Pakistan only for takfiris?

[W.11]

the slogan was used when pakistan army or establishment tried to break MQM by making factions like MQM haqiqi etc, it tried to break MQM by steering internal disputes

it tried to buy MQM by sending briefcases full of cash and wen it didn't work it started killing innocent people

who was killing people on the streets than it wasn't MQM, infact MQM didn't kill one pak army guy but pak army killed many innocent people using street thuggery

the way MQM has survived the three times fauji operation on them and extra judicial killings etc, it is nothing less than a miracle, so please try to understand some matters before knee jerk comments

talibans have also been created by none other then the so called patriotic sons of the soil who wanted afghanistan to be their strategic depth

this thread is also not for MQM

the ghaddar word was used for people like afaq ahmed etc who tried to break MQM by the money of establishment

many people have left MQM, but MQM has never killed them by calling them ghaddar, the latest example is ex MQM MPA nadia gabol who recently left to join PPP

 

[Dubious]

the slogan was used when pakistan army or establishment tried to break MQM by making factions like MQM haqiqi etc, it tried to break MQM by steering internal disputes

it tried to buy MQM by sending briefcases full of cash and wen it didn't work it started killing innocent people

who was killing people on the streets than it wasn't MQM, infact MQM didn't kill one pak army guy but pak army killed many innocent people using street thuggery

the way MQM has survived the three times fauji operation on them and extra judicial killings etc, it is nothing less than a miracle, so please try to understand some matters before knee jerk comments

talibans have also been created by none other then the so called patriotic sons of the soil who wanted afghanistan to be their strategic depth

this thread is also not for MQM

the ghaddar word was used for people like afaq ahmed etc who tried to break MQM by the money of establishment

many people have left MQM, but MQM has never killed them by calling them ghaddar, the latest example is ex MQM MPA nadia gabol who recently left to join PPP

Man sometimes you sound like Altaf Hussain You sure you are mid 20s not late 60s like that fatty deposit?

 

[W.11]

Man sometimes you sound like Altaf Hussain You sure you are mid 20s not late 60s like that fatty deposit?

u mean i am speaking a lie? if it is a lie then please point me out, if im not speaking a lie and what im speaking is truth and if MQM is speaking the truth, does tht make it a truth a lie?

 

[Dubious]

u mean i am speaking a lie? if it is a lie then please point me out, if im not speaking a lie and what im speaking is truth and if MQM is speaking the truth, does tht make it a truth a lie?

I dont know whose lying....But 1 thing for sure MQM ki apni greed ki waja say Karachi badnaam hora hai..

How many yrs MQM won in Karachi...and how far down has Karachi fallen speaks heaps itself

 

[W.11]

I dont know whose lying....But 1 thing for sure MQM ki apni greed ki waja say Karachi badnaam hora hai..

How many yrs MQM won in Karachi...and how far down has Karachi fallen speaks heaps itself

why you don't know if it is a lie or not, how can you prejudge it as a false propaganda? please check the facts and then you will come to know what im saying is that reality, and if it still doesn't open your eyes then how can i open your eyes

you should have seen karachi of 90s, today its million times better, people who have destroyed generations and made karachi hell for ten years are never een questioned why they did such a thing to karachi?

 

[Dubious]

why you don't know if it is a lie or not, how can you prejudge it as a false propaganda?

I never said it being true or false...All I said was you sound like Altaf Hussain...Do you mean he is false or a liar?

 

[BATMAN]

they are kharijis ie the Islamic fundamentalists who follow their own perverted version of Islam, they declared war on the Caliphate and were crushed, some argue that the the Taliban are also such among them, it is said they will continue to rise and be crushed till the end of time, you can google for further details...

How they (takfiris) become rulers of Pakistan, as the article suggest? I hope the writer is not reffering to Zardari or Sharif.
Taliban only ruled Afghanistan, and ex ISI chief's statements are quite open on it, as long his videos exist.

 

[banvanaxl]

