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Pakistan media declare war on Indian counterparts

I still remember the Indian media and the hijacking of the Indian Airlines right after September 11. Indian media within minutes declared Pakistani terrorists have hijacked an Indian Airlines plane. Within one hour they had posted all of their demands. They even pointed out their names.

Then suddenly we hear the plane has landed and wasn't even hijacked.

I would understand if some communications problem led them to believe that the plane MIGHT be hijacked, but out of whose *** did they pull out their demands from?

That is the Indian media for you.
 
Der Ayad, Durust Ayad!

or Better Late then Never!
 
Unfortunately in most countries (including western ones) the media exists to sell itself, therefore the conduct and inclinations of the media are more usualy than not a shadow of how the larger population sees things/wants to see things. So at the end of the day it is an interesting outlook into the mindframe of the larger population itself.
 
why the indian security forces does not have any informatio before somethingh took place
and when it tooks place after 1 hour they have all informations with names nationality ect.
specially when THEY involve pakistan??????
 
I still remember the Indian media and the hijacking of the Indian Airlines right after September 11. Indian media within minutes declared Pakistani terrorists have hijacked an Indian Airlines plane. Within one hour they had posted all of their demands. They even pointed out their names.

Then suddenly we hear the plane has landed and wasn't even hijacked.

I would understand if some communications problem led them to believe that the plane MIGHT be hijacked, but out of whose *** did they pull out their demands from?

That is the Indian media for you.

If you are talking about IC-814 then was hijacked, If their was any other such incident then please post links.
 
If you are talking about IC-814 then was hijacked, If their was any other such incident then please post links.
Not that one.

It was just after 9/11.

It will not be easy to pull those articles out the archives since it wasn't an Hijacking only the Indian media made it so. But it was the same Sansani Khez reporting in those days. Anyway I'll do some googling.

Oh and remember when a boy fell in a hole? What drama! I think his name was prince!
 
Hey anyone has clip of " Rahman Chacha" and also recently release Mumbai carnage dramatization .....lolzz......I can't believe Indian media take that gutter dip...Way they made these shots, victims will be Indian muslims...and i feel sorry for them. Indian govt should interfere and stop media to launching these type of sensationalized clips. It will hurt more India and Indian muslims.
 
Media Falls In The Old Trap

By Beena Sarwar

03 December, 2008
The Dawn

The Mumbai nightmare has plunged the media in India and Pakistan into the dangerous, old trap in which nationalism trumps responsible reporting. This is not a new phenomenon, nor is it restricted to India and Pakistan.

American journalists fell into this trap after the attack on the Twin Towers in New York on Sept 11, 2001. They were vigorously criticised for their unquestioning over-reliance on the security establishment for information. The security establishment, with its blinkered security paradigm, fed them false information that prepared the ground for the Iraq invasion and the Afghanistan bombing.

As part of society, journalists may find it difficult to step back and see the larger picture, especially when their countries are under attack. Responsible reporting and commentary require recognising this fallibility. There is no such thing as objective journalism. All journalists have their own world views and political baggage but at least we can aspire to be fair — to our subjects, to our audiences, and perhaps to our common humanity rather than national identities."Media manipulation is less an issue of overt censorship than an internalisation of myths and mindsets," commented Rita Manchanda, summing up a radical critique of the mass media by Indian and Pakistani journalists (`Reporting conflict', South Asia Forum for Human Rights, May 2001).

If the Indian media tends to be nationalistic and trusting in its government (which Pakistan government representatives often ask the more cynical Pakistanis to emulate), the Pakistani media has clearly demarcated no-go areas. As the veteran Peshawar-based journalist Rahimullah Yusufzai said at the consultation, "Pakistani journalists never had the opportunity to professionally cover the 1965 or 1971 wars or the Rann of Kutch or Kargil conflicts." Add the conflicts in Balochistan and the northern areas to that list since then.

The Babri Masjid demolition, the nuclear tests and the Kargil conflict all fed jingoism and jingoistic reporting on both sides. Sometimes journalists are culpable more by omission than commission, ignoring or playing down certain aspects or not asking crucial questions.

Take the festering issue of prisoners. The young Indian fisherman Lakshman who died in a Karachi jail on March 10, 2008 received scant mention in the Pakistani media. The body of a Pakistani prisoner Khalid Mehmood who died in an Indian prison, sent home around the same time, made front-page news, with many journalists accusing the Indians of torture.

