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Pakistan hits back after Pence remarks
By Kamran Yousuf
Published: December 22, 2017
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ISLAMABAD: Pakistan and the United States engaged in verbal duel on Friday after Vice President Mike Pence claimed that the Trump administration had put Islamabad on notice to act against alleged terrorist safe havens on its soil.

The harshest comment from Pence during his surprise visit to Afghanistan drew equally strong rejoinder from the Foreign Office, which hit back at the US by asking it to put those on notice who were responsible for exponential increase in “drug production, expansion of ungoverned spaces, industrial scale corruption, breakdown of governance and letting Da’ish gain a foothold” in Afghanistan.

Addressing US troops at the Bagram airfield, Pence said: “For too long has Pakistan provided safe haven to the Taliban and many terrorist organisations, but those days are over.”

“President Trump has put Pakistan on notice. As the president said, so I say now: Pakistan has much to gain from partnering with the United States, and Pakistan has much to lose by continuing to harbour criminals and terrorists,” he added.

But within hours of his strong statement, the Foreign Office came up with a stinging reply by suggesting allies “do not put each other on notice”.

“The statement is at variance with the extensive conversations we have had with the US administration,” the Foreign Office statement pointed out.

“On notice should be those factors responsible for the exponential increase in drug production, expansion of ungoverned spaces, industrial scale corruption, breakdown of governance, and letting Da’ish gain a foothold in Afghanistan,” it further stated.

“Also on focus should be: creating peace and reconciliation mechanisms. [And] finally, externalising blame should be put on notice.”
Pakistan has much to lose by harbouring ‘criminals and terrorists’, warns US vice president

The verbal exchange suggested simmering tensions between the two ostensible allies that have been struggling to develop a consensus on how to end the 16-year-old lingering conflict in Afghanistan.

At the heart of problem is Washington’s repeated claims that Islamabad is still harbouring certain militant outfits, including the Haqqani network.

Pakistan, however, is adamant that it has done more than any other country in the fight against terrorism. Also it questions the new approach adopted by the Trump administration that seeks greater role for India in Afghanistan.

Meanwhile, the issue of growing tensions between Pakistan and US also came up for debate at the Senate Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs, which met at the Parliament House on Friday.

Some opposition senators voiced concerns that the US could take a unilateral action as it did in the case of Osama bin Laden against Jamaatud Dawa chief Hafiz Saeed.

PPP Senator Farhatullah Babar said the reminder by the US that Hafiz Saeed was a terrorist who carried head money of $10 million was preceded by the Trump administration new policy containing, for the first time, the element of unilateral action against militants and expressed concern over this juxtaposition.

“Bin Laden carried head money of $25 million and was taken out by a unilateral action by Navy SEALs without prior warning whereas now a specific declaration had been made and the two statements ominously juxtaposed together,” Babar added.

Reminding that Gen (retd) Pervez Musharraf had banned Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) but was now publicly defending Hafiz Saeed, Babar said such statements directly played into the hands of those who accuse Pakistan of harbouring militants.

He said, “For far too long we have been saying that action will be taken if information about terrorists is provided but it has not cut the ice.”

The senator asked if the state was prepared to carry forward investigations into cross-border attacks by militants allegedly based in Pakistan as a step forward.

Senator Mushahid Hussain Sayed spoke on recent threats hurled by US authorities – including the one that Pakistan could lose territory to militant groups, insisting Pakistan should take those threats seriously.

But Foreign Secretary Tehmina Janjua played down such statements as mere threats. She dismissed the charges that there were any safe havens of terrorists on the Pakistani soil.

The secretary claimed that Pakistan had done more than the US demanded. She also made it clear that the US administration needs to address Pakistan’s concerns too.

Without naming India, the foreign secretary pointed out that Pakistan was a victim of state terrorism by an ‘enemy’ country.


Read more: Foreign Office , Latest , Mike Pence
 
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Good response, don't let any statements pass without a strong response. Put US on notice regarding CSF and supply routes.
 
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Not just FO, the DG ISPR response was even more hard hitting...


