Pakistan India Border Skirmish 1958 East Pakistan

[khair_ctg]

But the discussion here is a special "bangladeshi" culture which is entirely unique to bangladesh, as asserted by one member... he is claiming it is different than anything found in india

It's not about comprehension as I quoted why you have no "special problem"? This is obviously denotes that you don't really have a MAJOR problem, but have some kind. So you might as well drop the clever act. "Keno Beno". Secondly the cultural differences is something you will never be able to make out because you willingly block anything that is different from your culture.

Food habits, linguistic differences all come into play. You stated INDIAN culture so the differences wil be VAST. We are meat eaters, many of you are not. Bangladeshi dialects and particularly the Sylheti and CTG dialects have a lot of loanwords in everyday speaking...

India might have all the things found in Bangladesh, and Bangladesh might have some of the things found in India, but the relative significance of each of them is different. we do know some things considered Indian may also be considered Pakistani or Bangladeshi. all the things that make Bangladesh and all the things that make India are different.

I dont give a F what you Pakis living in BD think about us. Okay?
Some of you razakars and razakar descendants wish sinister for BD and dont believe in BD identity. Nothing to do with you guys. You are non existent for us. And you are doing more bad than good to the parties you put faith in. Aka BNP JI. Most of the guys of this forum whom are your similar mindset show their allegiance there. So its no brainier to choose patriotic people to see his last option even its evil. And I know in real life BNP people who will strip you naked and beat to death for your mind. Some of you were born in PK and were shocked to see sudden change in your nationality. And couldnt decide whom to support in war time. That is ok. But whom you fcked and kicked Bengalis must die. And rest of you just shut off and retain your unconditional support for BD. Or get the F off from BD. Its part our family made BD. And we are grown from childhood with large amount of ammunition. So if needed my generation will use that again if necessity arisen.

the very existence of this political system called Bangladesh is oppression to every Bangladeshi. you do not support that East Pakistan had a right to exist. Indian hegemony and Hindu supremacism may be what you belive in. i don't see how you are in favour of Bangladeshis.

the only way you can make sense of East Pakistan's "liberation" by India is by demanding a geographically bigger West Pakistan/Pakistan nation to migrate all former East Pakistani people there.

 

[bongbang]

the only way you can make sense of East Pakistan's "liberation" by India is by demanding a geographically bigger West Pakistan/Pakistan nation to migrate all former East Pakistani people there.

Go all you idiots, razakars, terrorists, traitors. Its better for us if BD population becomes half. Anyway Muhajirs are are in worse condition there so they wont take you either. So no luck for you guys.

the very existence of this political system called Bangladesh is oppression to every Bangladeshi. you do not support that East Pakistan had a right to exist. Indian hegemony and Hindu supremacism may be what you belive in. i don't see how you are in favour of Bangladeshis.

As I said you are non existent. So dont waste ours time in bull$hit. Our generation who were born in BD, why will they give a Fck, if it was EP or lalaland before? And before EP it was Bengal. It makes more sense of a greater Bengal than a momentary EP.

 

[Md Akmal]

Go all you idiots, razakars, terrorists, traitors. Its better for us if BD population becomes half. Anyway Muhajirs are are in worse condition there so they wont take you either. So no luck for you guys.



As I said you are non existent. So dont waste ours time in bull$hit. Our generation who were born in BD, why will they give a Fck, if it was EP or lalaland before? And before EP it was Bengal. It makes more sense of a greater Bengal than a momentary EP.

@ @bongbang, what I find you are jumping too much on your belief but the reality is some thing else. East Pakistan was not a momentary my dear friend. It was struggle for 190 years starting from 1757 till 1947. You will not under stand the charm of "Narai Tagbir Allah O Akbar". The sound impact was so much that near by old "Mandirs" broke away.

@ It was in the year 1943, some school friends from Rajshahi went to Maldaha town to meet their relatives. At that time it was Muslim majority area. They went to take some sweets in Hindu Hotel and after taking the sweets they asked for "Pani". Then the "maychier" said "pani ki dada O jal". They were not given water as they were Muslims. Finally they were given water by pouring from up and the individual took water by closing their hands. The students were surprised to see that.

@ My grand father once went to Barisal for business purpose. Their he saw that slaughtering of cows were prohibited. No beef was found in the market. The restriction was imposed by the local Hindu Zaminder.