Prison conditions and how the police treat prisoners in both countries are no secret. It is not that we treat Indian prisoners well, while they viciously torture Pakistanis. Sometimes a prisoner's death results not from outright torture but illness arising from neglect — poor living conditions in a hostile environment, extreme temperatures, lack of medical attention, all compounded by lack of contact with loved ones back home.

When the Maharashtra government stopped two Pakistani artists from continuing their work in Mumbai, TV reporters here got sound bites from passers-by who condemned the action. The reporter did not ask, and nor did the respondents bring up, the question of what would have happened had the situation been reversed — would Indians have been allowed to continue working here in the aftermath of such an attack, in which the attackers were widely believed to have links with India?

Similarly, talk show hosts let hawkish talk go unchallenged. In one recent instance, a retired army general referred to India as Pakistan's dushman mulk (enemy country). They invite more balanced commentators also but give them get far less time and space. Channels play up Mahesh Butt's criticism of the Indian media but, as the analyst Foqia Sadiq Khan asks, would they quote someone from Pakistan criticising the Pakistani media? "They quote Shabana Azmi ad nauseum that she couldn't find a flat in Bombay being a Muslim, but not on her opinion of fundamentalism."

Media might have brought the people closer but when nationalism rears its head, the beast of 24-hour television news also fuels conflict. This is where the commercial aspect comes in. When something big happens, the public seeks answers. The channels which cater to this need improve their ratings. Sensation sells. With viewers glued to the screens, channels keep them there with a continuous virtual reality show. They fill the time with speculative
commentary, `expert' guests and whatever footage is available. Sometimes such footage is repeated ad nauseum — like when the Twin Towers were destroyed on 9/11, when the Marriott hotel was attacked, when the FIA building in Lahore was struck.

Even when nothing big is happening, information is packaged in an exciting way in order to attract attention. This often means playing up bad news and downplaying good news. TV channels continuously showed the scene of the blasts that rocked the World Performing Arts Festival in Lahore on its second-last day, injuring two people. They did not give the artists who defied fear and went ahead on the last day the same kind of attention.

When Zardari was sworn in as president, a breaking news ticker reported: "Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh congratulates Zardari". Breaking news? At least it was true. In the rush to be the first, channels often misreport.

The Mumbai nightmare provided several examples, as Kalpana Sharma documents in her critique of the Indian media's coverage of the first 60 hours, `Unpacking the pixel' in Tehelka. She concludes, "it is essential that reporters be trained to handle such extraordinary situations, that they learn the importance of restraint and cross- checking…. Professionalism and accuracy will ensure that we don't contribute to prejudice and panic."

Some Indian channels are running the Pakistan factor like a movie trailer, complete with sound effects and watch-for-the-next-episode commentary. This obviously fuels Pakistani indignation. However, this indignation could be tempered by being less reactive and empathising with the Indians' pain and grief that many Pakistanis share. Zealous commentators could also recall the times that their own media houses sensationalised an issue.

Journalists may argue that they are just the messenger, reflecting official or public opinion. But the media must also question, and get people to think. The stakes are high in our nuclear-armed countries, in a post-9/11 world where the major players include armed and trained men around the world who subscribe to the ideology of Al Qaeda and the Taliban.

As President Asif Ali Zardari said, even if elements within Pakistan were involved it is these same elements that the Pakistan government is fighting. So how much sense does it make to push the Pakistan government in a corner and divert its attention from fighting these elements?

Media Falls In The Old Trap By Beena Sarwar
 
Media Falls In The Old Trap

By Beena Sarwar

03 December, 2008
The Dawn

The Mumbai nightmare has plunged the media in India and Pakistan into the dangerous, old trap in which nationalism trumps responsible reporting. This is not a new phenomenon, nor is it restricted to India and Pakistan.

American journalists fell into this trap after the attack on the Twin Towers in New York on Sept 11, 2001. They were vigorously criticised for their unquestioning over-reliance on the security establishment for information. The security establishment, with its blinkered security paradigm, fed them false information that prepared the ground for the Iraq invasion and the Afghanistan bombing.

As part of society, journalists may find it difficult to step back and see the larger picture, especially when their countries are under attack. Responsible reporting and commentary require recognising this fallibility. There is no such thing as objective journalism. All journalists have their own world views and political baggage but at least we can aspire to be fair — to our subjects, to our audiences, and perhaps to our common humanity rather than national identities."Media manipulation is less an issue of overt censorship than an internalisation of myths and mindsets," commented Rita Manchanda, summing up a radical critique of the mass media by Indian and Pakistani journalists (`Reporting conflict', South Asia Forum for Human Rights, May 2001).