US threats against Pakistan can 'negatively affect' existing cooperation: DG ISPR
Dawn.comUpdated December 23, 2017


Director General Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor has said that the United States' threats against Pakistan with respect to the latter's alleged support for militant groups can harm the existing coordination and cooperation between the two countries.

Ghafoor when asked to comment on recent threats by US officials, including the warning that US President Donald Trump has "put Pakistan on notice", said that the state responds to such statements through diplomatic and Foreign Office channels. He, however, made it clear that such threats can "negatively affect" the existing cooperation.

He was talking to DawnNews on Friday in its programme Dusra Rukh.

Talking about the issue of US funding to Pakistan, he said that the payments were made under the Coalition Support Fund, which in its essence was "reimbursement" of the amount Pakistan had already spent in the war against terrorism, "under their [the US] coordination".

"If they [the US] demand us to fight for them because they paid us, [then they should know that] Pakistan is not fighting for money," he said. "We are not looking for any money, we are not for sale, a trust-based relationship is the only way forward," he added.

He highlighted that Pakistan has been cooperating with the US significantly over the years in the war against terrorism. He claimed that the US would be unable to defeat Al Qaeda without Pakistan's support.

Pakistan has supported the US before and after 9/11, he said, adding that the relations should be kept intact.

"Allies and partners do not give notices to each other, neither do they indulge in a blame game," he said.

Ghafoor said a dialogue should be held through foreign or military diplomacy to build trust and hoped that relations with the US will continue.

Talking about the reasons behind the US's threatening tone and pressing demands to do more, he said the issue of gains [in the war against terrorism] is linked with local "environment". He elaborated that the Pakistan Army defeated terrorists within the country, keeping in view the local culture and geography, similarly, Afghanistan has its own history, culture, and geography which foreign forces fighting militants must deal with.

"Besides this, the capability of Afghan forces is another issue so it was not easy to win a war there. Now the US seeks cooperation from Pakistan and we have cooperated a lot. But now the war in Afghanistan has entered into a final phase and the US, allied and Afghan forces will have to fight the war," he said.

Maj Gen Ghafoor further said that the army has taken several measures which are yet to be taken on the Afghan soil. Citing the example of the 2,611-kilometre long porous border, he said that the army has cleared the Pakistani side of the border and eliminated all terrorist hideouts, but the presence of "boots on the ground" on the Afghan side — either of allied or Afghan forces — is essential.

"They will have to eliminate the vacuum and we also demand from them intelligence sharing and to eliminate Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) elements who are stationed there. We have put a fence at our border and also offered and suggested them to fence their border and establish posts because border coordination and cooperation is very necessary [to end terrorism]," he said.

The DG ISPR emphasised two essential points for peace in the region — return of Afghan refugees from Pakistan and curtailing of narco-trade from Afghanistan. He said Pakistan will be in a better position to claim that there is no facilitator of terrorists in the country if Afghan refugees are taken back.

The US wants Pakistan's role in Afghanistan, "but we cannot go and fight for them inside Afghanistan. They will have to complete their tasks in Afghanistan on their own", he said.

Rejecting the claims of facilitation of terrorists, he questioned how it could be possible for a terrorist in Pakistan to commit terrorism miles and miles inside Afghanistan if they have their writ on their soil.

He said Pakistan is ready for cooperation with Afghan forces but blame game will take both countries nowhere.
 
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Not just FO, the DG ISPR response was even more hard hitting...


US threats against Pakistan can 'negatively affect' existing cooperation: DG ISPR
Dawn.comUpdated December 23, 2017


Director General Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor has said that the United States' threats against Pakistan with respect to the latter's alleged support for militant groups can harm the existing coordination and cooperation between the two countries.

Ghafoor when asked to comment on recent threats by US officials, including the warning that US President Donald Trump has "put Pakistan on notice", said that the state responds to such statements through diplomatic and Foreign Office channels. He, however, made it clear that such threats can "negatively affect" the existing cooperation.

He was talking to DawnNews on Friday in its programme Dusra Rukh.

Talking about the issue of US funding to Pakistan, he said that the payments were made under the Coalition Support Fund, which in its essence was "reimbursement" of the amount Pakistan had already spent in the war against terrorism, "under their [the US] coordination".

