Pakistan in danger of falling into China’s “debt trap”

[ramu]

Lol........lol......that is the same guy (even though he is Pakistani himself) that once said Pakistan would NEVER EVER become a nuclear weapons state...............

NEED strong evidence that CPEC will badly affect Pakistan's economy not opinions and meaningless conjecture from laymen.......

PS About the East india company???.....the Chinese are not the British and Pakstanis are not indian.......

Wow. So you are now saying that the entire discussion is baseless not even worth considering the implications of a deal that your politicians are not willing to go public.

So, was Pakistan not a part of british colony? Delusional. Did they teach you about independence movement in Indian sub continent at school or were you in a madrasa?

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Wow. So you are now saying that the entire discussion is baseless not even worth considering the implications of a deal that your politicians are not willing to go public.

So, was Pakistan not a part of british colony? Delusional. Did they teach you about independence movement in Indian sub continent at school or were you in a madrasa?

Pakistan in it's current form did not exist then. We were a people in transition like the Jews/israelis in Europe during WW2 So the British could not have been "ruling" Pakistan

PS Was born, raised and educated in London the UK. What's wrong with a Madrassah? Does your mama or wife like getting pleasure there?...........

Or do you detest it because of inherent physical defiencies of men of the indian race....:


https://m.mensxp.com/special-featur...e-the-second-smallest-penis-in-the-world.html

 

[ramu]

Pakistan in it's current form did not exist then. We were a people in transition like the Jews/israelis in Europe during WW2 So the British could not have been "ruling" Pakistan

Yes Pak came into existence only in 1947. But the people of Pak did not appear from nowhere. They were part of a british colony called India. Unfortunately you cannot change DNA, history or your neighbours.

So the people across the non existant international border before 1947 were in transition while the other side of the non existant international border were indians. Now I get a measure of your version of history. Please dont confuse this with humour as I think most people reading it will do.

Credit where its due. Your humour is better than your knowledge or IQ. Ignoring your inability to stay on topic.

 

[Chaosmaster]

If China can't make this project work China will lose everything having an empty port, same as India having an empty airport there.

There are certain countries where China's countries strategic interests are more important than monetary profits. Those locations are Venezuela, Pakistan and sri lanka.
Do you think that when china gave loans to Venezuela they had repayment in mind? Even when Venezuela was in a stage of financial breakdown china kept on providing loans. China was seeing at losses but they had their eye on their oil. So when Venezuela couldn't pay them in money, china demanded oil instead at discounted rate.

In case of sri Lankan hambantota port, why did china invest in there when there is a perfectly capable, well capable and established Colombo port a few NM away? Did they really think that traffic would start coming there? No they didn't, Chinese aren't fools to think so. Again their strategic interest of getting a port (which possibly get converted to a naval base In future) close to India prevailed. And when sri lanka couldn't pay back, they achieved their objective. Yes, sri lanka refused to allow them to use a military base but still they can use it observe and gather intelligence.
I ask you what China did to make this project profitable? India is not there to make money, our objective was clear, its to keep an eye on china's port.

Similarly in the case of Pakistan, there is Karachi port nearby and its used extensively, generates a lot of business. Why Gwadar then? Because its located at the mouth of Gulf of Oman and china imports a major share of their oil from there. Today if china's oil reaches them going through the indian ocean and reaches SCS through the strait of Malacca, after Gwadar its all gonna through that port and directly to mainland china bypassing indian ocean. Its a win win for china. If the port generates revenue, china makes money and still gets to import oil from oil, if it doesn't china still gets to import oil. China doesn't has anything to loose in Gwadar, they just want a safer route for their oil which they are getting. But ask yourself what if it doesn't make money? How do you repay the staggering amount?

 

[ramu]

Pakistan borrows $500 million from China to shore up its reserves
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...hore-up-its-reserves/articleshow/62958598.cms

Pakistan in talks with China to borrow $1b
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1651922/2-pakistan-talks-china-borrow-1b/

Just like what we did in the 80's and 90's from Japan when we were developing our economy. We borrowed so much loans from Japan during those years.

Keep an eye on interest rates here. It will be 6 to 8%. Singapore borrows from China in the form of soft loans / assistance at 2%.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Yes Pak came into existence only in 1947. But the people of Pak did not appear from nowhere. They were part of a british colony called India. Unfortunately you cannot change DNA, history or your neighbours.

So the people across the non existant international border before 1947 were in transition while the other side of the non existant international border were indians. Now I get a measure of your version of history. Please dont confuse this with humour as I think most people reading it will do.

Credit where its due. Your humour is better than your knowledge or IQ. Ignoring your inability to stay on topic.

But the people of modern day Pakistan predominantly have a dna connection to the people that have ALWAYS lived in the land that is modern day Pakistan. That is different to modern day indians. It explains why a Pathan looks NOTHING like how most indians do. It also explains why the vast majority of indians and Pakistanis lool so vastly different.

