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6 Jun 2009,

Pakistan has used a substantial amount of military aid from the US meant to fight terrorism to build up its army with modern weapons and equipment for a conventional warfare against India, Pentagon documents have revealed.

All this was done with the knowledge of the then Bush Administration, which not only provided USD 1.9 billion in Foreign Military Financing (FMF) but also signed agreements with Pakistan for military sales worth nearly USD 5 billion during the period, showed the documents.

The Pentagon documents also revealed that a major post-9/11 American defence supply to Pakistan under FMF had nothing to do with its fight against terrorism.

While the Taliban and al-Qaeda gained ground in the tribal areas of Pakistan bordering Afghanistan, Islamabad bought eight P-3C Orion maritime patrol aircraft and their refurbishment worth USD 474 million. It also placed orders for 5,250 TOW anti-armour missiles worth USD 186 million. 2,007 of these have already been delivered and the rest are in the process of being supplied.

Besides buying more than 5,600 military radio sets worth USD 163 million, Pakistan bought six AN/TPS-77 surveillance radars worth USD 100 million and six C-130E transport aircraft and their refurbishment worth USD 76 million. Under the Excess Defence Articles (EDA), it was granted 20 AH-1F Cobra attack helicopters, which were then refurbished, according to the Pentagon documents.

Pakistan also used a substantial chunk of America's FMF to purchase up to 60 mid-life update kits for F-16 A/B combat aircraft valued at USD 891 million. Of this, it paid USD 477 million from the FMF funds given by the United States.

Similarly, of the USD 87 million worth order for 115 M-109 self-propelled howitzers, it paid USD 53 million from FMF. And all this happened while Pakistan's economic situation deteriorated.

Islamabad also paid a whopping USD 1.43 billion to the US to purchase 18 new F-16 combat aircraft and another USD 629 million for F-16 armaments.

Prominent among these are 500 AMRAAM air-to-air missiles; 1,450 2,000-pound bombs; 500 JDAM tail Kits for gravity bombs and 1,600 Enhanced Paveway laser-guided kits, also for gravity bombs. F-16 has not been delivered to date.

Pakistan also paid USD 298 million for 100 Harpoon anti-ship missiles; USD 95 million for 500 sidewinder air-to-air missiles and USD 80 million for six Phalanx close-in-naval guns.

While the Pentagon notified Congress on the possible transfer to Pakistan of three P-3B aircraft as EDA grants that would be modified to carry the E-2C Hawkeye air-borne early warning suite in a deal worth up to USD 855 million, this effort has not progressed beyond the notification stage.

Major EDA grants since 2001 include 14 F-16A/B combat aircraft and 39 T-37 military trainer jets. Under Coalition Support Funds -- part of the Pentagon budget -- Pakistan has received 26 Bell 412 utility helicopters, along with related parts and maintenance, valued at USD 235 million.

Finally, under 1206 and Frontier Corps Authorities, the United States has provided Pakistan with helicopter spare parts, night vision goggles, radios, body armour, helmets, first aid kits, litters and other individual soldier equipment.

Pentagon report: Pak misusing military aid- TIMESNOW.tv - Latest Breaking News, Big News Stories, News Videos

'Pak built up army against India with US military aid'
 
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^^ Just goes on to validate the Indian Governments concern about the misuse of aid money by Pak Army. This should be an eye opener to all those members who brag about how the money spent on major defence purchases goes from your own pocket. Hopefully, now the members will realize just how important the US aid is to Pakistan army.
 
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Yes you are! No one is denying that. But don't forget all this is coming at a cost. Hope I needn't elaborate more!

You clearly missed the sarcasm. The report also says "All this was done with the knowledge of the then Bush Administration, which not only provided USD 1.9 billion in Foreign Military Financing (FMF) but also signed agreements with Pakistan for military sales worth nearly USD 5 billion during the period, showed the documents.
So I don't know what the fuss is about. Every now and then reports like these show up yet without solid prove and we as Pakistanis don't give a shyt at all what the media is barking about. If the US taxpayer has issues let the US Government deal with it, its not our problem.

Lets not forget a couple of billion dollars for a $12 trillion economy is a bargain. We're losing more men in this War than any other country, blood is priceless!
 
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You clearly missed the sarcasm. The report also says "All this was done with the knowledge of the then Bush Administration, which not only provided USD 1.9 billion in Foreign Military Financing (FMF) but also signed agreements with Pakistan for military sales worth nearly USD 5 billion during the period, showed the documents.
So I don't know what the fuss is about. Every now and then reports like these show up yet without solid prove and we as Pakistanis don't give a shyt at all what the media is barking about. If the US taxpayer has issues let the US Government deal with it, its not our problem.

