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‘Genetic engineering’ in East Pakistan – The Express Tribune

‘Genetic engineering’ in East Pakistan


By Khaled AhmedPublished: July 7, 2012

The writer is Director South Asian Media School, Lahore khaled.ahmed@tribune.com.pk

Pakistan’s name has been blackened by just one man: General AAK ‘Tiger’ Niazi. According to a new book by Oxford University Press, he is supposed to have pronounced the words that even Genghis Khan would have hesitated to use: that he would let loose his soldiers on the women of East Pakistan till the lineage/ethnicity of the Bengali race was changed.

The account has come from a true son of Pakistan, late Major-General (retd) Khadim Hussain Raja in his recently published book A Stranger in My Own Country: East Pakistan, 1969-1971 (OUP, 2012). The book is posthumously published probably because it was a hot potato in the times it was actually written. He was General Officer Commanding 14 Division in East Pakistan.
General Ayub Khan, whose decade of rule caused the jurisprudence of separatism to evolve, gets the treatment he deserved through the testimony of another not-too-civilised general named Gul Hassan:

“Gul Hassan openly criticised Field Marshal Ayub Khan’s sons who, according to him, were letting their father down by amassing wealth by unfair means. Gul Hassan blurted out that ‘I have told the old **** that this time we will impose Martial Law and take control ourselves but not protect Ayub and his henchmen’. The reference [old ****] was to General Yahya Khan, Commander-in-Chief of the Pakistan Army” (p.8).

General Yahya Khan, who took over from Ayub was not what the doctor would have ordered for East Pakistan. The only leadership criterion was brutality riding on low IQ. The exception was General Yaqub Khan, the commander who insisted that General Yahya not postpone the session of the National Assembly elected after the 1970 election.

The author writes: “All of a sudden, General Yaqub Khan was bundled off as a student on the Imperial Defence College course. This clumsy and unceremonious action was obviously taken to get him out of the way” (p.7).

Commander East Pakistan, General Tikka Khan, disagreed with Raja that Sheikh Mujibur Rahman be secretly despatched to West Pakistan. He wanted to “publicly try Sheikh Mujib in Dhaka and hang him” (p.93).

Major-General Rahim Khan was the other officer Pakistan can’t be proud of: “Rahim started to criticise the senior commanders in Dhaka, especially me, although I happened to be a friend of his. He was of the opinion that the Bengalis were timid people and should have been subdued long ago. The reader can judge for himself the ignorance and lack of understanding of the East Pakistan situation among the hawks in the armed forces” (p.97). Rahim ran away from East Pakistan when things became too hot.

We come to the climax: “[Enter] Commander East Pakistan General Niazi, wearing a pistol holster on his web belt. Niazi became abusive and started raving. Breaking into Urdu, he said: Main iss haramzadi qaum ki nasal badal doon ga. Yeh mujhe kiya samajhtey hain. He threatened that he would let his soldiers loose on their womenfolk. There was pin drop silence at these remarks. The next morning, we were given the sad news. A Bengali officer Major Mushtaq went into a bathroom at the Command Headquarters and shot himself in the head” (p.98).

Niazi also asked Raja for phone numbers of his Bengali girlfriends: “Abhi tau mujhey Bengali girlfriends kay phone number day do” (p.99). Niazi surrendered to Indian General JFR Jacob in 1971. ‘Tiger’ Niazi handed over his personal pistol at the famous Race Course ceremony. Jacob examined the weapon: the lanyard was greasy and frayed, and the pistol was full of muck as if it hadn’t been cleaned in a long while. (Surrender at Dacca: Birth of a Nation; by Lt. Gen JFR Jacob; Manohar Publishers 1997).
Published in The Express Tribune, July 8th, 2012.
 
Pakistani dilemma
1.Kis ka kya jaatha hey ..bol denge sorry
2.nahi bola tho kya ukaad lega ?
 
We dont have any prob in apology (no matter we accept the atrocities or not) but the quest is for how many times we need to apologize? or is it tht when ever elections happen & a new govt form in banladesh Pakistan govt need to apologize to them? or should it be on yearly basis ? cz as per bangladeshis atitude one apology is not acceptable to them (cz several times Pakistani Govt high official did apology)
 
We dont have any prob in apology (no matter we accept the atrocities or not) but the quest is for how many times we need to apologize? or is it tht when ever elections happen & a new govt form in banladesh Pakistan govt need to apologize to them? or should it be on yearly basis ? cz as per bangladeshis atitude one apology is not acceptable to them (cz several times Pakistani Govt high official did apology)

Pakistan never apologized officially. That is the reason why it has been asked numerous time so that it is acknowledged officially atrocities were omitted.

