So don't go getting delusion of grandeur.

Actually Pakistan can go as far as making Arabic a compulsory language and Promoting Arabic Media in Pakistan to Fully Arabise Pakistan just to get in to Arab league, if they can't get in to it based on Economy and other strengths ,. They can easily get in to Arab league.
 

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