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From Stars & Stripes ancd Naval open source Intelligence
U.S. to transfer frigate to Pakistan navy
By Lisa M. Novak, Stars and Stripes
European edition, Friday, August 7, 2009
Courtesy of U.S. Navy
The USS McInerney is slated for transfer to Pakistan following decommissioning from the U.S. Navy next year. The transfer takes place through the Navys International Programs Office department of foreign military sales. Pakistan will add a new ship to its growing fleet next year. Well, not exactly new: The 30-year-old frigate USS McInerney, put on the Navys inactivation list last month, will fly the flag of Pakistan after retirement from the U.S. Navy next year.
The transfer of old Navy ships to other countries is done through the Navys International Programs Office, which brokers deals through its foreign military sales department.
I interact with global customers who want to buy Navy stuff, said Rear Adm. Steve Voetsch, director of the IPO. If you look at the world economy, youd think all the money would be gone ... The demand for U.S. stuff seems to be growing internationally. They know we make good stuff and back our stuff.
That demand, in many cases, is backed by U.S. dollars.
Poorer countries such as Pakistan can be granted U.S. ships no longer in commission. Any needed repairs or alterations are paid for with foreign military aid provided by the U.S. But there is a catch: Recipients of the aid money must buy American.
The Navys foreign military sales department brokers contracts with U.S. companies for any work done on the ship prior to transfer.
The program can be seen as a variation on checkbook diplomacy that puts money into the pockets of U.S. military contractors and bolsters the fleets of smaller allied countries willing to help with the U.S. global mission.
Its a strategy that works toward realizing Adm. Mike Mullens thousand-ship navy between the U.S. and its allies, Voetsch said.
Mullen, now chairman of the Joint Chiefs, coined the phrase a few years ago when he was serving as chief of naval operations. The idea is that governments and international organizations could create an ad-hoc 1,000-ship global fleet, all dedicated to achieving mutual goals such as maintaining secure shipping lanes throughout the world.
Once transferred to Pakistan, the ship will join Combined Task Force 151, the multinational force aimed at fighting piracy in the troubled waters of the Gulf of Aden, Arabian Sea and Indian Ocean, Voetsch says.
The cost for refurbishments onboard the McInerney, which includes anti-submarine missile defenses and other weapons systems, is set at $65 million, according to several national and international media reports.
This is no cash for clunkers program. The ships are in usable condition.
We give it away while its still floating, Voetsch said. Its what we call a hot transfer.
Hot transfers are more cost-efficient because they occur right after a ship decommissions. Cold transfers take place long after a ship has been docked at a storage facility for any length of time.
Ship transfers involve policy decisions made by the State Department, Congress, the Navy and the Department of Defense.
Not all old Navy assets are up for grabs. Submarines, for example, are not eligible for transfer to foreign navies.
Over the past 10 years, the Navy has transferred 23 ships, including minesweepers, patrol craft and tugboats to other countries, including Greece, Turkey and Egypt and India.
U.S. to transfer frigate to Pakistan navy
By Lisa M. Novak, Stars and Stripes
European edition, Friday, August 7, 2009
Courtesy of U.S. Navy
The USS McInerney is slated for transfer to Pakistan following decommissioning from the U.S. Navy next year. The transfer takes place through the Navys International Programs Office department of foreign military sales. Pakistan will add a new ship to its growing fleet next year. Well, not exactly new: The 30-year-old frigate USS McInerney, put on the Navys inactivation list last month, will fly the flag of Pakistan after retirement from the U.S. Navy next year.
The transfer of old Navy ships to other countries is done through the Navys International Programs Office, which brokers deals through its foreign military sales department.
I interact with global customers who want to buy Navy stuff, said Rear Adm. Steve Voetsch, director of the IPO. If you look at the world economy, youd think all the money would be gone ... The demand for U.S. stuff seems to be growing internationally. They know we make good stuff and back our stuff.
That demand, in many cases, is backed by U.S. dollars.
Poorer countries such as Pakistan can be granted U.S. ships no longer in commission. Any needed repairs or alterations are paid for with foreign military aid provided by the U.S. But there is a catch: Recipients of the aid money must buy American.
The Navys foreign military sales department brokers contracts with U.S. companies for any work done on the ship prior to transfer.
The program can be seen as a variation on checkbook diplomacy that puts money into the pockets of U.S. military contractors and bolsters the fleets of smaller allied countries willing to help with the U.S. global mission.
Its a strategy that works toward realizing Adm. Mike Mullens thousand-ship navy between the U.S. and its allies, Voetsch said.
Mullen, now chairman of the Joint Chiefs, coined the phrase a few years ago when he was serving as chief of naval operations. The idea is that governments and international organizations could create an ad-hoc 1,000-ship global fleet, all dedicated to achieving mutual goals such as maintaining secure shipping lanes throughout the world.
Once transferred to Pakistan, the ship will join Combined Task Force 151, the multinational force aimed at fighting piracy in the troubled waters of the Gulf of Aden, Arabian Sea and Indian Ocean, Voetsch says.
The cost for refurbishments onboard the McInerney, which includes anti-submarine missile defenses and other weapons systems, is set at $65 million, according to several national and international media reports.
This is no cash for clunkers program. The ships are in usable condition.
