PAKISTAN MAY NEGOTIATE WITH UKRAINE FOR 100 OPLOT-M MAIN BATTLE TANKS

[Gryphon]

Remember long ago I told you something's coming ? It was from a source and some doubted my credibility when I said things are in motion.

I don't remember anything like that

The Oplot contract has not been signed yet. As Athar Abbas mentioned, it is still under trials / evaluation.

 

[Army research]

I don't remember anything like that

The Oplot contract has not been signed yet. As Athar Abbas mentioned, it is still under trials / evaluation.

It was in the haider mbt thread or something anyways , deal is advancing and most likely to conclude with the purchase of oplot

 

[Gryphon]

It was in the haider mbt thread or something anyways , deal is advancing and most likely to conclude with the purchase of oplot

It seems the VT4 has failed badly...

 

[HannibalBarca]

Collaborating on the Motor Sich MS-500V could be interesting. I'm not sure if Pakistan has any 3.5 to 6-ton helicopters in need of new engines right now. However, if Motor Sich can develop a 1,000+ kW version (they're at 800+ kW right now), then we'd have an alternative for the T-129...

http://www.motorsich.com/eng/products/aircraft/turboshaft/ms500v/

So if Heli engine is on the table... could we see a T-129 ToT (Frame) to Pakistan in the near future? Meaning Pakistan with a ToT from Turkey on the frame + new PAK engine = Indegenious Heli?
or for the Chinese one?

Maybe I'm lost...

 

[My-Analogous]

AL_what ?

Al Arjun Habibi

 

[Beast]

Even if test T-84 OPLOT had a engine failure could be a rectifiable issue as already its in widespread use in Pakistan and beat German, French and Chinese alternatives when chosen for Al-Khalid.
Ukrainian KMDB 6TD variant engines power the T-80UD, T-84 OPLOT and the Al-Khalid. It's already being fielded in huge numbers in PA and Pakistan is in process of getting TOT for it.
A newer 1500HP 6TD-3 variant has been offered to Pakistan.
http://quwa.org/2017/02/21/idex-2017-pakistan-ukraine-sign-agreement-co-produce-engines-tanks/

It's a very good tank, issue with Thailand delivery happened because of unstable situation in Ukraine. In event of a Pakistan order it is likely that there will be alot of tech transfer and local manufacture in Pakistan.

Nonsense, there are still large number of machinery and tools need to be transfer from Ukraine. The unstable situations in Ukraine will still affect everything. The Ukrainian is desperate in all situation and therefore make a lot of tall promise that is very unlikely to be delivered.

It seems the VT4 has failed badly...

Nonsense. RTA has claimed VT-4 is superior and even buying additional 10 mores. Thailand claim Ukraine tank is nothing but thrash. They regret buying Ukrainian stuff.

Same as Iraq army who claimed M1A2 serving them is very inferior. Even ISIS can easily knock them out. Iraq army are very impress with VT-4 and going for a big order together with HQ-9 SAM and CH-5 UCAV.

 

[tarrar]

Is the Oplot coming with ToT?

 

[Hassan Guy]

Is the Oplot coming with ToT?

it should, no way Ukraine has the capacity to deliver 100.

 

[Kompromat]

If im not wrong, the biggest interest in Oplot is not the tank but the 6TD-3 engine because we need a locally produced 1500hp engine for AK-2 and Ukrainians won't sell the engine tot without an oplot purchase. There's absolutely no interest in using 6TD-2 engine for upcoming tanks.

It can use Al-Khalid's 6TD-2 as well as the 1500 hp 6TD-3.

 

[hussain0216]

If im not wrong, the biggest interest in Oplot is not the tank but the 6TD-3 engine because we need a locally produced 1500hp engine for AK-2 and Ukrainians won't sell the engine tot without an oplot purchase. There's absolutely no interest in using 6TD-2 engine for upcoming tanks.

Its all about the engine

If we can get hands on that engine we are well set

 

[Arsalan]

It seems the VT4 has failed badly...

When they talk about Oplot read 6TD-3. The "interest" is mainly in that engine and it seems the Ukranians are not letting it go unless we buy a few tanks too. Oplot is a good tank too so i do not think army will mind it a lot either and we may see a few supporting those T-80s in PA with a new tank taking shape of AK-II or Al-Haider or whatever they end up calling it. Our T-80 do have some component commonality with the T-84s as well.

 

[Gryphon]

If im not wrong, the biggest interest in Oplot is not the tank but the 6TD-3 engine because we need a locally produced 1500hp engine for AK-2 and Ukrainians won't sell the engine tot without an oplot purchase. There's absolutely no interest in using 6TD-2 engine for upcoming tanks.

Yes, there is nothing as good as Ukrainian 6TD-3 which Pakistan can procure for AK-2, Al-Haider MBTs.

Ukraine has also been contracted to upgrade and overhaul Pakistani T-80UDs.T-80UD maintenance proved difficult for PA in the past.

As media reported earlier, Pakistan will manufacture spares for Ukrainian engines. Maybe, they want local production of Oplot's to simplify T-80UD maintenance to some extent in parallel.

 

[YeBeWarned]

very sensible choice, This tank is freakingly beauty and the Beast

 

[Zarvan]

very sensible choice, This tank is freakingly beauty and the Beast

I agree but it will have to first pass tests

 

[YeBeWarned]

I agree but it will have to first pass tests

It will, we give them list of things which need to be modified or change and they will do it to sale their tank ..most probably they already fix it and offer us again ..