If the Indian media tends to be nationalistic and trusting in its government (which Pakistan government representatives often ask the more cynical Pakistanis to emulate), the Pakistani media has clearly demarcated no-go areas. As the veteran Peshawar-based journalist Rahimullah Yusufzai said at the consultation, "Pakistani journalists never had the opportunity to professionally cover the 1965 or 1971 wars or the Rann of Kutch or Kargil conflicts." Add the conflicts in Balochistan and the northern areas to that list since then.

The Babri Masjid demolition, the nuclear tests and the Kargil conflict all fed jingoism and jingoistic reporting on both sides. Sometimes journalists are culpable more by omission than commission, ignoring or playing down certain aspects or not asking crucial questions.

Take the festering issue of prisoners. The young Indian fisherman Lakshman who died in a Karachi jail on March 10, 2008 received scant mention in the Pakistani media. The body of a Pakistani prisoner Khalid Mehmood who died in an Indian prison, sent home around the same time, made front-page news, with many journalists accusing the Indians of torture.

Prison conditions and how the police treat prisoners in both countries are no secret. It is not that we treat Indian prisoners well, while they viciously torture Pakistanis. Sometimes a prisoner's death results not from outright torture but illness arising from neglect — poor living conditions in a hostile environment, extreme temperatures, lack of medical attention, all compounded by lack of contact with loved ones back home.

When the Maharashtra government stopped two Pakistani artists from continuing their work in Mumbai, TV reporters here got sound bites from passers-by who condemned the action. The reporter did not ask, and nor did the respondents bring up, the question of what would have happened had the situation been reversed — would Indians have been allowed to continue working here in the aftermath of such an attack, in which the attackers were widely believed to have links with India?

Similarly, talk show hosts let hawkish talk go unchallenged. In one recent instance, a retired army general referred to India as Pakistan's dushman mulk (enemy country). They invite more balanced commentators also but give them get far less time and space. Channels play up Mahesh Butt's criticism of the Indian media but, as the analyst Foqia Sadiq Khan asks, would they quote someone from Pakistan criticising the Pakistani media? "They quote Shabana Azmi ad nauseum that she couldn't find a flat in Bombay being a Muslim, but not on her opinion of fundamentalism."

Media might have brought the people closer but when nationalism rears its head, the beast of 24-hour television news also fuels conflict. This is where the commercial aspect comes in. When something big happens, the public seeks answers. The channels which cater to this need improve their ratings. Sensation sells. With viewers glued to the screens, channels keep them there with a continuous virtual reality show. They fill the time with speculative
commentary, `expert' guests and whatever footage is available. Sometimes such footage is repeated ad nauseum — like when the Twin Towers were destroyed on 9/11, when the Marriott hotel was attacked, when the FIA building in Lahore was struck.

Even when nothing big is happening, information is packaged in an exciting way in order to attract attention. This often means playing up bad news and downplaying good news. TV channels continuously showed the scene of the blasts that rocked the World Performing Arts Festival in Lahore on its second-last day, injuring two people. They did not give the artists who defied fear and went ahead on the last day the same kind of attention.

When Zardari was sworn in as president, a breaking news ticker reported: "Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh congratulates Zardari". Breaking news? At least it was true. In the rush to be the first, channels often misreport.

The Mumbai nightmare provided several examples, as Kalpana Sharma documents in her critique of the Indian media's coverage of the first 60 hours, `Unpacking the pixel' in Tehelka. She concludes, "it is essential that reporters be trained to handle such extraordinary situations, that they learn the importance of restraint and cross- checking…. Professionalism and accuracy will ensure that we don't contribute to prejudice and panic."

Some Indian channels are running the Pakistan factor like a movie trailer, complete with sound effects and watch-for-the-next-episode commentary. This obviously fuels Pakistani indignation. However, this indignation could be tempered by being less reactive and empathising with the Indians' pain and grief that many Pakistanis share. Zealous commentators could also recall the times that their own media houses sensationalised an issue.

Journalists may argue that they are just the messenger, reflecting official or public opinion. But the media must also question, and get people to think. The stakes are high in our nuclear-armed countries, in a post-9/11 world where the major players include armed and trained men around the world who subscribe to the ideology of Al Qaeda and the Taliban.

