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I watched on TV that indian PM Modi is consulting with his leagal team to break the 57 years old Indus water treaty with Pakistan.

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Incase India violates Indus water treaty, Pakistan must once again seek help from our time tested all weather friend China to get water from the rivers originating in China: Indus, Barhamputtra & Ganga. Today flowing into India from China.

Pakistan and China has to build some sort of tunnel/man made channel to transport river water flowing into India from China to Pakistan so Pakistan isn't made desert.

Indus, Barhamputra, Yamna, Ganga rivers water must be part of Pakistan China Economic Corridor, CPEC.


Approximately 36% of Indian rivers water flow in from China to India, this must be diverted towards Pakistan if Modi breaks the Indus water treaty.

Pakistani government must urgently consult with our friend, the Chinese government on this matter.

Before implementing our backup Chinese plan, Pakistan must try to get help from UN, World Bank, EU and USA, as its against humanity to deprive citizens of Pakistan their main water source.


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Pakistan must intensify liberation of Kashmir if India violates Indus water treaty. Since 1990's government of Pakistan have backed off from Kashmir issue, but its time to activate this struggle again. Start with blowing away the fence at LOC.

PM Modi is more and more reminding me about Hitler. As he has evil soul.

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Pakistan must declare war on India, as Pakistan has no other option. World opinion will be on Pakistani side if India deprive pakistani river water. Pakistan army must start preparing fora decisive war with India. Pakistan should start recruiting soldiers and purchase forPakistan army, with in mind that this time we are going for a decisive war with India. Build as many nukes as possible.

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Pak army has to end indian occupation of Siachen, as this area is the biggest water resource in South Asia.
 
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We should definitely seek all kinds of assistance to quell this Indian bullying. If anything we should do some kind of underground drilling to channel the water back into Pakistan under the bharatis noses.
 
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I watched on TV that indian PM Modi is consulting with his leagal team about breaking the 57 years old Indus water treaty.

Incase India violates Indus water treaty, Pakistan must once again seek help from our time tested all weather friend China to get water from the rivers originating in China: Indus, Barhamputtra, Yamna and Ganga.

Pakistan and China has to build some sort of tunnel/man made channel to transport river water flowing into India from China to Pakistan so Pakistan isn't made desert.

Approximately 36% of Indian rivers water flow in from China to India, this must be diverted towards Pakistan if Modi breaks the Indus water treaty.

Pakistani government must urgently consult with our friends, the Chinese government on this matter.

Before implementing our backup Chinese plan, Pakistan must try to get help from UN, World Bank, EU and USA, as its against humanity to deprive citizens of Pakistan their main water source.


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Pakistan must intensify liberation of Kashmir if India violates Indus water treaty. Since 1990's government of Pakistan have backed off from Kashmir issue, but its time to activate this struggle again. Start with blowing away the fence at LOC.

PM Modi is more and more reminding me about Hitler. As he has evil soul.

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Pakistan must declare war on India, as Pakistan has no other option. World opinion will be on Pakistani side if India deprive pakistani river water.

ask your friends Turkey and China how much they respect the rights of lower riperian states
 
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Onus on Islamabad

What China did recently — publicly trash an arbitral tribunal ruling that found it has no legal or historical basis to claim most of the South China Sea — was not an isolated case: major powers rarely go for international arbitration or accept arbitral tribunal awards.

Pakistan, by waging a constant propaganda battle against India on the waters issue, risks undermining the Indus treaty. And by repeatedly invoking the treaty’s conflict-resolution provisions to bring on international intercession, it risks sending the wrong message to India — that compliance with treaty obligations and arbitration decisions is counterproductive. In the absence of an enforcement mechanism in international law, nothing can stop India from emulating the example of the major powers.

Pakistan insists on rights without responsibilities. In fact, its use of state-reared terrorist groups can be invoked by India, under Article 62 of the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, as constituting reasonable grounds for withdrawal from the Indus treaty. The International Court of Justice has upheld the principle that a treaty may be dissolved by reason of a fundamental change of circumstances.

If Pakistan wishes to preserve the Indus treaty, despite its diminishing returns for India, it will have to strike a balance between its right to keep utilising the bulk of the river system’s waters and a corresponding obligation (enshrined in international law) not to cause “palpable harm” to its co-riparian state by exporting terror.

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-...-securing-the-indus-treaty/article8943790.ece
 
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Onus on Islamabad

What China did recently — publicly trash an arbitral tribunal ruling that found it has no legal or historical basis to claim most of the South China Sea — was not an isolated case: major powers rarely go for international arbitration or accept arbitral tribunal awards.

Pakistan, by waging a constant propaganda battle against India on the waters issue, risks undermining the Indus treaty. And by repeatedly invoking the treaty’s conflict-resolution provisions to bring on international intercession, it risks sending the wrong message to India — that compliance with treaty obligations and arbitration decisions is counterproductive. In the absence of an enforcement mechanism in international law, nothing can stop India from emulating the example of the major powers.