Lets not forget a couple of billion dollars for a $12 trillion economy is a bargain. We're losing more men in this War than any other country, blood is priceless!

the interesting part about the proof is, US does not need to prove anything to Pakistan for the aid it gives!!!

And many members over this forum have cried about lack of support from US to bolster WoT efforts .......
 
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i remember a similar report from pentagon sayin pakistan is usin the given aid properly.
pressure tactic. thts all i can make out of it
 
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The 3.3 billion F16 Deal was paid from our national funds.So what's wrong in purchasing Fighter Jet's from America by paying our money?
All i can say is Indians keep barking let's see if America stops giving FMF...
Donald Camp, Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary for South and Statement Before the U.S. House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on South Asia

Washington, DC
September 16, 2008

Chairman Ackerman, Members of the Subcommittee, thank you for inviting me to address you today on Pakistan’s F-16 program.

On February 18 of this year, the Pakistani people went to the polls and elected moderate leaders who are working to set a stable, prosperous, democratic path for Pakistan into the future. The journey along this path is going to be a difficult one as Pakistan faces increasing economic challenges and the serious threat of growing instability in the border regions. The United States wants to see this new government succeed, not only because it represents the desires of the Pakistani people but because we believe that a moderate government with a democratic mandate is the most effective partner in the fight against terrorists and violent extremism.

During Prime Minister Gillani’s visit to Washington in late July, you saw the United States and Pakistan committed to maintaining and strengthening our broad-based partnership, and the United States committed to steps that can help Pakistan deal with economic problems and increase its effectiveness in countering the extremist threat. The Administration’s request to re-direct Foreign Military

Financing in 2008 and beyond to support F-16 Mid-Life Updates speaks directly to these two commitments. Updates to Pakistan’s F-16s will make these aircraft far more effective against terrorist targets, while helping with these payments will provide the newly-elected Pakistani government valuable fiscal flexibility as they deal with rising food and fuel prices.

Mr. Chairman, my colleagues and I represent the Administration’s commitment to the F-16 program and we ask for your support to approve the Administration’s request to re-direct the remaining $110 million in 2008 Foreign

Military Financing for the Mid-Life Update and an additional $142 million in the future. The new Government of Pakistan stands behind these requests and has committed to assume subsequent payments with national funds beginning in December 2009.

F-16s Defined U.S.-Pakistan Engagement

The sale of F-16s to Pakistan became a transformative element of the U.S.- Pakistan bilateral relationship over 20 years ago, and this historical context is important to understand and remember as we determine how to handle the questions of F-16 financing today. Not only a component of Pakistan’s national defense, the F-16 has become an iconic symbol of our bilateral relationship and our commitment to each other.

In the early 1980s, the U.S. government initially agreed to sell Pakistan 111 F-16 aircraft. This decision was influenced by our close partnership with Pakistan during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. By October 1990, however, Pressler sanctions were imposed when President (George Herbert Walker) Bush was unable to certify that Pakistan was not developing a nuclear weapon. The Pressler sanctions led to a decade-long suspension of security assistance to Pakistan and a deficit of trust between our two countries that we are still working to overcome. The suspension of our security assistance programs required under Pressler meant the suspension and eventual cancellation of an additional sale of F-16 aircraft that would have augmented the 40 F-16s Pakistan purchased in 1982. That cancellation has been viewed as a symbol of the collapse of our relationship during the 1990s, a period which remains highly emotional for many Pakistanis. The suspension of our security assistance also precluded Pakistani military officers from attending U.S. military schools, which has produced nearly a generation of Pakistani military officers who have not traveled to the United States to learn sideby- side with American officers.

September 11 Re-defined Our Relationship

As you know, Mr. Chairman, the September 11, 2001 attacks resulted in a profound shift in U.S. policy towards South and Central Asia. The terrorist attacks on our homeland led to a strategic choice by the Government of Pakistan to support U.S. efforts to remove the Taliban regime from power in Afghanistan. Pakistan’s decision gave us the support of a critical neighbor, enabled us to undertake Operation Enduring Freedom and has helped to sustain coalition operations over the last seven years, with Pakistan’s road networks and port facilities serving as the critical supply line for our military forces in Afghanistan. - 3 -

In return, after September 11th, the Administration committed to reinvigorating the security relationship between our two countries. This led to Pakistan’s designation as a Major Non-NATO Ally in 2004 and the President’s commitment to provide Pakistan a $3 billion assistance package over five years, evenly divided between security and development. Soon after, the Administration sought to overturn decades of bitterness by agreeing to sell Pakistan a new generation of F-16s and providing it with the ability to upgrade its existing fleet. This agreement was formally codified in September 2006 when Pakistan signed three separate Letters of Offer and Acceptance (LOA) that constitute the core of Pakistan’s F-16 program. Prior to signing the Letters of Offer and Acceptance, the Administration notified Congress that the sale would serve to stabilize the conventional military balance in South Asia, provide Pakistan the ability to conduct Close Air Support in ongoing operations in the Global War on Terror and restore Pakistan’s confidence in the enduring nature of our relationship with them.

