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Pakistan PIA attains profit of Rs1.67bn for first quarter of 2014

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KARACHI: The Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) has attained operating profit of Rs1.67 billion for the first quarter of 2014 – January 1 to March 31 – as against a loss of Rs5.65 billion of corresponding period last year.

The national flag carrier has attained the operating profit for the first quarter after a lapse of four years.

This was declared in the board of directors meeting, chaired by Secretary Aviation and Chairman PIA, Muhammad Ali Gardezi, held at the airline’s head office here on Tuesday. Managing Director PIA, Muhammad Junaid Yuonus was also present in the meeting.

According to the results of first quarter 2014, the total revenue stood at Rs28.0 billion as against Rs25 billion of 2013.

However, the net loss after paying financial costs and taxation stood at Rs1.98 billion as against Rs8.62 billion last, which shows a remarkable decline of almost 77 per cent in losses. The loss per share has dropped from Rs2.86 to Rs0.56.

The government of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has been taking bold steps including privatisation to enhance the national flag carrier’s customer services, on time flight arrivals and departures with safety in order to make it a profitable entity.

The board appreciated performance of the national airline and efforts of Shujaat Azeem, Special Assistant to Prime Minister on Aviation and Chairman PIA Gardezi for the revival of PIA.

PIA attains profit of Rs1.67bn for first quarter of 2014 - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
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the news says PIA made a loss of 2 billion rupees in just one quater, this will end up in 6-8 billion rupees loss per year.
still a good news though
 
I can't but bring in an overall picture here. The amount government spends on bailing these loss making entities out, can be spend on a lot of other things. 6 billion or 2 billion rupees is a big amount. That too for just a few months. Imagine how much PIA has looted alone in the past 5 years. Would be enough to put JF-17 on track or purchase a couple of used F-16 squadrons (just putting in perspective)
 
Donatello said:
I can't but bring in an overall picture here. The amount government spends on bailing these loss making entities out, can be spend on a lot of other things. 6 billion or 2 billion rupees is a big amount. That too for just a few months. Imagine how much PIA has looted alone in the past 5 years. Would be enough to put JF-17 on track or purchase a couple of used F-16 squadrons (just putting in perspective)
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PIA lost Rs 169 billion and Railways Rs 141 billion in last 5 years.
 
How are they paying taxed when they are facing losses from the past 4 years .. who are they trying to fool ?
 
 
Donatello said:
I can't but bring in an overall picture here. The amount government spends on bailing these loss making entities out, can be spend on a lot of other things. 6 billion or 2 billion rupees is a big amount. That too for just a few months. Imagine how much PIA has looted alone in the past 5 years. Would be enough to put JF-17 on track or purchase a couple of used F-16 squadrons (just putting in perspective)
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very simple, PIA is giving jobs to over 18,000 people and ssame amount is given in pensions...how many people will be affected if JF-17 progrmme goes down..apparently none that is visible.
i will surprised if he can even privitze it.
we are all having misleading news in media to avoid such privatization, a clear cut loss making figures but yet the news title says profits:hitwall:

total loss making entites was 500 billion rupees last year slightly less than defence budget.
some major winners were electric compnies,Steel mills,PIA and railway
International media: WSJ acknowledges Pakistan’s privatisation vision
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Published: January 25, 2014



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Spurred by a $6.6 billion loan from the International Monetary Fund, Sharif’s government in September 2013 committed to begin the privatisation process of more than 30 public energy, transport and infrastructure corporations over the three years. ILLUSTRATION: JAMAL KHURSHID

ISLAMABAD: Wall Street Journal has acknowledged Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s
vision to privatise Pakistan’s state-dominated failing enterprises and hopes that it will help the country overcome its economic crisis.

The paper stated that Sharif has the opportunity to deliver on a long standing promise of privatisation, after the country’s first transition from one elected government to another.

The paper mentioned the 49% rise in Pakistan’s benchmark stock index in 2013, and expressed belief that more economic good news will follow this year, if Sharif delivers on his privatisation promise.

In a write-up on its opinion page, ‘Pakistan Privatises for Growth’, Sharif’s chance to reform a state-dominated economy stated that though Pakistan faced numerous problems — from terrorism and lawless territories to power shortages and polio, privatising ‘state-owned dinosaurs’ was not the sole solution.



