Pakistan of 1960s When Ayub Met JFK

[RiazHaq]

Haq's Musings: When Ayub Met JFK 50 Years Ago..

I was a little child growing up in Karachi when the news of JFK's assassination was received with great shock and extreme sorrow in Pakistan. That was 50 years ago today. Just a couple years earlier in 1961, Pakistan's President Mohammad Ayub Khan had made a successful state visit to the United States. He was warmly received at Andrews Air Force Base near Washington DC by US President John F. Kennedy and First Lady Mrs. Jacqueline Kennedy.

President John F. Kennedy and Jackie Kennedy receiving President Ayub Khan
I saw the pictures of President Ayub Khan meeting with the US President John F. Kennedy as did other Pakistanis. There were also many photographs of young JFK and his beautiful family splashed across the front pages of major Pakistani newspapers during and after the visit. The sudden loss of the young American president in 1963 was keenly felt as Pakistanis viewed images of his beautiful young widow and two little children mourning for their loved one at his funeral.

US-Pakistan ties were extremely close in 1960s. President Ayub was extended the rare honor of being welcomed by the US President and the First Lady at the airport when the PIA airplane carrying him landed in the United States. He was also given the privilege of addressing a special Joint Session of the US Congress where he received standing ovation. Later, he rode an open top car in a ticker-tape parade in New York City with tens of thousands of Americans lining the parade route and cheering him.

US followed up the visit with a massive assistance program which helped bring about the Green Revolution in Pakistan. The world's largest continuous irrigation system was built along with huge dams with US aid in 1960s. In addition, there was a major industrialization program started under state-owned Pakistan Industrial Development Corporation (PIDC) with US help.

Here's how Pakistani economist Dr. Ishrat Husain recalls Pakistan of 1960s:

"The manufacturing sector expanded by 9 percent annually and various new industries were set up. Agriculture grew at a respectable rate of 4 percent with the introduction of Green Revolution technology. Governance improved with a major expansion in the government’s capacity for policy analysis, design and implementation, as well as the far-reaching process of institution building. The Pakistani polity evolved from what political scientists called a “soft state” to a “developmental” one that had acquired the semblance of political legitimacy. By 1969, Pakistan’s manufactured exports were higher than the exports of Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia combined. Though speculative, it is possible that, had the economic policies and programs of the Ayub regime continued over the next two decades, Pakistan would have emerged as another miracle economy."

The decade of 1960s is called by economists as Pakistan's Golden Sixties. It was the result of good governance and significant help from the United States at the height of Cold War.

Both US and Pakistan still have close ties but these are marked by significant mutual distrust. People of goodwill on both sides can help reduce some of this mistrust to improve relations. President Kennedy said in his 1961 inaugural address: "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country". It is still as applicable to both US and Pakistan today as it was when he said it.

Here's a video of President Ayub Khan's 1961 visit to the United States:

Haq's Musings: When Ayub Met JFK 50 Years Ago..

 

[nForce]

A dynamic personality indeed, something expected from Sandhurst-trained soldier who went on to become a General and finally the head of the state.His actions brought great prosperity to Pakistan.

My opinion is, his outlook was more liberal in comparison to what followed next.You will notice that the General's daughter had chosen to wear a Saree in almost all the occasions, which is, though a traditional dress in the subcontinent but its use has gradually faded in Pakistan up to a great extent.Probably a Saree has been identified more as a Hindu dress in the later years.

 

[airmarshal]

Its not a coincidence that whenever a General has led Pakistan, the country has prospered. Its because Generals are usually more patriotic and their prime focus is on governance.

At the time of Ayub, Zia and Musharraf, the country has prospered and also its stock in the world gone up. The reason being when country gains internal strength, it gains respect too.

 

[nForce]

Its not a coincidence that whenever a General has led Pakistan, the country has prospered. Its because Generals are usually more patriotic and their prime focus is on governance.

At the time of Ayub, Zia and Musharraf, the country has prospered and also its stock in the world gone up. The reason being when country gains internal strength, it gains respect too.

I would beg to differ here.While you are correct in pointing out that the country has prospered after a military coup, but then that is specific to Pakistan only.And why did that happen? Because the military dictators would think about strengthening the military first, and will go to US for military and other forms of aid.The US will gladly help them with aids as they want a foothold in the subcontinent and definitely India is not that option because of its sovereign policies since its inception.