By the way, the indian racial IQ is lower than that of Pakistan:

https://iq-research.info/en/average-iq-by-country

 

[ramu]

But the people of modern day Pakistan predominantly have a dna connection to the people that have ALWAYS lived in the land that is modern day Pakistan. That is different to modern day indians. It explains why a Pathan looks NOTHING like how most indians do. It also explains why the vast majority of indians and Pakistanis lool so vastly different.

By the way, the indian racial IQ is lower than that of Pakistan:

https://iq-research.info/en/average-iq-by-country

Any links to prove your DNA claims? I have enough to counter. LoL

By the way, the indian racial IQ is lower than that of Pakistan:

https://iq-research.info/en/average-iq-by-country

And yet CEO of Microsoft and Google were born and educated in India

 

[volatile]

Stop this propaganda spread ,With Chinese model they have more to loose then to gain

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Any links to prove your DNA claims? I have enough to counter. LoL



And yet CEO of Microsoft and Google were born and educated in India

Post your links that prove Pakistanis are the same race as indians.

Also, disprove this:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.th...yan-migration-debate/article19090301.ece/amp/


With nearly 1.4 billion indians, a handful will make it to the top. What matters though is the race or races that are the inventors, pioneers, indigenous producers and creators of advanced sciences and technologies. The indian race is not. The White and East Asian races are.

 

[ramu]

Stop this propaganda spread ,With Chinese model they have more to loose then to gain

What did they lose in Srilanka when Srilanka defaulted on payment?

 

[volatile]

DO you know what sort of deals are done with Pakistan and do you think CHina wants to manage 200 Mil .The point here is with Sri lanka model being for the Chinese since major work load was Chinese vessels in this case China has more to loose then to gain

What did they lose in Srilanka when Srilanka defaulted on payment?

 

[ramu]

Post your links that prove Pakistanis are the same race as indians.

Also, disprove this:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.th...yan-migration-debate/article19090301.ece/amp/


With nearly 1.4 billion indians, a handful will make it to the top. What matters though is the race or races that are the inventors, pioneers, indigenous producers and creators of advanced sciences and technologies. The indian race is not. The White and East Asian races are.

Instead of posting any new links, I will use your link.
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multiple studies in different disciplines have arrived at one specific period as an important marker in the history of India: around 2000 B.C. According to the Priya Moorjani et al study, this is when population mixing began on a large scale, leaving few population groups anywhere in the subcontinent untouched. The Onge in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands are the only ones we know to have been completely unaffected by what must have been a tumultuous period. And according to the David Poznik et al study of 2016 on the Y-chromosome, 2000 B.C. is around the time when the dominant R1a subclade in India, Z93, began splintering in a “most striking” manner, suggesting “rapid growth and expansion”.
}

So where is the international border in 2000BC and where is Islam then?

DO you know what sort of deals are done with Pakistan and do you think CHina wants to manage 200 Mil .The point here is with Sri lanka model being for the Chinese since major work load was Chinese vessels in this case China has more to loose then to gain

The point is not whether I know or not. The issue is no one knows. it is however reported in China that it is on the lines of international debt financing policy of China same as in Srilanka.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Instead of posting any new links, I will use your link.
Quote Start {
multiple studies in different disciplines have arrived at one specific period as an important marker in the history of India: around 2000 B.C. According to the Priya Moorjani et al study, this is when population mixing began on a large scale, leaving few population groups anywhere in the subcontinent untouched. The Onge in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands are the only ones we know to have been completely unaffected by what must have been a tumultuous period. And according to the David Poznik et al study of 2016 on the Y-chromosome, 2000 B.C. is around the time when the dominant R1a subclade in India, Z93, began splintering in a “most striking” manner, suggesting “rapid growth and expansion”.
}

So where is the international border in 2000BC and where is Islam then?



The point is not whether I know or not. The issue is no one knows. it is however reported in China that it is on the lines of international debt financing policy of China same as in Srilanka.

EXACTLY.....The point is the people who have always inhabited the area that is modern day Pakistan were ALWAYS different to the inhabitants of modern day india EVEN before the advent of Islam. If explains why most Pakistanis look so physically different to indians.

 

[ramu]

EXACTLY.....The point is the people who have always inhabited the area that is modern day Pakistan were ALWAYS different to the inhabitants of modern day india EVEN before the advent of Islam. If explains why most Pakistanis look so physically different to indians.

Just a problem with your reading and comprehension. Except Andaman every area was affected in the period close to 2000BC. Now coming back to your theory of people in transition. Your post is a joke just to win by hook or crook. No evidence, just google a random article and post. You even forgot to remove the google crosslink. LoL

Where "exactly" does it corroborate your theory of people in transition during partition in 1947?

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Just a problem with your reading and comprehension. Except Andaman every area was affected in the period close to 2000BC. Now coming back to your theory of people in transition. Your post is a joke just to win by hook or crook. No evidence, just google a random article and post. You even forgot to remove the google crosslink. LoL

So then where is YOUR evidence that Pakistanis and indians are the same race? Hard evidence not mere conjecture.