@ My father went to Rangpur to get himself admitted in a school he was surprised to see that there were four types of schools. One for all British oriented school, one for Bhrahmon, one for Khothro etc.

 

[Md Akmal]

@ @bongbang, what I find you are jumping too much on your belief but the reality is some thing else. East Pakistan was not a momentary my dear friend. It was struggle for 190 years starting from 1757 till 1947. You will not under stand the charm of "Narai Tagbir Allah O Akbar". The sound impact was so much that near by old "Mandirs" broke away.

@ It was in the year 1943, some school friends from Rajshahi went to Maldaha town to meet their relatives. At that time it was Muslim majority area. They went to take some sweets in Hindu Hotel and after taking the sweets they asked for "Pani". Then the "maychier" said "pani ki dada O jal". They were not given water as they were Muslims. Finally they were given water by pouring from up and the individual took water by closing their hands. The students were surprised to see that.

@ My grand father once went to Barisal for business purpose. Their he saw that slaughtering of cows were prohibited their. No beef was found in the market. The restriction was imposed by the local Hindu Zaminder.

@ My father went to Rangpur to get himself admitted he was surprised to see that there were four types of schools. One for all British oriented school, one for Bhrahmon, one for Khothro etc.

@ In our area there was one "Hindu Tonko Nath",Zamindar, no body dared to cross his house. If anybody dares to cross his house he has to pick up his shoes in his hand and make the "lungi" as "languti", and finally make his or her head down and slowly pass away. This I heard from my father.

@ This Hindu zamindar used to go to District town twice in a week on the Elephant. That elephant had a big "Ghonta" on her neck. It used to make huge sound. By hearing the sound the people used to run left and right and if some one is found he used to bow his head. No body dared to see his face.

@ My grand father was a "minor"(class-5) pass. Once he went to Thana level school, he was not allowed to seat at the front and through out his school career he used to seat at the back. 95 % school teachers were Hindus. No muslim children were allowed to go in "Pathshala", it was being build for the Hindu students. Muslim kids used to go in "Maktob".

 

[Saiful Islam]

Go all you idiots, razakars, terrorists, traitors. Its better for us if BD population becomes half. Anyway Muhajirs are are in worse condition there so they wont take you either. So no luck for you guys.



As I said you are non existent. So dont waste ours time in bull$hit. Our generation who were born in BD, why will they give a Fck, if it was EP or lalaland before? And before EP it was Bengal. It makes more sense of a greater Bengal than a momentary EP.

Your generation sure as hell would not like the two Bengals to unite. Muhajirs aren't being treated badly in fact a Muhajir party (MQM) and their terrorist/gangster methods is the problem. Karachi has many Bengalis the famous one being Machar colony.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Your generation sure as hell would not like the two Bengals to unite. Muhajirs aren't being treated badly in fact a Muhajir party (MQM) and their terrorist/gangster methods is the problem. Karachi has many Bengalis the famous one being Machar colony.

You missed, Chittagong cloney, and Bengali Para,there are about 3 million Bengalis in Pakistan majority of them came after 1980's,some of them even have got Govt Services.

 

[Zabaniyah]

That is what i was doing, basically....

Did you, now...?

 

[Saiful Islam]

You missed, Chittagong cloney, and Bengali Para,there are about 3 million Bengalis in Pakistan majority of them came after 1980's,some of them even have got Govt Services.

One of my Dads cousins were in Pakistan back in the late 70's he was in prison and then crossed over to Iran. Since then we don't know of his whereabouts, everyone has accepted that he is dead.

 

[ares]

One of my Dads cousins were in Pakistan back in the late 70's he was in prison and then crossed over to Iran. Since then we don't know of his whereabouts, everyone has accepted that he is dead.

LOL

How many Dads do you have?

 

[khair_ctg]

Your generation sure as hell would not like the two Bengals to unite. Muhajirs aren't being treated badly in fact a Muhajir party (MQM) and their terrorist/gangster methods is the problem. Karachi has many Bengalis the famous one being Machar colony.

bongbang should say how Muhajirs have been treated in BD because of 'Bengali' nationalist fundamentalism fuelled by illiteracy and overall backwardness. at least a muhajir is still today's Pakistan's father of nation

 

[bongbang]

@ @bongbang, what I find you are jumping too much on your belief but the reality is some thing else. East Pakistan was not a momentary my dear friend. It was struggle for 190 years starting from 1757 till 1947. You will not under stand the charm of "Narai Tagbir Allah O Akbar". The sound impact was so much that near by old "Mandirs" broke away.