It is also easier for the US to control a military dictator than a civilian govt because the power is in the hand of a single person.But the US has vested interests here.Ayub Khan was necessary for CENTO, Zia ul Haq was necessary for Anti-Soviet campaign in Afghanistan and Pervez Musharraf was necessary to destroy the same elements that were created by the US with the help of the previous dictator!!What a classic turnaround!!But Pakistan bled nonetheless...

You see, the problem with this dictators is, they are unstable, sold-out, unable to comprehend the bigger picture in the longer run and the abrupt spikes in prosperity is simply short-lived.It is so, because the growth is not solid and you wont be able to sustain it once the aid channels are frozen.That is what has been happening with Pakistan and you still don't realize that?

It is like a junkie going high on marijuana, once the trip is over, you are back to square one.When he does not have marijuana, he is depressed, because he does not know how to cultivate it.

A bad example probably, but I hope you are getting the point here.You cannot run on aids for ever, you need to have a solid base of your own, which, all these dictators have failed to provide and hence they are all epitome of failures, dynamic and charismatic persons, all of them, I agree, but just not fit for the job.

 

[Magnum Opus]

I have the general impression that Pakistan folks are a get down to business type persons, so lets put that view to a test. Back in 1963, a Mason told me the real deal on what was the biggest faction behind the JFK hit. It was the Scottish Rite Masons of the South, which had a strong presence in the Oak Ridge National Security Establishment. They had ties to Dallas and New Orleans, and Tennessee Masons essentially won Texas from Mexico. Even the issue of the Lamar 8F gang in Houston was named for a Mason that was the Third President of the Republic of Texas. The Lamar 8F Masons were the very heart of the Mil / Ind network in the US. JFK went after some of the biggest Masons when he fired Mason Allan Dulles. JFK and RFK were going after Lamar 8F gang Bobby Baker and LBJ, which would pull down to whole 8F war machine quickly, and JFK would win the Peace Process. In the South, the Civil Rights movement had the Prince Hall Black Masons going hard against the Southern Sottish Rite Masons that took root in the times of the Civil War and Albert Pike. The very existence of the Prince Hall Masons is about segregation. Mason Hoover only gave the Mason Earl Warren's Commission only faked up evidence to support one shooter and that being LHO. Even the prime WC person Magic Bullet non-sense was designed by Mason Arlen Specter, and the bullet holes moved by Mason Gerald Ford. The Day before the JFK hit, a party at Mason Clint Murchison's house celebrated that Mason Hoover black-mail JFK to force LBJ onto the JFK ticket for president. When one reads and learns of the scurrilous hidden history of the Scottish Rite Masons on the issue of Abe Lincoln, one finds that history repeated itself in 1963, because of the long sustained power and cover-up of the Scottish Rite masons to control the use for the English Nobility. When you or anyone else admits this connection, then 9/10 of the JFK criminal issues are well exposed and the crime majorly solved. Isn't 50 years long enough to keep the American Public in the dark about the truth on the JFK hit? Looking forward to how PM handle the biggest secret on JFK truth seeking. imho

 

[Chak Bamu]

Whenever Generals come to power, they always leave a mess behind.

The first anti-democratic character in Pakistan's history was a senior civil servant by the name of Ghulam Muhammad. Somehow he became Governor General and wasted a number of years of our (then) young country by useless political games. He was removed and we had Gen. Sikandar Mirza, who in turn was cut out of power by Gen. Ayub Khan. When Ayub's time came to an end, he left the country to the whims of Yahya Khan.

So, one can see that each succeeding person was worse than his predecessor. This what non-democratic forces do: promote cronies and yes-men at the expense of merit, promote a personality cult at the expense of systems and institutions. After getting rid of seasoned politicians who, naturally, are competitors for power, these dictators promote unsavory and unscruplous characters. These people then inherit power after the dictators. Thus we had Bhutto, the set of NS & BB, and Zardari after each dictator. Funny thing is that many people (as a result) get so fixated upon personalities instead of democratic process, that they curse Bhutto, but forget that it was Ayub who indirectly left him power; they curse Zardari, but forget that Musharraf left him in power. That is the triumph of dictatorship - to make people blind to the process and very much focused on personalities.