As President Asif Ali Zardari said, even if elements within Pakistan were involved it is these same elements that the Pakistan government is fighting. So how much sense does it make to push the Pakistan government in a corner and divert its attention from fighting these elements?

Media Falls In The Old Trap By Beena Sarwar


:victory: we are gonna win !
 
Pakistan's restrained response to India's rude haste

Jonaid Iqbal in Islamabad

Mirroring public opinion, representatives of 50 political parties of Pakistan expressed grief and sorrow to the Indian people as well families of the victims of the Mumbai carnage.

These representatives, many of them the head of their political parties, attended the National Security Conference, convened and presided over by Yousaf Raza Gilani, at the prime Minister's House on Tuesday.

Their declaration adopted at the end of the conference said "Pakistan abhors any act of violence perpetrated against innocent persons, and political parties took strong exception to unsubstantiated allegations made in haste against Pakistan, and India in a knee-jerk reaction had acted in haste to paper over its total intelligence failure.

In an unprecedented show of unity the conference also assured complete support assured to the government on the matter of national security by political parties across the country.

The seven-point declaration also expressed steadfast resolve of the Pakistani nation to defend its honour and dignity as well as Pakistan's sovereignty, political independence and territorial integrity, and that "all political parties and democratic forces firmly support" the Government and the Armed Forces of Pakistan in defending Pakistan's security interests.
After declaring abhorrence at acts of violence perpetrated against innocent persons in Mumbai the political leaders also took "strong exception to the unsubstantiated allegations" made in haste against Pakistan.

Their deliberation reflected the desire of Pakistan to pursue constructive engagement with India in a comprehensive manner with a view to building confidence and mutual trust for establishing friendly and good-neighbourly relations with India on the basis of settlement of all outstanding disputes.
Millions of people have seen through the Indian blame game. Fortunately good sense prevailed and the heightened tension came down. Justifiably, the world people, thrown in a state of cliff hanger situation, then felt relieved when assured that war would not break out between the two neighbouring nations of India and Pakistan.

To say that the people in Pakistan were disgusted at the lack of decorum in orchestrating the campaign to malign Pakistan, without credible evidence, would be an understatement.

Besides, behind-the-scene counsels by major powers, makes it clear that 1. War between the two nations is out of the question, thanks to the nuclear bombs both of them have; and 2. The Kashmir problem must be solved to ensure a lasting peace in the region.

In fact the first crucial 48 hours passed without India carrying out an initial covert threat to move troops on Pakistan's eastern border. Due to lack of evidence, and the mounting international pressure to lower the tension, the Indian Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee has been forced to revise his earlier statement and declared that Delhi would not jump to military action against Pakistan.

The US has promised solidarity with India, again, with a difference, that this year, the US economy is in a bad shape.

The Americans are now trying to persuade both Pakistan and India not to go off the rails and that Pakistan join the investigation in finding out the real culprits if in case a notorious Jihadi elements of Lashkar Taiba which this time has not claimed responsibility in the awful act.

India continues to blame Pakistani militants, saying all of the 10 or so terrorists came from Pakistan, and has asked for the repatriation of 20 or so 'rogue' elements, such as Hafiz Saeed, Maulana Azhar and Dawwood Ibrahim. Pakistan has already offered to join a joint investigation team but it has made the claim without empirical support.

Pakistan's response has been cool and dignified to the false allegations from India. On Tuesday Gilani and 50 Opposition leaders gave a joint call to counter strategic threats to the country.

A perception is that in demanding the presence of Pakistani D.G. ISI in India, the Indian Prime Minister was gunning for the Inter Services Intelligence, the country's main shield in countering dirty tricks hatched by external enemies who have but the sole aim of destroying Pakistan's nuclear structure. The ISI now has been civilianised and brought under the Prime Minister.

The Mumbai carnage is ugly as it is and has been condemned by the political leadership of Pakistan as well as all sections of the Pakistani society, but we fail to understand the indecent haste with which India put the blame on Pakistan.

As the Indian security personnel were busy fighting the desperado gunmen the security staff was able to pick up their conversation with someone from Pakistan and seeking instruction from their handlers.

It is a story full of hole and one that the narrator could be told to the marines, as the phrase goes. No wonder, the United States has absolved Pakistan of involvement in the gory episode, which has somewhat brought down the hot temperature. The Indian media was at its frenzied worst. One electronic channel invented one Chacha Rahman the leader of this gang of marauder, safely ensconced in Pakistan. It even charged the Pakistan Navy of helping the crazy gang of putting them down near the Indian port city.