Pakistan insists on rights without responsibilities. In fact, its use of state-reared terrorist groups can be invoked by India, under Article 62 of the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, as constituting reasonable grounds for withdrawal from the Indus treaty. The International Court of Justice has upheld the principle that a treaty may be dissolved by reason of a fundamental change of circumstances.

If Pakistan wishes to preserve the Indus treaty, despite its diminishing returns for India, it will have to strike a balance between its right to keep utilising the bulk of the river system’s waters and a corresponding obligation (enshrined in international law) not to cause “palpable harm” to its co-riparian state by exporting terror.

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-...-securing-the-indus-treaty/article8943790.ece

The Hindu newspaper has ties to the secular establishment. They are not pro-BJP. When they are rising the IWT Pakistan must pay attention.
 
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Tunnel? Why dont a overbridge with pumps to Pakistan? :lol: Pakistani level of delusion has no bounds...

And what u will ask China to do? Do the tunneling for free? Have any idea how it will costs?

I am all for any indirect ways to bring Pakistan to behave. We dont even need to scrap IWT. Just divert 3 rivers fully and use the 20% Indus water and its enough to make u guys Panic. Ungrateful guys.
 
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China is currently undergoing the largest engineering project in human history, our South-North Water Diversion project.

Compared to that, diverting the Indus River should be much easier because it won't need thousands of kilometres. The terrain is much tougher though.
 
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Tunnel? Why dont a overbridge with pumps to Pakistan? :lol: Pakistani level of delusion has no bounds...

And what u will ask China to do? Do the tunneling for free? Have any idea how it will costs?

I am all for any indirect ways to bring Pakistan to behave. We dont even need to scrap IWT. Just divert 3 rivers fully and use the 20% Indus water and its enough to make u guys Panic. Ungrateful guys.
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Ungrateful????


India have occupied jammu & Kashmir, you guys voilated partition agreements of 1947 by occupying jammu & Kashmir, an area with 90% muslim population, an area which was going to join Pakistan. And you say Ungrateful. Hello Its pakistani area illigaly occupied by you, its ours.
 
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As unlikely as it is to go through with such a stupid move, I can't even begin to tell you the issues that India would run into, if it decided to stop the flow of water into Pakistan; Such an event could potentially (no matter how unlikely) force a war between the two, as Pakistan's very survival would be threatened; The more likely scenario would be, China would very much get involved, as its plans for the region would be heavily threatened. It could very well assist Pakistan in starting to divert the flow of water to Pakistan directly, though this would run into just as much trouble as India blocking the flow of river to Pakistan.

If anyone from the Indian government ever reads this, I would ask them not to play these dangerous games.

If anyone from the Pakistani government ever reads this, start working towards making Pakistan 'water secure'. Pakistan cannot continue to stay in a paranoid state, when it comes to this issue. It is costing Pakistan's economy, and slowing down its growth. A water secure Pakistan would be far better off both economically and militarily.
 
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So India have these options:

Adhere to treaty and keep status quo at the very least.

Don't adhere to treaty and nearer the time water is running dry explode in a nuclear fireball. :lol::lol:

Modi is failing again I see. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

India needs the sane head of Rahul Ghandi or that AAP dalit whatever his name is.
 
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So India have these options:

Adhere to treaty and keep status quo at the very least.

Don't adhere to treaty and nearer the time water is running dry explode in a nuclear fireball. :lol::lol:

Modi is failing again I see. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

India needs the sane head of Rahul Ghandi or that AAP dalit whatever his name is.

Dayyuumm thats so scary.. !!
 
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Let them divert first its not easy...
Beeaking world bank brokered and guaranteed agreement will lead to UN sanction...

Give it few days....its another surgicalstrike story...
 
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Indians were talking about three targets after the Uri incident. Could it be that the unilateral scrapping of the Indus Treaty and the attack on the Pakistani border post from Afghanistan the first two targets they were talking about? If so what could be the next target?
 
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Ungrateful????


India have occupied jammu & Kashmir, you guys voilated partition agreements of 1947 by occupying jammu & Kashmir, an area with 90% muslim population, an area which was going to join Pakistan. And you say Ungrateful. Hello Its pakistani area illigaly occupied by you, its ours.

Kashmir was never 90% Muslim. It was at best 75% till 1990 riots.
The Ungrateful comments refer to one of the most graceful water treaty in this world. No Country would have agreed to such terms with an enemy country. China will never do. Even US never does that.

And we did that with brotherhood wish, considering it happened in 1960's. Idiot Nehru thought selling India's right will buy peace with Pakistan. But what Pakistan did? With IWT in its kitty it proceeded to do war upon India. Sheer betrayal. And again in 1999 when Vajpayee was welcoming Pakistan with open hands and peace was in the valley.

Its called ungrateful. Second there is nothing called Pakistani area over there. Its an area legally signed by Kashmir Maharaja. The plebiscite was halted by the idiotic Pathan tribal invasion. And UN resolution clearly states Pakistan withdraw from LoC, and then after 2 years an plebiscite will be held. That ruling was in 1948 which was replaced by Shimla agreement of 1972. Everything is legal now. Ungrateful peoples.
 
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