It is amazing that people still talk about the glitter of Ayub's years, but forget his blunders and his legacy.

Ayub was so patriotic that he would have over-thrown M. A. Jinnah, had our Quaid-e-Azam lived long enough. Yeah, so Patriotism is a great excuse for rogues.

 

[Magnum Opus]

How did JFK get marked for death in Dallas---All the Kings men fall down

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• If you really want to find the ultimate clues-----note that JFK hater Curtis LeMay was a Mason, so was Bronfman in Canada---allied with Louis Bloomfield and Hoover. HL Hunt had both LeMay and Mason George Wallace down to Texas to declare them to run against JFK only about a week before JFK gets gunned down in Dallas.
  
  
  
  
  
• Incidentally, the JFK hit happened almost right on top of the site of the first Mason temple in Dallas. Dealy Plaza and Dealy himself was a Mason Also, Tennessee and Texas have a very special connection----both began from Masons. Tennessee----the state of Franklin---as in Mason Ben Franklin. First Gov was Mason John Sevier. Tennessean Masons spread to Texas via Sam Houston, Davy Crockett, and others at the Alamo. All Republic of Texas Presidents were Masons. The Oak Ridge Manhattan Project was stuffed with Masons, so was NASA. Mason astronauts took great enthusiasm in calling Houston from the Moon, where they had Mason flag, et al, to claim that for Masons.
  
  Oak Ridge was helping Lee Oswald and the Mason Bannister gang in New Orleans run a hit against Castro, using radiation and cancer virus. LHO had the score on them, meaning Oak Ridge Masons were in big big trouble. So, JFK and LHO both had to die. Oak Ridge issued the JFK kill order after the Bannister gang failed to take out Castro.
  
  
• What few take note of in the JFK hit, is that is was organized and run by Masons that all hated JFK and centered in the Southern Scottish Rite Masons. All the Scottish Rite Masons already hated JFK over Civil Rights. Scottish Rite Masons hated JFK just as Churchill hated FDR over the 4 Freedoms plan to kill England's Imperialism efforts using money and corporations. FDR was going to put England under international controls.
  
  HL Hunt and Morris Jaffe (Bobby Baker's money man replacement who got tons of money from Mason USAEC on fake uranium deals) used that money to bank role LBJ. Mason Hoover supplied all the black-mail material. Mason Hoover and Mason Murchison were tight and Hoover took lots of Murchison money per Del Mar and oil wells.
  
  The Mason leader of the HL Hunt gang was Clint Murchison, and the place were the Masons met the night before to celebrate JFK was going to be killed. When the kill Castro plan out of Oak Ridge failed, the Mason Banister gang in New Orleans handed off Lee Oswald to the Mason Murchison gang around Dallas.
  
  
• When the killing went down, one shooter was place in the Dal-Tex building at the HL Hunt and Morris Jaffe fake uranium enterprise, so the Masons knew they could control them or the Masons could have them hung. Hoover gets the FBI to yank HL Hunt out of Dallas before he screamed murder over his being exposed as part of the LBJ gang.
  
  LBJ doesn't get in the floor board of his Limo when it turns onto Houston Street, as he ducks when his car gets close to the Dal-Tex shooting position. As soon as LBJ's car turned onto Houstaon, the cars were in firing lines from TSBD. LBJ feared the Dal-Tex firing positions.
  
  
• Oak Ridge's Y-12 had CIA document access due to their many Masons and the CIA office of counter proliferation there. Oak Ridge knew exactly what the CIA was doing in Project Moongoose to knock off Castro, and they started a plan of their own using Alton Oshner, HL Hunt, et al. These Masons were allied with 33rd Mason George Mandel,of PERMINDEX, who was trying to knock of De Gaulle in France over Algeria and Dimona nuclear plant. PERMINDEX was allied with Louis Bloomfield/DISC, and Hoover.
  
  These Masons technically were behind a hit planned on Castro that operated outside of the formal CIA, and the linkage was CIA's Mason Dulles and others.
  