Indian reporter in Pakistan

An Indian correspondent based at Islamabad tried to help her comrades at home by publishing a story that the Pakistan media had declared war against India, which was a gross exaggeration of fact. At that very moment the Pakistani media was busy at an introspection advising its members that they should be objective while making comments, should never leave sight of accuracy and shouldn't report in a manner that the Indian side had done in creating war hysteria.

HOLIDAY > INTERNATIONAL
 
Everybody Listen and watch this video. Its the video of one of the attackers speaking to Indian News Channel. He has an Indian accent, uses Hindu Indian vocabulary like "Parivaar". He denies links to Pakistan, and says he is from Hyderabad, India!!! These Attackers even have Indian Birth Certificates!!! Remember two of the attackers were arrested and the Indian army has discovered they actually are real Indians!

The attackers name is Imran, he says he is fighting against Hindu Indian oppression of Muslims in Kashmir and India!!!! God Bless

Again these attackers are purely Indian insiders. Please spread this video to the WORLD!!! We Must take Action, When they Enemy Provides Falsehood, We shall Provide Truth, When the Enemy makes Accusations, We must make Clear, When they give Lies, We Must give Clarity.

Spread this video to the World! It is good evidence that the attackers are not Pakistani or Pakistani linked. Pure home grown Indians!

 
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Everybody Listen and watch this video. Its the video of one of the attackers speaking to Indian News Channel. He has an Indian accent, uses Hindu Indian vocabulary like "Parivaar". The attacker even clearly says he is not a Muslim, denies links to Pakistan, and says he is from Hyderabad, India!!! These Attackers even have Indian Birth Certificates!!! Remember two of the attackers were arrested and the Indian army has discovered they actually are real Indians!

Again these attackers are purely Indian insiders. Please spread this video to the WORLD!!! We Must take Action, When they Enemy Provides Falsehood, We shall Provide Truth, When the Enemy makes Accusations, We must make Clear, When they give Lies, We Must give Clarity.

Spread this video to the World! It is good evidence that the attackers are not Pakistani or Pakistani linked. Pure home grown Indians!

QuaSIW62ZBY[/media] - Mumbai Attacks: Indian Militant speaks live on TV from Nariman house - Part 1

Can you give me a translation. If it's this good, then it's worth translating in its entirity.
 
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Unfortunately in most countries (including western ones) the media exists to sell itself, therefore the conduct and inclinations of the media are more usualy than not a shadow of how the larger population sees things/wants to see things. So at the end of the day it is an interesting outlook into the mindframe of the larger population itself.

I agree.U have pointed out it well.
 

MUMBAI, Dec 5: Round-the-clock news coverage of the Mumbai attacks has made Indians nervous but analysts said on Friday it was also stoking anti-Pakistan public opinion and risks shaping policy before elections due by May.

Psychiatrists in India’s financial hub are reporting increased cases of panic attacks and insomnia after last week’s attacks.

“There was no sense of balance or reasoning. The coverage was so jingoistic and nationalistic, they’ve pushed public opinion on Pakistan to a point of no return,” said Atul Phadnis, chief executive of consultancy Media e2e.

In the days since the attacks, the Indian flag is often used by broadcasters as a visual backdrop, with viewers’ text messages expressing anger at politicians or Pakistan ticking across the bottom of screens.

A big protest in Mumbai on Wednesday, organised by text messages and on Internet social network Facebook and radio, was proof of growing media influence on opinion, said B. Manjula, chair of the Centre for Media and Cultural Studies at the Tata Institute of Social Sciences.

“Everyone is being led to believe that by lighting a candle or carrying a poster they’ve done their part as a dutiful citizen without questioning whose opinion they are pandering to... their actions only make for great visuals for TV,” she said.

There are more than 60 English and regional-language news channels fighting for the attention of 80 million Indian homes. Most were launched in the last three years when a booming economy helped drive advertising revenues. But the fierce competition has also meant that less experienced journalists have been thrust into the field, Manjula said.

“This is a complex issue with various dimensions to it. Simply reducing it to ‘politicians are villains’ and ‘Pakistan is the enemy’ without discourse or debate is a deep failing of the media, but it does influence public opinion,” said Manjula.—Reuters
 

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