@ It was in the year 1943, some school friends from Rajshahi went to Maldaha town to meet their relatives. At that time it was Muslim majority area. They went to take some sweets in Hindu Hotel and after taking the sweets they asked for "Pani". Then the "maychier" said "pani ki dada O jal". They were not given water as they were Muslims. Finally they were given water by pouring from up and the individual took water by closing their hands. The students were surprised to see that.

@ My grand father once went to Barisal for business purpose. Their he saw that slaughtering of cows were prohibited. No beef was found in the market. The restriction was imposed by the local Hindu Zaminder.

@ My father went to Rangpur to get himself admitted in a school he was surprised to see that there were four types of schools. One for all British oriented school, one for Bhrahmon, one for Khothro etc.

I understand. When occasionally like Eids we go on streets and shoot our guns in the sky for fun. Also many things break. Fun aside. Those same people who made EP. They also made BD for same reason. Also those same people killed Sheikh Mujib and Zia. Assume that there were 10 men. 8 made EP. Then 9 made BD.

So whom we majority people created BD why should we hear your rants? Neither I created BD nor EP. I was born in BD. So why I should be a traitor or do everything to protect our sovereignty.

On another note I can agree that Islam dont allow to create nations. So if we didnt divide our nation on the first place in 1947 many problems could be avoided. We chose a major problem instead of minor solution. How irony. Muslim people were insulted and weak. But they wouldn't get killed during partition. Or in Bengal, Punjab, Baluchistan, Afghan provinces, UP, Bihar, Kashmir or in south. And never had occurred tragedy of BD in 1971. What is done is done.

bongbang should say how Muhajirs have been treated in BD because of 'Bengali' nationalist fundamentalism fuelled by illiteracy and overall backwardness. at least a muhajir is still today's Pakistan's father of nation

I feel sad for you Muhajirs. But you did atrocities on your host people. And believed in Pakistan so why expect better in BD where we majority people created it. But on another note you guys got nationality and can vote now. And see Bihari origin people who adopted Bengali culture are in better position. BD cricket team members like Tamim, Akram, Atahar are Bihari origin. Also some people are winning local poles. But we shouldnt ever make the same mistake as Pakistan. Muhajirs should adopt local culture and forget about their foreign ancestry. Also we should promote people like Pakistan's founder who were less religious but sympathetic to the people and forward looking.

Your generation sure as hell would not like the two Bengals to unite.

They wouldnt regret to separate from Pakistan either. 70% Bangladeshis are positive about India while 50% about Pakistan.

 

[Saiful Islam]

I understand. When occasionally like Eids we go on streets and shoot our guns in the sky for fun. Also many things break. Fun aside. Those same people who made EP. They also made BD for same reason. Also those same people killed Sheikh Mujib and Zia. Assume that there were 10 men. 8 made EP. Then 9 made BD.

So whom we majority people created BD why should we hear your rants? Neither I created BD nor EP. I was born in BD. So why I should be a traitor or do everything to protect our sovereignty.

On another note I can agree that Islam dont allow to create nations. So if we didnt divide our nation on the first place in 1947 many problems could be avoided. We chose a major problem instead of minor solution. How irony. Muslim people were insulted and weak. But they wouldn't get killed during partition. Or in Bengal, Punjab, Baluchistan, Afghan provinces, UP, Bihar, Kashmir or in south. And never had occurred tragedy of BD in 1971. What is done is done.



I feel sad for you Muhajirs. But you did atrocities on your host people. And believed in Pakistan so why expect better in BD where we majority people created it. But on another note you guys got nationality and can vote now. And see Bihari origin people who adopted Bengali culture are in better position. BD cricket team members like Tamim, Akram, Atahar are Bihari origin. Also some people are winning local poles. But we shouldnt ever make the same mistake as Pakistan. Muhajirs should adopt local culture and forget about their foreign ancestry. Also we should promote people like Pakistan's founder who were less religious but sympathetic to the people and forward looking.




They wouldnt regret to separate from Pakistan either. 75% Bangladeshis are positive about India while 50% about Pakistan.