I will try please bear with me
edited----
here is my closest translation. if someone thinks I fall short of a perfect one then please write the entire piece
IS Pakistan only for Takfiris?
writer: Nadeem Nusrat
Pakistan wasn't made for one particular ethnicity and sect of Muslims. it is established fact that it was made for all Muslims of sub continent regardless of their ethnicity and faith.
unfortunately right after the creation of Pakistan its boundaries were closed for the Indian Muslims and the 2 nation theory was sunk in the Arabian sea.
the Indian Muslims, followers of Same God & same Prophet Muhammad PBUH, were abandoned at the mercy of the same Hindu majority against whom the Pakistani movement was launched to avoid its domination.
its a tragedy that even complaining and protesting against such injustice is construed as treason in Pakistan. when Pakistan came into being then in the same decade dozen of other states also came into being on the world map.
some adopted cricket as their national sport and some hockey and football.... but Pakistani leaders picked up the hobby of issuing treason and heresy declarations. first the Bengali Muslims were denied their right and their demands were termed as treason and instead of giving them their just right, the country was broken into two.
afterwords Ahmedis were declared non-Muslims and Shia were declared Kafir. yesterday Bacha Khan was declared Indian agent, today Baloch patriotism is under suspicion. ... and.. the Mohajirs who made the country are declared enemy of the state.
shia are kafir , Beralivi are heretics and tableeghi (preachers) people are non Takfiri.
A place which has the majority of people that are devotees of Sufi Muslim saints who spread the peace and love of Islam in the subcontinent has seen the tombs of such saints reduced to rubble through bombings.
in Lahore Data Gunj Bkhsh, in Pak patan Baba Farid's tample in Karachi Abdullah Ghazi's tomb, in Peshawar Rehman Baba's tomb .. all were destoryed in bombing attacks, in tribal areas many such tombs of famous saints were desecrated. their bodies exhumed and desecrated. today people who visit tombs are seen with suspicion as non-muslims and are butchered in the style of Mongol horde.
today, mourning the martyrdom of Prophet's grandson is considered un-Islamic. celebrating the birth of Muhammad PBUH is considered heresy. and having devotional gatherings to express praise and love to Allah & Muhammad PBUH is considered Hindu rituals.
the Takfiri horde loiter in the country unchallenged and those who oppose them are massacred,
nothing is safe from these takfiris, no mosques, no imam bargahs no Ahemdi worship places, no graveyards , no jamat khanas no Hindu temples no Christian Churches. every single sect, religion and its sacred places are under attack but the leadership is un-phased.
if Pakistan is only safe and viable for the takfiris and having a different faith, religion and belief is considered a sin and a crime then people deserve the right to know where should they go?
it is high time that all those Pakistanis who respect humanity get their act together and unify for their own survival
otherwise no one will be safe from these armed takfiris. no sect,no mosque no place of worship and no tomb of the saint will remain intact.
Sunnis would be no more and nor would be shia and Beralvis neither Beralvis nor Ahmedis.., Islamilis nor Hindus, Sikh and Christians.
only the tyranny of these armed takfiris will reign supreme and all others will have their heads chopped off into the pile of skulls.

Thank you sir. That was a beautiful article and I in my own way grieve with you. We share some of the same issues that divide us. The scourge of casteism is still very much prevalent in pockets of our country and much blood is shed in its name.

Thank you again.

 

[BATMAN]

Fat Kasmiri Butts are kaffir too
I love issuing fatwas, that's the favourite pakistani pass time

Beautifull piece of poetry , this is going in my signature

Actually the favorite past time of people in Pakistan is to call other Kafir, and blame the victim of doing it.
There is not a thread, where it is not done....article in OP is one example.
We have a sect. in Pakistan, who curse fellow Pakistani Muslims, in their regular prayers and have the audacity to cry of being victim.
Height of ignorance on one part and hypocracy on the other.

In the end, if i recall from living memory i only know, terrorists being termed as kafir and never read a single news about fatwa against any one else!
Why only on this forum, we are forced to believe that out there in Pakistani streets, people are calling each other Kafir? may be out of some individual act one may ask 'oye kafir ka bacha' but this does not mean a international fatwa.
or may be i missed some thing? any evidence from the TT / mods making stupid comments all over!!!!!!!

 

[TruthSeeker]

Is believing in the finality of the Prophethood (i.e. Muhammed as the absolute last prophet) a necessary belief to be a Muslim? Muslims believe that Allah could never, ever send us another prophet?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Is believing in the finality of the Prophethood (i.e. Muhammed as the absolute last prophet) a necessary belief to be a Muslim? Muslims believe that Allah could never, ever send us another prophet?

I would phrase is differently, Allah would never send another prophet...
yes Islamic faith is about the Muhammad PBUH being the final and last prophet and it forms the essential part of the prefix of the oneness of God as a Qalima (recitation). Quran being the final book and Muhammad PBUH being the last prophet till the judgement day is what thought by Muhammad PBUH.

I must add though, Muslims also believe in the final battle between good and evil and the spawn of Anti Christ (Dajjal) and Jesus Christ coming back & fighting him and defeating him and praying behind Imam Mahdi

We have a sect. in Pakistan, who curse fellow Pakistani Muslims, in their regular prayers and have the audacity to cry of being victim.
Height of ignorance on one part and hypocracy on the other.

No no
they dont cry, they celebrate actually and upload beheading videos, they do cry over lal masjid operation but thats it .. they have made the entire nation cry now and just protest about drone strikes and consider Taliban and LeJ real Muslims as a prophecy of some Muslim army that will spill the blood of unbelievers.

 

[SQ8]

Haiiin ? I thought your Grandpa's name ended in Ansari something !

Your thread from a few years back (that was bumped by an Indian poster recently) said something to that effect !

Nope. We have Ansari relatives.. but that was old PAF hands.