The Purchase

Pakistan had originally planned a total purchase valued at $5.1 billion, almost all of it in national funds. The 2005 Kashmir earthquake and subsequent financial constraints caused Pakistan to reduce the number of new planes it wanted to purchase from 36 to 18, which lowered the overall value of the deal to approximately $3.1 billion. The 18 new planes are valued at $1.4 billion, with the remainder of the $3.1 billion dedicated to associated munitions (valued at approximately $641 million) and 46 Mid-Life Update (MLU) kits for Pakistan's existing F-16 fleet (estimated to cost $891 million). Additionally, the United States has provided Pakistan with 14 F-16s designated as Excess Defense Articles (EDA).

Pakistan will use reprogrammed funds to purchase the Mid- Life Update kits to upgrade the Excess Defense Article F-16s delivered over the last two and a half years. The Mid-Life Update case was written and agreed upon by the U.S. and Pakistan as a "mixed funding" case, allowing Pakistan to use $108.395 million in FY 2006 FMF credits on the overall $891 million case. Pakistan’s subsequent request to use additional Foreign Military Financing has led us to the current request to re-direct funds in FY 2008 and beyond. The Pakistanis have requested that the Administration allow it to use a portion of its FY 2008 and FY 2009 Foreign Military Financing Presidential commitment, totaling $368M, for the Mid-Life Update program. They have also - 4 - committed to making all additional payments beyond this request with national funds. Even with this Pakistani request, over 83% of the F-16 program will have been funded through Pakistani national funds. It is important to note that Pakistan has a consistent payment record on the three other Foreign Military Sales cases associated with this sale and historically on all other Foreign Military Sales cases.

F-16s and theWar on Terror

F-16s provide a critical counterterrorism capability to Pakistan and the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) has recently made extensive use of its aging F-16 fleet to support Pakistan Army operations in the Swat Valley and in the Bajaur Agency of the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA). According to information furnished to us by the Pakistan Embassy in Washington, the PAF flew 93 sorties in August 2008 in operations against the Taliban. However, their current model F-16 can be used for close air support missions only in daylight and good visibility. They cannot be employed at night, a fact not lost on the Taliban and other extremist groups being targeted.

U.S. F-16s use day-night, all weather, air-dropped precision-guided munitions to great effect in Iraq; and we believe Pakistan should be able to use this capability to achieve our shared goals in countering militants along its western border. The new and enhanced F-16s will provide Pakistan the ability to attack fleeing targets with precision during all weather conditions. The Mid-Life Update will enable the Pakistan Air Force to use an advanced targeting pod that provides the ability to generate ground position data that can then be used to direct guided munitions to a target. In addition, the Mid-Life Update comes with an advanced communications system that enables real time communication with ground forces – a critical capability for Close Air Support missions. Combined, these systems provide Pakistan’s Air Force with the technological capability to conduct precision close air strikes against Al Qaeda, Taliban, and associated terrorist targets in the FATA, as well as provide non-traditional Intelligence Surveillance and Reconnaissance (NTISR), a critical enabler in a counterinsurgency campaign. The Pakistan Air Force will receive considerable training associated with the F-16 cases including specific F-16 pilot and maintenance training for their F-16 technicians. We are currently finalizing a comprehensive training plan with us that will include Close Air Support, Combat Search and Rescue, aerial refueling, and night flying operations. This will also mean an improved ability to limit civilian casualties, which will in turn lead to greater willingness on the part of the Pakistani military to employ the F-16s in a counter-terrorism role.

It is also important to note that Pakistan’s request to use Foreign Military Financing for the Mid-Life Update program will not detract from investments in other equipment that is being employed in direct support of ongoing military operations in the Tribal Areas. Our original congressional notification for the use of $247 million of Pakistan’s Foreign Military Financing allocation stated that Pakistan would use this assistance to finance the refurbishment of Pakistan Navy P-3C aircraft, to purchase Pakistan Air Force Command and Control articles and services, tactical radios for Pakistan’s Army, TOW missiles and to modernize and maintain Pakistan’s Cobra helicopters. Twenty million dollars of the $247 million will still be used to purchase TOW missiles and tactical radios. In addition, the Cobra helicopters, for which there are signed Letters of Offer and Acceptance, will be financed through Pakistan’s remaining FY 2008 Foreign Military Financing allocation of $50.57 million, which will be released pending expiration of the congressional notification period.