Where did those stats pop up from? Our people wouldn't dream to unite with a Hindu Bengal, which planet are you on? As far as I know khair bhai is from CTG and a Bengali correct me I'm wrong.

 

[bongbang]

Where did those stats pop up from? Our people wouldn't dream to unite with a Hindu Bengal, which planet are you on? As far as I know khair bhai is from CTG and a Bengali correct me I'm wrong.

I dont know why you Pakistani lovers cant tolerate the truth. When who said someone is interested join or divide? We dont want to join or dont consider them as our threat. Not from this side or from other side.

 

[khair_ctg]

I understand. When occasionally like Eids we go on streets and shoot our guns in the sky for fun. Also many things break. Fun aside. Those same people who made EP. They also made BD for same reason. Also those same people killed Sheikh Mujib and Zia. Assume that there were 10 men. 8 made EP. Then 9 made BD.

So whom we majority people created BD why should we hear your rants? Neither I created BD nor EP. I was born in BD. So why I should be a traitor or do everything to protect our sovereignty.

On another note I can agree that Islam dont allow to create nations. So if we didnt divide our nation on the first place in 1947 many problems could be avoided. We chose a major problem instead of minor solution. How irony. Muslim people were insulted and weak. But they wouldn't get killed during partition. Or in Bengal, Punjab, Baluchistan, Afghan provinces, UP, Bihar, Kashmir or in south. And never had occurred tragedy of BD in 1971. What is done is done.



I feel sad for you Muhajirs. But you did atrocities on your host people. And believed in Pakistan so why expect better in BD where we majority people created it. But on another note you guys got nationality and can vote now. And see Bihari origin people who adopted Bengali culture are in better position. BD cricket team members like Tamim, Akram, Atahar are Bihari origin. Also some people are winning local poles. But we shouldnt ever make the same mistake as Pakistan. Muhajirs should adopt local culture and forget about their foreign ancestry. Also we should promote people like Pakistan's founder who were less religious but sympathetic to the people and forward looking.




They wouldnt regret to separate from Pakistan either. 70% Bangladeshis are positive about India while 50% about Pakistan.

what i feel is Muhajirs in Bangladesh do maintain their heritage and should continue to do so (even though officially they are invisible), because for one, Bangladesh is not North Korea as you wish.

there should be no amnesty given to anyone with records of hate crimes on patriotic Bengalis and Muhajirs based on political hatred of own country (East Pakistan) or blatant racist attitudes somewhat seen in bongbang's posts.

some notable Muhajirs you mentioned doing well has nothing to do with adopting a culture that is foreign even to Bengali Muslims.

the Muslim-identifying Hindus on PDF should try adopting the very concept the nation is based on, i.e. BD exists equally for the original Muslim inhabitants as well as all the Muslims who settled here.

Hindus like you should start looking up places to live in India. since the Hindutva Modi is in power, this is a better time.

@Saiful Islam countless Bengalis from the old educated-aristocratic Muslim class had to leave Bangladesh for (West) Pakistan and even India since 1947. the reason is the same as that for non-Bengali mohajirs. the likes of bongbang have nothing to do with "Bengali". they are all about Hindu supremacism. to both Bengali and Muhajir Muslims: adopt Brahmin culture or flee.

I dont know why you Pakistani lovers cant tolerate the truth. When who said someone is interested join or divide? We dont want to join or dont consider them as our threat. Not from this side or from other side.

you cannot be a Bangladesh lover without being the lover of the very framework Bangladeshis founded and Bangladesh rests on, i.e. United Pakistan.

 

[bongbang]

Maloons like you should start looking up places to live in India. since the Hindutva Modi is in power, this is a better time.

@Saiful Islam countless Bengalis from the old educated-aristocratic class had to leave Bangladesh for (West) Pakistan and even India since 1947. the reason is the same as that for non-Bengali mohajirs. the likes of bongbang have nothing to do with "Bengali". they are all about Hindu supremacism. to both Bengali and Muhajir Muslims: adopt Brahmin culture or flee.

Dude can you remember other day I said to bring rebellion on us and oust us Bengalis, what about that? Can you torn a bal? And why we have our private army for? In one sense Im also a Muhajir from Murshidabad and Comilla, now in Khulna. What has gone wrong, we are the dominant people here no one opposed us but why you Muhajirs and Razakar Bengalis?