India didn't even exist before 1947.. it was Bharat-- Hindustan-- the land of hindus.
Lol....ain't that funny....and I'm guessing the name India is actually copyright Pakistan?
Nope India did exist..
The English term is from Greek Ἰνδία, via Latin India. Ἰνδία in Byzantine (Koine Greek) ethnography denotes the region beyond the Ἰνδός river, since Herodotus (5th century BC) ἡ Ἰνδική χώρη "Indian land", Ἰνδός "an Indian", from Avestan Hindu (referring to Sindh, and listed as a conquered territory by Darius I in the Persepolis terrace inscription). The name is derived ultimately from Sindhu, the Sanskrit name of the river, but also meaning "river" generically. Latin India is used by Lucian (2nd century).
If you want I'll dig up scholarly sources, to back the above claim...
Hindustan --> means land of Hindus.. Hindus in persian means dark coloured... so it is the land of browns
.. but another theory exists..
The genesis of the word "Hindu", according to Dr. S. Radhakrishnan(Freedom Fighter)
"The Hindu civilization is so called since its original founders or earliest followers occupied the territory drained by the Sindhu (the Indus) River system corresponding to the Northwest Frontier Province and the Punjab. This is recorded in the Rig Veda, the oldest of the Vedas, the Hindu scriptures, which give their name to this period of Indian history. The people on the Indian side of the Sindhu were called Hindus by the Persians and the later Western invaders. That is the genesis of the word Hindu"
This is the definition of Hindus as given by Supreme Court of India and is accepted by all people who are living in India..
In 1995, Chief Justice P. B. Gajendragadkar was quoted in an Indian Supreme Court ruling...
When we think of the Hindu religion, we find it difficult, if not impossible, to define Hindu religion or even adequately describe it. Unlike other religions in the world, the Hindu religion does not claim any one prophet; it does not worship any one God; it does not subscribe to any one dogma; it does not believe in any one philosophic concept; it does not follow any one set of religious rites or performances; in fact, it does not appear to satisfy the narrow traditional features of any religion or creed. It may broadly be described as a way of life and nothing more.
I personally don't know why Pakistani are so stuck up on Hindus, clubbing them all together.. Hell these guys don't even in intermarry even if their castes are same.. and they have such different customs which change in every distt. IMO.. there is no rallying cry for Hindus as such.... I mean a Pakistani may be having more knoweledgeable(the wrong kind) of Hinduism than an avg HIndu himself.. I think these guys are **** when it comes to their religion..
I think HInduism is a treasure trove of knowledge.. which should be greedily used by one and all. I have read many Hinduism books and I have thoroughly enjoyed them..
Hinduism's main goal is acharya parmo dharma.. RIghtConduct/Morality/Ethics/Behaviour is the first religion...
If Hindus were so anti-Muslim the Muslim pop would have been allowed to reach the level of pre-partition time(percentage wise).... Look at China to see how they oppress Muslims but an avg Pakistani cannot and will not speak against them but we Indians are the fall boys..
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Well foreigners have a perspective of Indians being the same, a myopic viewpoint.
can ya differentiate b/w an Irish, an english, a welsh or the scot by looking at the foto?? mannerisms are different.. subcultures are more pronounced..
When I told one Iranian that I was Pakistani he was surprised, he thought pakistanis were very similar in appearence to Indians. I do agree that we have similarities, mainly in skin colour but I think most people can notice the difference.
By mannerisms you can... by physical differences nah mate.. go to any UNi's INTL society and see if you can tell apart Pakistanis from Indians....
In my experience Pakistanis are generally physically fitter, taller on average, skin tone between Indian Punjabis and Pakistani punjabis/azad kashmir is generally similar with Pakistanis having more fairer individuals.
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you guys are taller by how many inches?? are you as tall as a Dutch??
are fairer by how many shades?? are you as fair as even a Persian??
these are silly points to fight on..
in UK most of the Pakistanis are from Kashmir or Punjab and hence your view is skewed...
Oh and our women are by far hotter, you know thats true.
I have never seen anyone heard to look through the Burkha
(is that too below the belt??
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The way I usually tell apart Indians and Pakistanis is height and physical structure. Pakistanis being taller and more muscular.
I mean every tall and fit guy will be Pakistani.. do you want me to believe that every Pakistani is a look alike of Amir Khan(the boxer)??
dude anamolies exist everywhere.. if you can tell apart because of height etc.. but the others cannot.. you are looking at a small sample go to Pakistan and India..
it is to do with genetics as well.. the avg height of a UK born Asian is higher than their subconti counterparts because of better nutrition and optimal utilisation of their growth potential....
Never been to karachi but heard of MQM, sounds like a bunch of parasites who need to be exterminated.
a ha without meeting people from the biggest city of your country you have started judging...
Yes gujaratis they are a interesting lot, but even then they look different from Pakistanis.
they ought to.. though Amisha Patel and Upen Patel are Gujaratis so is Owais Shah...
Well just goto NWFP or Northern Areas of Kashmir and then goto south India, two different racesand any non ****/indian can tell that.
South Indian belong to Dravidian Race, Punjabis to Indo-Aryan Race and Pashtuns and Baloch to Iranic Race...
Pashtuns(not Punjabi Pathans) are much different from Punjabis too...
And no were not called Indians were called Pakistanis.
before 1947 all people in Pakistan and India and Bangladesh were called Indians and Pashtuns were called either Pashtuns or Afghans...
It's like saying French and Spanish are the same.
basque people are common to both and are different from Spanish catalonian and spanish spanish...(heard of Baracelona and Real Madrid Rivalry??)
even France has lots of variations.. Corsicans are def more Italian then French...
Well obviously appearence wise we have more in common then say chinese or english people but that doesn't mean we look the same.
Its not that every Pakistani looks similar to each other... but for all practical purposes Pakistani Punjabis look similar to North Indians.. Sindhi Pakistanis look similar to Rajasthani and Gujarati Indians.. Pashtun Pakistanis look similar to Afghanistanis and Baloch Pakistanis look Similar to Baloch Iranians..
Spanish and Scandinavian people are both of the European races yet they can look totally different.
Sindhis and Pashtuns are both Pakistani yet look totally different...
Within each race there's alot of sub races that are different to each other.
Sub race?
there are differences because of genetics.. a race means a common ancestor or a group of common ancestors .. rest is just genetics and addition of outside specimens etc..
Like for example.. you marry a fair light eyed kashmiri(not the Mirpuri 1).. your kids genes will be fundamentally altered,,, so your descendants at times may have the sudden appearance of some Kashmiri characterisitics etc.... or cousins marry amongst themselves etc.
that is why the jatts/tirkhans say we are not a caste but a race
lol backwards? At least we don't believe in caste.
If I prove it is practised by Muslims in south asia ???
Yes but many do not abide by the laws..
proved yo self backwards.. heard of Bradford/Southall/Leicester?? been there?? one is a Muslim the other Sikh the third Hindu pieca crap.. except the food these are all shyt areas full of Backward people...
I'm from Birmingham, near Nottingham.
Bham is nice.. a lot tougher than other areas, a friend was mugged,
Soho Road is crazy...
Yup see you can tell apart british born indians/pakis very easily. That shows to me there's something different.
different In their subculture, make 'em all sit in the same clothes and hair style and facial hair then they all ought to the look the same...
As for desis well I don't have much experience so im not sure about your friend. Would be easier if I had a full frontal photo showing height.
~5'11"-6'
Still I admit I find it hard, that is due to me being unfamiliar with desis though someone familiar with desis should know.
Mate the thing is.. if a non desi can pik 'em out.. then we are different else we are same...