  LHO was technically working for that gang of CIA Masons to attempt to kill Castro. Mason Banister kept LHO funded. When LHO went to Russia, he was more working with the gang of Masons to kill the Khrushchev and Eisenhower peace plans.
  
  Since LHO had highly infiltrated the Masons in New Orleans, the Hunt Mason connected gang in Dallas, and LHO was even up in Montreal, the Masons knew LHO had to die with JFK.
  
  
• JFK was after Bobby Baker and LBJ over the killings and financial swindles, and both of them were part of the Lamar 8F gang in Houston, which was the heart of the Mason backed Military Industrial Network.
  
  Once JFK knocked off Bobby Baker and LBJ in the criminal probe, next came HL Hunt and Morris Jaffe, then Mason Clint Murchison and Mason Hoover, then the Mason Banister working with Mason Hoover in New Orleans, then Mason filled Y-12 being a Mason backed Dulles and LeMay operation. One of Y-12 gang went to school with Jack Ruby, Moved to Dallas the same time as Ruby, and Ruby was an LBJ man. That person is the one that Mason insiders at Y-12 tell turned the tide to kill JFK.
  
  Mason Curtis LeMay was making Y-12 rich building nuclear bombs which LeMay needed to bomb Russia for a final show-down. Y-12 was backing Mason LeMay. Y-12 ordered the JFK hit.
  
  Those are the important lines to connect for what group was behind the plan to kill JFK and how it came to be.
  
  
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[Umair Nawaz]

JFK is the only American President abt whom every Pakistani's opinion is positive. Rest were just doucebags.

 

[Magnum Opus]

I can well understand why. JFK knew much of the things FDR realized about the Imperialism via the East India Company that held India back and took all their resources. They realized the issues of the Sassoon Drug empire that held China back.

JFK was determined to have a rising tide lift the world's boats.

JFK was one of the brightest US Presidents since Thomas Jefferson.

No doubt that all the Pakistan People saw that easily.

 

[Magnum Opus]

Some of the inner secrets for why the Atomic Bomb Masons feared a Catholic President and prepped to kill him, if he learned too much about how Masons killed Catholics seeking Peace for Japan and how JFK's Catholic friend Jim Forrestal was involved as the Sec of Navy for FDR.

Perhaps it is a good time to wonder why the St Mary's Catholic Church statue for Mary in the Garden prays toward Mason controlled nuclear plants in Oak Ridge: Why were Hiroshima and Nagasaki chosen?

The Mason controlled Manhattan Project picked the two Japan Cities with the most Catholics to bomb, as Catholics were involved in seeking Peace and surrender by the Japanese. Catholic James Forrestal led this effort, but was trampled by the Mason extremism.

Google these terms to learn more:

Our Lady of Fatima's
Protective Shield
and
The Two Atomic Bombs
Dropped on Japan in 1945

There is more of how the Japan Cities held in reserve to demonstrate the bomb chose the most Catholic Japan cities, and these things would be known to JFK and have him turn against the Nuke Weapons and the Mason management at various levels of the US Govt. Masons included extremists like Curtis LeMay, whose fire bombing of Japan made the atomic bomb pale in comparison.

Google these search terms to discover part of how Hiroshima and Nagasaki were picked because of Catholic involvements that went against Masons:


Nagasaki, the City of the Atomic Bomb – And of the Christian Martyrs

The Youtube has a good video of this Mason hate for Catholic via the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki:

Google this video's terms to see it:


Masonic Connection with the JFK Assassination

 

[Magnum Opus]

Another interesting Youtube video that reveals the Mason hate for Catholics and JFK is found via these search terms:


JFK Assassination - Mason Connection

 

[PlanetWarrior]

Another thread turned into a hotbed of conspiracy theories. Seems like conspiracy theories was the first thing the Yanks managed to successfully export to Pakistan

 

[Magnum Opus]

.The real story differs from what some propose. Basically, the Japan war was so over that FDR was going to direct US to take over Hong Kong, Vietnam, Algeria and other Colonies and render them free choice via his Four Freedom's plans. FDR was going to put England under International Control to keep down their Imperialism, which is now well out of control.

Japan was so whipped they were seeking surrender and the US could dictate the terms.