I think the above article is enough to show atrocities was done and what was the mindset of the Pakistani generals.
 
I think that it 'should' be written in Pakistani Constitution that every elected govt should say sorry to Bangladesh So that Bangladesh can be at ease.

Man u people dont wanna move on. U got ur Bangladesh u should be happy and should move on. But u want Apology everyday early morning like a cup of coffee to wake u up from 1971. Pakistan did what it had to do to keep the Nation together Yes I do accept that Pakistan did make mistakes at that time for which we lose our Eastern half but it was Destiny.

But im glad that Bangladesh is not a part of Pakistan anymore. Because if it were part of Pakistan today then Pakistan would have been in great trouble today coz of economy and we r facing much bigger threat from Western border then the Eastern Border.

And now Mods please add Apology to Bangladesh to Blacklisted Threads.
 
In other thread you mentioned that Pakistan never shared the foreign exchange after the creation of Bangladesh but made Bangladesh to share the debt, how much foreign exchange Bangladesh ought to get and how much debt Bangladesh shared.

It is not much in todays term. They suppose to pay 1 billion or something i think. we probably took debt of 5 billion or so and most of the debt money was spent in w. pakistan.
 
Pakistan never apologized officially. That is the reason why it has been asked numerous time so that it is acknowledged officially atrocities were omitted.

I think the above article is enough to show atrocities was done and what was the mindset of the Pakistani generals.

ohh really i can also write hundreds of articles tht nothing happened in 71 by Pakistan Army & those Bangla politicians were traitors does tht mean its true?

& If someone even apologize than u people will ask we want a test to know tht weather the person is apoligizing deeply or just saying words....

i mean just move on who know with good relations with Pakistan we all gain more than wht we lost....
 
That's derailing the subject which is: a rapprochement between BD and Pakistan. That is something Indians dread, and therefore Paid Posters must jump in to sabotage any such discussion.

Actually no Indian dreads anything. Such apologies are not offered by PDF members nor is it in India's control.

Relations between Pakistan and BD is one thing, but the geo-political fabric is entirely different.

But yes, its derailing the subject since it was not very on topic. I just wanted to make a joke :P

BTW, I wish I was paid :D
 
It is not much in todays term. They suppose to pay 1 billion or something i think. we probably took debt of 5 billion or so and most of the debt money was spent in w. pakistan.

I heard it is 4 billion usd it includes most of the currency were also transferred to West Pakistan during the war.... but cant provide the source now.
 
ohh really i can also write hundreds of articles tht nothing happened in 71 by Pakistan Army & those Bangla politicians were traitors does tht mean its true?

& If someone even apologize than u people will ask we want a test to know tht weather the person is apoligizing deeply or just saying words....

i mean just move on who know with good relations with Pakistan we all gain more than wht we lost....

What happened during 71 is well documented ... no single article or anything cant change that.

An apology was due for a long time and in Bangladesh it is very important as it affected millions of people directly and indirectly. For the sake of those people Bangladesh will kept on asking for apology. A sincere apology from Pakistan will remove the existing divide that is there between the 2 country and it will also abolish 71 centric politics in Bangladesh.

With combined population of around 350 million Bangladesh and Pakistan can cooperate with each other in many field and progress altogether. For your info Bangladesh is no longer a basket case the prism through which Pakistan always look or used to look Bangladesh. Bangladesh has already moved much ahead of Pakistan in terms of social indexes and also it's per capita GDP is to cross that of Pakistan within the next couple of years.

But it is not like that all Pakistanis are in denial mode. There are a good number of Pakistanis who are in support of apology.

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Pakistan should also learn lesson from 1971 which Imran Khan termed Pakistan has learned no lesson from 1971.

Pakistan learnt no lesson from 1971
 
It is not much in todays term. They suppose to pay 1 billion or something i think. we probably took debt of 5 billion or so and most of the debt money was spent in w. pakistan.

But why didn't Bangladesh refuse to pay the debt even Pakistan refused to share foreign exchange reserve and debt money was spent in West Pakistan.
 
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