“But the sooner Islamabad can stop hemorrhaging Rs500 billion (nearly $5 billion) annually on budgets, subsidies and bailouts for failing enterprises, the better,” the paper said.

Spurred by a $6.6 billion loan from the International Monetary Fund, Sharif’s government in September 2013 committed to begin the privatisation process of more than 30 public energy, transport and infrastructure corporations over the three years.

These include Pakistan State Oil, Pakistan International Airlines and Pakistan Steel Mills. The process was being led by a 15-member privatisation commission headed by Mohammad Zubair, formerly IBM’s chief financial officer for the Middle East and Africa.

The paper hoped that the process will move forward with the expertise and political independence; starting with partial privatisation of Pakistan International Airlines by December.

ISLAMABAD: Criminal corruption and incompetence in at least eight public sector enterprises (PSEs) have gobbled down approximately Rs1,500 billion in taxpayersí money in a mere 48-month time span, The News shockingly learnt Monday.

Moreover, the losses figure is expected to cross the Rs2,000 billion mark by the end of the year, according to reliable sources.The unprecedented spike in losses ñ an accumulated consequence of brazen corruption and gross incompetence ñ is being blamed on the present government’s penchant for appointing lackeys and cronies to key posts in these public sector companies.

An official report on the financial losses and profits of at least eight PSEs available with The News including the power sector (Pepco), Pakistan Railways (PR), Pakistan International Airlines (PIA), Pakistan Steel Mills (PSM), Utility Stores Corporation (USC), Trading Corporation of Pakistan (TCP), Pakistan Agricultural Storage & Supplies Corporation (Passco) as well as the National Highway Authority (NHA), revealed that during the period 2007-08 to 2010-11, major losses incurred on account of power subsidies in all shapes amount to the tune of Rs1,100 billion.

While the remaining PSEs have caused financial losses of Rs400 billion during the last four years, the report states that TCP and USC were profit making enterprises in the public sector during this period. Total losses of PSEs stood at Rs86.7 billion during the 2007-08 fiscal year with major loss incurred to PIA to the tune of Rs36.1 billion, Pakistan Railways Rs16.9 billion, Passco Rs3.4 billion and NHA Rs33.5 billion. Meanwhile, the profits earned by USC and TCP stood at Rs2.1 billion Rs1.1 billion respectively in 2007-08. However, the losses of PSM for 2007-08 are not available in the official report.

The losses of PSEs skyrocketed up to Rs90.8 billion in 2008-09 with a major burden on the national kitty because of losses faced by the Pakistan Steel Mills amounting to the tune of Rs26.5 billion, NHA Rs35.3 billion, Pakistan Railways Rs23 billion, PIA Rs4.9 billion and Passco Rs3.3 billion. The profits earned by USC stood at Rs0.5 billion and TCP Rs0.8 billion during fiscal year 2008-09.

The subsidies to PSEs consumed Rs90.8 billion in the 2009-10 fiscal year with major losses incurred by the NHA at Rs44.4 billion, Pakistan Railways Rs25 billion, PIA Rs20 billion, PSM Rs11.5 billion and Passco Rs13.8 billion. The profits earned by USC and TCP were Rs0.7 billion Rs1.6 billion respectively in 2009-10.

The losses of PSEs touched Rs101 billion in the 2010-11fiscal year as the financial burden of Pakistan Railways had eaten up approximately Rs31.1 billion of taxpayersí money. PIA losses in the first nine months of 2010-11 stood at Rs19.3 billion, PSM Rs11.5 billion, Passco Rs14.1 billion and NHA Rs36.5 billion. TCP profits, by comparison, stood at Rs1.4 billion during the 2010-11 fiscal year.

According to the official report, persistent poor performance of certain PSEs during the last few years is taking its toll on the fiscal picture. These colossal losses are causing serious impediments in achieving much needed fiscal consolidation and retarding economic growth. An analysis of the financial position of Pakistan Railways, PIA, PSM, USC, TCP, Passco and NHA reveals that most of them are incurring huge losses. The losses are persistently maintaining upward pressures as these stood at Rs113.2 billion in 2009-10 as compared to Rs90.8 billion in 2008-09.