More good insight is provided by google search for:

Institute for Historical Review Was Hiroshima Necessary? Why the Atomic Bombings Could Have Been Avoided.

 

[Sugarcane]

I wish that idiot would have gone to USSR rather than US

 

[Magnum Opus]

I don't think this is theory, but it is a well proven history of the US and how it was taken over from within:

Even more information can be seen via google of these top terms:

The real history matters more than the parroting of those that corrupted the truth:

HARRY S. TRUMAN
War Criminal
WAR CRIMINAL
MASS MURDERS

I am Become Death, Destroyer of Worlds

"It is my opinion that the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were almost defeated and ready to surrender...in being the first to use it, we...adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Ages."
---Fleet Admiral William D. Leahy,
Chair of the Joint Chiefs

And for more on the James Forrestal Catholic involvement we have an excellent first hand reference:

Google these terms: How We Bungled the Japanese Surrender
Look Magazine, June 6, 1950
By Rear Admiral Ellis M. Zacharias, USN (Ret.)
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More of the Catholic Vs Masons deals for Japan, and Catholic Ideals Vs Mason Ideals post-war:

The Pope almost negotiated Japan's Surrender, and FDR was somewhat on board. But, no way were the English or Truman's Imperial Masons going to go along with Pope leading the peace plans. More reasons to target Catholic operations in Japan.

James Forrestal was a Catholic and was Sec of Navy under FDR. He was also a good friend of JFK. The DOE HQ building in DC is named for Forrestal.

FDR is well known to have gotten Catholic Joe Kennedy to battle the English Banker Masons that caused the stock market crash issues, and FDR often sought to have Catholic control Imperialism interests.

James Forrestal also encounters the Mason Temple makers when he became Sec. of Defense. Forrestal opposed Israel's creation. Harry "Solomon" Truman saw an occasion for a Temple as a Mason. Forrestal wanted Integration of the troops, which the Masons hated.

The Mason Harry S. Truman was not the quality of Mason that FDR was in holding back England's Imperialism interests. Harry Truman rubber stamped all the corrupt Mason wants for Imperialism.

So, via FDR the Catholic leadership had the early way to end the Japan war, and because Forrestal was a Catholic competing in a Mason Truman dominated White House control, he did not fare well. Much as to why JFK did not fare well going against Masons Dulles, Hoover, Murchison, and Banister. There we find Catholics in David Ferry and LHO, both get murdered.

Thus, two principle Japan Cities with the largest number of Catholics were Nuked, and Forrestal noticed issues of Masons battling Catholic idea and leadership.

Most consider that Forrestal was murdered in the same manner that Meyer Lansky killed many NAZIs, which was pushing them out windows.

So lets see how some complaign this time as more anti-Catholic news connected with Masons leaks out.. And there is more substance for the symbolism connected the the Catholic Statue that faces a Mason managed nuclear weapons plant.

The same Mason secrecy that covers up these Catholic Vs Mason issues in the take over of the US from within, are the same sinister elements involved in allowing huge number of workers to be exposed to toxic chemicals (like Hydrogen Fluoride), toxic metals (Mercury, Uranium), and various sources of radiation that did slow long term harm to their health and longevity.

Too many times, the Mason management in Oak Ridge have suppressed the real truths and history, which has not been good for Americans in Oak Ridge or those of the country as a whole. This because many Masons have loyalty to the English based Imperialism games to which the Scottish Rite was designed to indoctrinate them into.

As such the sinister side of Masons backing Churchill's gang killed FDR, went on to kill FDR's agent Forrestal, went on to attempt to control all issues of Communism via Mason Murchison in Texas, and wound up going after JFK as a Communist, then MLK, then RFK. Such is the real story of how the US has been taken from within and its citizens being used and abused by those that keep these sinister secrets called Masons.

Masons lost the values of the Founding Fathers and those that FDR wanted to install, and replaced those values with wants of money and power rather than Freedom and Independence for Americans.

Masons claim they want to build better men, but all they accomplished in Oak Ridge was management by deceit and treachery that harmed workers and the town. On the larger scale it is the take over of the US from within that values more English Imperialism than the Declaration of Independence values of Freedom and Independence from corrupted religions and Imperialism tyranny,