shah1398
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Ofcourse he is and come what may he has to.But your Uncle sam is providing you F 16....
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Ofcourse he is and come what may he has to.But your Uncle sam is providing you F 16....
If Pakistan can not afford F 16 tha they can not afford other russian and European planes. They will be left with no option but to buy it from China and may get J 10. I with India will be very happy if Pakistan have CHiese plane rather than the US , Russian or even European plane.
Ok be happy, just the way your entire defence establishment was happy when they found out that Chinese Yuan class sub (Pak supposed to get 8 of those), emerged in Karachi after lurking under your territorial waters for days without being spotted by your entire navy and their P-8 I's !!!
Foreign relations, diplomacy is all in government hands. Do not try to put the blame else where only because the current government is of PMLN.Sometimes its not in the hands of governments. Didn't you know they have more billionaires than any country in the world and they are the only country in our region to have good relations with Jews ? How about admitting Military is running National Security and they are the ones responsible for allowing OBL to hide in Pakistan and its their Foreign Ministry which is responsible for making Dr. Shakleel Afridi centre of attention.
On what grounds you are assuming that J-10 is much better then latest variants of F-16? Do you think that PAF have not evaluated J-10? They have and still chose JF-17 Thunder.Why does Pakistan spend 80 million on f16 when it can get better and more versatile fighters for 70 percent of the price with much better capabilities...even if induction costs are high for raising a new platform(due to which plans for j10b were dropped) we have inducted nearly 2 to 3 dozens new f16s....we could have saved a lot of cash....
Like America,s financial aid China was also ready to give Pakistan some discount on jet fighters....
Agreed!!there is another angle to it was well. The military guys must understand that the balance of International Relations has shifted in Asia right after indians agreed to be used as a vessel state against China militarily ever since the recent American Def. Min. visit to india.
This now changes everything. And dont even think any good from America since now this is the first of many things to come not just for Pakistan but for entire Asia as well.
This however gives us more avenues too and the Indian decision to grant them their land against China should be used to persuade the Chinese n specially Russians to seriously think to sell us more advanced stuff and build a strategic partnership as well. @Windjammer
Well sir that was a very interesting post but it was based on "if it was talking about WoT in FATA" whihc i was not "PHi,
Are you talking about the WOT in fata----what 'war proven' that is---there is no air to air combat---there is no surface to air missiles coming---there are no air aircraft batteries shooting at you---there are no dogfights----.
These strikes in Fata are like a video game---like any other training mission. Just like Prince Henry stated about his chopper missions---" it is like playing video games ".
Every equipment that is used by military is basically field tested as close to battle conditions that it could get to---once it is installed it is further tested during training---battle scenes are created to make sure everything works---so by default---everything in a fighter aircraft or otherwise is " battle tested "---regardless of it being the JF17---F16---J10---SU35 / 30 or whatever.
This battle tested term is an old acronym---modern technology---modern testing---modern simulators put the equipment thru real world scenarios all the time.
So---posters should re-consider using this term losely----.
No one inducts & deploys equipment that is not " battle tested ".
Hi,
You have missed the wordings of the deal signed before the start of wot.
PAF were also evaluating J10b for the same purpose.....Further more the so called "grounds" on which i am not assuming but quoting a statement of some of the jet experts, according to whom the J10 is 1/3 rd the price of f16 blk 52 and is equivalent in capabilities also having a little more qualitative advantage in some areas over the f16....regarding why Pakistan has not inducted it...refer to my earlier post...On what grounds you are assuming that J-10 is much better then latest variants of F-16? Do you think that PAF have not evaluated J-10? They have and still chose JF-17 Thunder.
PAF wants the latest variants of F-16 because they have capabilities that JF-17 Thunder does not have.
Sir,PAF were also evaluating J10b for the same purpose.....Further more the so called "grounds" on which i am not assuming but quoting a statement of some of the jet experts, according to whom the J10 is 1/3 rd the price of f16 blk 52 and is equivalent in capabilities also having a little more qualitative advantage in some areas over the f16....regarding why Pakistan has not inducted it...refer to my earlier post...
Of course, I agree with you but Airforce might have not inducted F16s without foreign aid...Equipment of China is at par with that of Russia, only Engine problems continue...so Chinese have used Russian Engines...Sir,
It is not just about the capabilities of the aircraft itself; equipment and gear are also important. There is something in American equipment and gear that China is not able to offer at the moment. Otherwise, PAF wouldn't have bothered with F-16s.
how USA ousted russians from afghanistan during cold war era ??
did they used there radars in pentagon and start killing russian installations??
who was supporting taliban at that time and providing assitance at that time ??
because west was afraid of increased communism
now after 9/11 islamiism
i would suggest indians don't stake your prosperity
stop supporting israel.
The most interesting part of your post is that @Muhammad Omar has thanked it........ very very interesting............
India always supported a 2 state solution, many Palestinian students are studying in Delhi. Israel is a important parter in defence. The issue is extremism just look what is happening on Bangladesh recently in regards to Killing minorities, secularist.