The report states that energy outages are not only impeding the growth prospects but are taking a huge toll on the national exchequer in terms of huge subsidies to cover the tariff differential subsidy (TDS). The government has to pay Rs238.8 billion to cover inter-Disco (power distribution companies) tariff differential. Losses incurred by four Discos including Gepco (Gujranwala Electric Power Company), Mepco (Multan Electric Power Company), Pepco (Peshawar Electric Power Company) and Hepco (Hyderabad Electric Power Company) stood at Rs27.1 billion during 2010-11 ñ almost doubled from Rs14.5 billion in 2009-10.

The losses of these four Discos stood at Rs8.3 billion in 2006-07, Rs21.6 billion in 2007-08, Rs5.4 billion in 2008-09, Rs14.5 billion in 2009-10 and Rs27.1 billion in 2010-11. Now the government has envisaged a budget amount of Rs11.2 billion for these four Discos for the current fiscal year 2011-12.

The report stipulates that the government could have contained the fiscal deficit at 5.2 percent of the GDP if total subsidies had been kept within the budget target of Rs126.7 billion instead of a whopping amount of Rs380.6 billion in 2010-11.

According to the report, the government-formed Cabinet Committee on Restructuring (CCoR) which is entrusted with the task of addressing the fiscal maladies being confronted by PSEs due to poor performance needs to be addressed urgently by the restructuring of a roadmap for their improved economic governance.

The focus of the restructuring is to (i) improve overall corporate governance of PSEs (ii) curtail haemorrhaging: (iii) improve service delivery; (iv) reduce fiscal burden on the exchequer and (v) move to a structural surplus and increased public sector savings.

The report maintains that PSE reforms based on the foregoing contours will be helpful in spurring economic growth, attaining fiscal consolidation and setting aside resources for investing in critical areas like education, health, energy and road infrastructure. Moreover, it will abate pressure on borrowing for budgetary support and devise monetary policy to support private sector investment, the report concluded.


just take example of steel mills, have it not been knock down by supreme court govt would have saved atleast 130 billion rupees in direct revenues. another 2-3 billion dollars in taxes and foreign exchange saving earning, hell due to high imports of steel its possible we wouldnt have had a negative fiscal deficit!! and probably would have not needed IMF.
the only steel mills of pakistan is closed for now 5 years with zero running just paying off salaries of worth billions i think last year mere salaries were 8-12 billion rupees excluding pensios
not only did we lost the chance to give it to a local firm we also lost chance of investment and more importantly killed off any foreign investment afterwards..no reason why mushi wanted to get rid of him.



govt should close PIA if it cant sell it. period.
the amount spend could have been used establish and run a state of the art hospital in every district..thats what we need we dont need PIA there are dozens of pakistani and foreign companies to do so. look at air blue for example..

yes state companies are needed in some field to take the lead and encourage other entites e.g in thar coal these days or to build mega dams..but definetly not running loss making entites
 
It appears my skepticism was well founded. Had it not been for the exchange gain of 5.6B, PIA's losses would have been far greater. So much for the turn around :tdown:.

In other words, Pakistanis have got the Saudi Govt to thank for bailing them out.
 

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How are they paying taxed when they are facing losses from the past 4 years .. who are they trying to fool ?
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Are they fooling? please, explain in more than one line!
 
PIA's loss is also decreased because of high rising fare. The normal one way ticket from Lahore to London is usually between 42,000 rupees to 55,000 rupees. Few days ago it was close to 100,000 rupees. There are not many Airlines operating from Pakistan so raising the fare give them the advantage of being lone competitor.

I know it's a peak time and also they can't keep the prices so high so they will have to adjust it in the future. Once the prices are normalised i am not sure if we will be able to maintain these profits. I still wish them a best of luck. If PIA can just recover its losses and not asking for more money from the government, we are happy for now.

imiakhtar said:
It appears my skepticism was well founded. Had it not been for the exchange gain of 5.6B, PIA's losses would have been far greater. So much for the turn around :tdown:.

In other words, Pakistanis have got the Saudi Govt to thank for bailing them out.
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Did you notice only half billion rupees change in the fuel cost. The price of fuel is almost same or slightly cheaper as compared to 2013. If the price had skyrocketed, we would have incurred losses.

Exchange gain is not only the advantage for us, its for most nations. Just last week Panasonic and Sony posted a net profit in billions. Panasonic alone posted a net profit of about 1.5 billion dollars compared to last year's loss of 7.5 billion dollars due to exchange gain. So stabilising rupee will be great to turn PIA into a profitable organisation.
 
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