Pakistan may Purchase Chinese Surface-to-Air Missile System HQ-9

[Akasa]

S300 has 12 designated variants. what was it compared to?

Most likely S-300VM, if we are to go by available raw specifications and guidance. Of course, the HQ-9 has multiple variants as well.

 

[_NOBODY_]

In near future we should consider HQ-19(Anti-ballistic missile interceptor variant of HQ-9).
@Quwa @The Eagle @Bilal Khan 777 @SinoSoldier

 

[Akasa]

In near future we should consider HQ-19(Anti-ballistic missile interceptor variant of HQ-9).
@Quwa @The Eagle @Bilal Khan 777 @SinoSoldier

Why, because India tested an interceptor?

Rather, Pakistan's defense procurements should reflect the needs of its doctrine.

 

[monitor]

"China has provided Paskitan the HQ-2B Surface to Air Missile and the HQ-9 missiles. These are two stage missiles capable of intercepting high altitude targets like strategic bombers and spy planes and are equipped with countermeasures to defend a missile defence. HQ missiles have ‘expanded operational zone’, ‘shortened preparation time’, ‘simplified and mobile launch equipment’ and ‘ability to attack high speed targets’. HQ-9 is a long-range Surface to Air Missile to ‘counter high-performance aircraft, cruise missiles, air-to-surface missiles and tactical ballistic missiles’. "

The Sino-Pakistan Defence Deals: A Factfile | Official Website of the IIT Madras China Studies Centre

http://csc.iitm.ac.in/sites/default/files/home_featured/debalina.pdf


Source: https://defence.pk/threads/hq-9-surface-to-air-missile-and-pakistan-air-force.237643/#ixzz48wS4uFy8


AThree years old thread in pdf telling chinachina provided HQ-9

 

[RAMPAGE]

S300 has 12 designated variants. what was it compared to?

No idea, mate. Why don't you ask our Chinese friends who have repeatedly made this claim.

@wanglaokan

Can you help our friend here.

Also, I think there's no need for Baal ki khaal utaarna just for the heck of it, Don't you?

 

[_NOBODY_]

Why, because India tested an interceptor?

Rather, Pakistan's defense procurements should reflect the needs of its doctrine.

Actually no, I always thought that Pakistan should buy HQ-19 after 2020 but before 2025 or at least before 2030.

 

[Akasa]

Actually no, I always thought that Pakistan should buy HQ-19 after 2020 but before 2025 or at least before 2030.

The HQ-19 does not operate as a standalone system; it needs to be coupled with an ABM radar. Ballistic missile defense does not seem to be a component of Pakistan's defense paradigm yet, so the system would be of dubious use in the eyes of the brass.

 

[Indus Falcon]

S400 will ultimately be copied by China.

I think they won't do that this time. This time they will be smart, build a better system, and exploit the S400's weaknesses.

 

[Photon]

S400 will ultimately be copied by China.

In early 2000s , India bought 6 batteries(18 launchers) of S300 PMU2, for $1 billion, for ABM purposes, in a hush hush deal .

One and half decade down the line, Pakistan is considering, buying a Chinese variant of S 300.

When India is about to conclude a deal for 5 regiments (or 60 launchers) of S400 missiles.

For Pakistan to posses a Chinese copy of S400 ,China will have to first buy S400 , then copy it and then sell it to Pakistan.

Considering the time line, India would have long since moved on to S500 or another advanced SAM.

 

[帅的一匹]

In early 2000s , India bought 6 batteries(18 launchers) of S300 PMU2, for $1 billion, for ABM purposes, in a hush hush deal .

One and half decade down the line, Pakistan is considering, buying a Chinese variant of S 300.

When India is about to conclude a deal for 5 regiments (or 60 launchers) of S400 missiles.

For Pakistan to posses a Chinese copy of S400 ,China will have to first buy S400 , then copy it and then sell it to Pakistan.

Considering the time line, India would have long since moved on to S500 or another advanced SAM.

HQ9 is good enough to take your fighter down, pray for your pilot. This is stand off weapon with 120 KM range, make sure Pakistan can knock your fighter down even within India territory if they deploy it along the border.

 

[Photon]

HQ9 is good enough to take your fighter down, pray for your pilot. This is stand off weapon with 120 KM range, make sure Pakistan can knock your fighter down even within India territory if they deploy it along the border.

Since India has already been operating the original missile for decades, Indians know, how good it is.

On the other hand, India is moving on to a missile, which is better than this Chinese copy in every aspect, Can make entire Pakistani airspace, a virtual no fly zone.

 

[帅的一匹]

Since India has already been operating the original missile for decades, Indians know, how good it is.

On the other hand, India is moving on to a missile, which is better than this Chinese copy in every aspect, Can make entire Pakistani airspace, a virtual no fly zone.

China can sell Pakistan WS2D rocket launcher with 400 KM range,make sure all your S400 launcher being destroyed. When it is not a problem for China, neither it is a problem for Pakistan. Actually we have HQ19/26 for anti ABM purpose, it's not in the list of sale as yet. It depends how Agressively India plays.

 

[Photon]

China can sell Pakistan WS2D rocket launcher with 400 KM range,make sure all your S400 launcher being destroyed. When it is not a problem for China, neither it is a problem for Pakistan. Actually we have HQ19/26 for anti ABM purpose, it's not in the list of sale as yet. It depends how Agressively India plays.

Actually, you can't because for no one other than Chinese believe, in these exaggerated ranges.

No one, even wants to buy them, not even your closest allies.

 

[_NOBODY_]

The HQ-19 does not operate as a standalone system; it needs to be coupled with an ABM radar. Ballistic missile defense does not seem to be a component of Pakistan's defense paradigm yet, so the system would be of dubious use in the eyes of the brass.

I know that right now it is not possible and that is why I am saying that it should inducted after 2020 and before 2030 because until then our economy would be much better due to which we would be able to build a strong layer of air defenses and then we can induct HQ-19.

In early 2000s , India bought 6 batteries(18 launchers) of S300 PMU2, for $1 billion, for ABM purposes, in a hush hush deal .

One and half decade down the line, Pakistan is considering, buying a Chinese variant of S 300.

When India is about to conclude a deal for 5 regiments (or 60 launchers) of S400 missiles.

For Pakistan to posses a Chinese copy of S400 ,China will have to first buy S400 , then copy it and then sell it to Pakistan.

Considering the time line, India would have long since moved on to S500 or another advanced SAM.

HQ-9 has not much to do with S-300 but with MIM-104 as China got its hands on the technology of MIM-104. HQ-9 is superior to S-300 and if you don't believe me then here is the proof in Turkish T-LORAMIDS program Turkey rejected MIM-104, Aster and S-300 over HQ-9 despite having more than enough money for other air defence systems.

 

[Photon]

I know that right now it is not possible and that is why I am saying that it should inducted after 2020 and before 2030 because until then our economy would be much better due to which we would be able to build a strong layer of air defenses and then we can induct HQ-19.

HQ-9 has not much to do with S-300 but with MIM-104 as China got its hands on the technology of MIM-104. HQ-9 is superior to S-300 and if you don't believe me then here is the proof in Turkish T-LORAMIDS program Turkey rejected MIM-104, Aster and S-300 over HQ-9 despite having more than enough money for other air defence systems.

And they rejected HQ-9 too in favor of an indigenous SAM.