We give it away while its still floating, Voetsch said. Its what we call a hot transfer.
Hot transfers are more cost-efficient because they occur right after a ship decommissions. Cold transfers take place long after a ship has been docked at a storage facility for any length of time.
Ship transfers involve policy decisions made by the State Department, Congress, the Navy and the Department of Defense.
Not all old Navy assets are up for grabs. Submarines, for example, are not eligible for transfer to foreign navies.
Over the past 10 years, the Navy has transferred 23 ships, including minesweepers, patrol craft and tugboats to other countries, including Greece, Turkey and Egypt and India.
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Muse the frigate itself is for FREE however we have to pay for the refurbishments.. once that is done then it will be clearly the best frigate in PN fleet and weapon wise surpassing Type-21 and F-22P by far.. its just freaking 65 million dollars! and oh not to forget that their is a huge possibility of fitting latest turkish systems on these frigates..
from the article, "Countries such as Pakistan can be granted US ships no longer in commission. The required repairs or alterations are paid for with US foreign military aid."
The US is eating the Coast. The PN gets a fully fiunctional warship for free. The OHP can fire a mix of 40 SAM/AshM's plus to ASW torpedo tubes.
The F-22P only carriers 16 missiles or ASROC rounds, although since it uses a VLS it can fire faster.
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F-22P does not have a VLS. It does have a conventional 8 round SAM launcher (which can be reloaded manually with additional missile rounds on board). It carries a total of 2x4=8 antiship missiles.
All Perry class ships currently operated by USN no longer have the ability to launch either SM1 or Harpoon due to removal of Mk13 launcher arm (USN no longer used SM1 only SM2). I suspect a fair chunk of the 65million dollars for getting the McInerney refurbished will be for reinstating that very ability.
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just one addition to your post.... i think PN will also leave SM1 or even SM2 and would rather go with Sea sparows? or RAM?
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I wouldn't be surprised if the ships would come with SM1, since PN has had some experience with SM1 equipped ships before: between 1988 and 1994 it operated 4 leased ex-USN Brooke class frigates (along with 4 similar but not SM1 equipped Garcia class frigates).
If not SM1, the alternative is not likely to be SM2 because this would definitely require modification and modernization of the fire control and combat systems. RIM-7 Sea sparrow is not an option imho (though you could place an Mk41with 8 or Mk48 with a slightly larger number e.g. 16). A mk 41 with 32 ESSM might be a better option in that case, but under the same condition as made with SM2. Most easy and in that sense likely 'fix' would be a 21-round RAM launcher and 2x4 Harpoon racks forward of the bridge.
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with full weapon sysrtem or just a ship and what is date and time pn will recieve
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There is no such thing as 'just a ship' as it is a warship, which wouldn't be a warship if it didn't have weaponsystems ....
McInerney retires from USN october 2010, so around that date (i'm not going to bother with time, given we're talking in terms of months and years rather than hours and minutes).
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A Pimped Out Perry For Pakistan
August 13, 2009: The U.S. is giving Pakistan a Perry class frigate which, after 30 years service in the U.S. Navy, is being retired. The frigate will undergo $65 million of refurbishment, and the addition of more anti-submarine capabilities, beforehand.
The Perry's are 4,100 ton ships that have a crew of 220 and are armed with a 76mm gun, six tubes for launching Mk 46 anti-submarine torpedoes, and a 20mm auto cannon as anti-missile defense. As built, the Perry's had a missile launcher for SM-1 anti-aircraft or Harpoon anti-ship missiles (from a 40 missile magazine), but these were removed from all U.S. Perrys in 2004. This was done because U.S. allies needed the dwindling supply of SM-1 missiles more than U.S. ships did. The SH-60 helicopters carried by the Perrys could still use their smaller Penguin anti-ship missiles.
The Perrys have air search radar and sonar, and cab carry two helicopters. Top speed is 55 kilometers an hour. If built today, the Perry's would cost about $300 million each. Pakistan plans to use its Perry class frigate for the anti-piracy patrol off Somalia.
August 13, 2009: The U.S. is giving Pakistan a Perry class frigate which, after 30 years service in the U.S. Navy, is being retired. The frigate will undergo $65 million of refurbishment, and the addition of more anti-submarine capabilities, beforehand.
The Perry's are 4,100 ton ships that have a crew of 220 and are armed with a 76mm gun, six tubes for launching Mk 46 anti-submarine torpedoes, and a 20mm auto cannon as anti-missile defense. As built, the Perry's had a missile launcher for SM-1 anti-aircraft or Harpoon anti-ship missiles (from a 40 missile magazine), but these were removed from all U.S. Perrys in 2004. This was done because U.S. allies needed the dwindling supply of SM-1 missiles more than U.S. ships did. The SH-60 helicopters carried by the Perrys could still use their smaller Penguin anti-ship missiles.
The Perrys have air search radar and sonar, and cab carry two helicopters. Top speed is 55 kilometers an hour. If built today, the Perry's would cost about $300 million each. Pakistan plans to use its Perry class frigate for the anti-piracy patrol off Somalia.
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these frigates will be used as stop gaps untill Turkish 4,000 tonne class TF-2000 is available. age does not matter.. IN still has alots of warships which are old but not capable as 65 million dollars OHP.
its only one thats it
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