Conclusion

Mr. Chairman, I would like to emphasize the strategic importance of Pakistan to U.S. interests, not just regionally, but globally. While the F-16 plays an important role in Pakistan’s efforts to defeat extremism, it also has achieved strategic importance as a symbolic barometer of the overall state of our relationship and trust between our militaries. Given the tangible and symbolic importance of Pakistan’s F-16 program we request Congressional support to redirect the remaining $110 million in Foreign Military Financing in Fiscal Year 2008 and up to $142 million in the future. I thank you for this opportunity to appear before this Committee. My colleagues and I are happy to respond to your questions at this point. Thank you.
 
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I think there is no misuse of aid because we have given them saying military aid so they will use them to buy weapons no problem the aid was meant for that.
Now military aid is not going to be used to distribute chocolate cakes in the IDP'S
 
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All this was done with the knowledge of the then Bush Administration, which not only provided USD 1.9 billion in Foreign Military Financing (FMF) but also signed agreements with Pakistan for military sales worth nearly USD 5 billion during the period, showed the documents.

What some one forgot was to highlight the above part. Anyways i'll do the honors.

So here comes my question since Indians like to add a flavor of their own to the whole thing, how exactly is this a misuse of military aid when the American administration itself knew about it.:woot:
 
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The US administration and Congress approved $1.9 billion in FOreign Military Financing, so why bit*h about it now? If there were issues, then it should have been stopped at that time.

Just more examples of yellow journalism and distorting the facts.

Also, in terms of the overall $10 billion in aid provided to Pakistan (courtesy Nadja):

Here's the break-up for the aid we have received since 2002...

Duration: Since 9/11 till November 2008
Total amount: 10.768 billion dollars

Break up of the total funds

Coalition Support Fund (re-imbursement amount) stood at around 56 per cent:
6.062 billion dollars

Others (military and budgetary support): 4.706 dollars

Further break up of military and budgetary support

Debt write-off: 1.5 billion dollars
Budgetary support: 1.2 billion dollars
Military assistance: 1.514 billion dollars
Loan: 10 million dollars

Grant for Soyabean oil import: 487 million dollars

http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistans-war/26853-musharraf-cnn-debunking-us-aid-myths-more.html

The major amount of Coalition Support Funds was provided for services rendered and expenses incurred in assisting the US operations in Afghanistan, and is therefore not US 'aid', but Pakistani money reimbursed by the US.

Much was made of the US only approving $1 billion out of expenses worth $1.47 billion submitted by Pakistan. It appears now that the remaining $470 million has also been cleared after accounting issues were resolved.

This tranche of reimbursements was subject to the new extensive and comprehensive accounting rules put in place over a year ago, and is a validation of Pakistan's position that no deliberate fudging or 'overcharging' occurred.
 
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I think this whole news item is a waste of time ....... Pakistan is within its own rights to do what it pleases, and US can NOT bit^h over the issue while maintaining the status quo
 
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What some one forgot was to highlight the above part. Anyways i'll do the honors.

So here comes my question since Indians like to add a flavor of their own to the whole thing, how exactly is this a misuse of military aid when the American administration itself knew about it.:woot:

hasmore to do with couple of self professed defence expert journalists out to earn their retainers I think, its irrelevant actually, there is nothing new in the inventory or anything de-stabilsing by even wildest of stretches of imaginations ....... TOWs, P3C Orions, C130s, etc etc is all part of ongoing US-Pakistani cooperation and miliatary sales ......

IMO Indian media had no interesting news ..... even the SENSEX is now climbing :rofl:
 
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Theres no misuse of Funds its just a bogus journalism.

Every peice of USA military kit is brought witth USA blessing and full knowledge that it is being acquired to keep india checked and in place.

If the Americans had an issue with it they could have stopped it anytime.

Every dime that Pakistan gets will be used to beef up its conventional armed forces Today and the future. Its a massive shot in their arm.

But with out American Grant Aid Pak Armed forces would suffer no doubt.

In a strange way its in Pakistans militaries interest to keep WOT ongoing as long as possible to keep the food chain pumping from USA.
 
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In a strange way its in Pakistans militaries interest to keep WOT ongoing as long as possible to keep the food chain pumping from USA.

Not at all - since 2007 Pakistan has suffered billions in losses due to economic slowdown that has been exacerbated by the impact on investor confidence from terrorism.

Pakistan is hemorrhaging far more due to terrorism than it can possibly get in terms of US 'aid'.
Every dime that Pakistan gets will be used to beef up its conventional armed forces Today and the future. Its a massive shot in their arm.
This is incorrect as well - as the figures I posted above indicate, around 60 percent of the money Pakistan has received from the US is in the form of reimbursements for services rendered - as such this is not 'free money' or even 'fungible money'. Its 'money out and money in'.
 
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