"If they [the US] demand us to fight for them because they paid us, [then they should know that] Pakistan is not fighting for money," he said. "We are not looking for any money, we are not for sale, a trust-based relationship is the only way forward," he added.

He highlighted that Pakistan has been cooperating with the US significantly over the years in the war against terrorism. He claimed that the US would be unable to defeat Al Qaeda without Pakistan's support.

Pakistan has supported the US before and after 9/11, he said, adding that the relations should be kept intact.

"Allies and partners do not give notices to each other, neither do they indulge in a blame game," he said.

Ghafoor said a dialogue should be held through foreign or military diplomacy to build trust and hoped that relations with the US will continue.

Talking about the reasons behind the US's threatening tone and pressing demands to do more, he said the issue of gains [in the war against terrorism] is linked with local "environment". He elaborated that the Pakistan Army defeated terrorists within the country, keeping in view the local culture and geography, similarly, Afghanistan has its own history, culture, and geography which foreign forces fighting militants must deal with.

"Besides this, the capability of Afghan forces is another issue so it was not easy to win a war there. Now the US seeks cooperation from Pakistan and we have cooperated a lot. But now the war in Afghanistan has entered into a final phase and the US, allied and Afghan forces will have to fight the war," he said.

Maj Gen Ghafoor further said that the army has taken several measures which are yet to be taken on the Afghan soil. Citing the example of the 2,611-kilometre long porous border, he said that the army has cleared the Pakistani side of the border and eliminated all terrorist hideouts, but the presence of "boots on the ground" on the Afghan side — either of allied or Afghan forces — is essential.

"They will have to eliminate the vacuum and we also demand from them intelligence sharing and to eliminate Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) elements who are stationed there. We have put a fence at our border and also offered and suggested them to fence their border and establish posts because border coordination and cooperation is very necessary [to end terrorism]," he said.

The DG ISPR emphasised two essential points for peace in the region — return of Afghan refugees from Pakistan and curtailing of narco-trade from Afghanistan. He said Pakistan will be in a better position to claim that there is no facilitator of terrorists in the country if Afghan refugees are taken back.

The US wants Pakistan's role in Afghanistan, "but we cannot go and fight for them inside Afghanistan. They will have to complete their tasks in Afghanistan on their own", he said.

Rejecting the claims of facilitation of terrorists, he questioned how it could be possible for a terrorist in Pakistan to commit terrorism miles and miles inside Afghanistan if they have their writ on their soil.

He said Pakistan is ready for cooperation with Afghan forces but blame game will take both countries nowhere.

Shabash, looks like state is waking up from hibernation since the snake is no longer sitting in office. this must follow with harsh response to any cross border incursions on all sides.
 
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Very fine and sensible responses. Please dispatch a copy to White House and make sure that it lands on Trump's table.

US should behave and stop threatening Pakistan. Great power is not to be abused.
 
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Pakistan hits back after Pence remarks
By Kamran Yousuf
Published: December 22, 2017
16SHARES
SHARE TWEET EMAIL
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan and the United States engaged in verbal duel on Friday after Vice President Mike Pence claimed that the Trump administration had put Islamabad on notice to act against alleged terrorist safe havens on its soil.

The harshest comment from Pence during his surprise visit to Afghanistan drew equally strong rejoinder from the Foreign Office, which hit back at the US by asking it to put those on notice who were responsible for exponential increase in “drug production, expansion of ungoverned spaces, industrial scale corruption, breakdown of governance and letting Da’ish gain a foothold” in Afghanistan.

Addressing US troops at the Bagram airfield, Pence said: “For too long has Pakistan provided safe haven to the Taliban and many terrorist organisations, but those days are over.”

“President Trump has put Pakistan on notice. As the president said, so I say now: Pakistan has much to gain from partnering with the United States, and Pakistan has much to lose by continuing to harbour criminals and terrorists,” he added.

But within hours of his strong statement, the Foreign Office came up with a stinging reply by suggesting allies “do not put each other on notice”.

“The statement is at variance with the extensive conversations we have had with the US administration,” the Foreign Office statement pointed out.

“On notice should be those factors responsible for the exponential increase in drug production, expansion of ungoverned spaces, industrial scale corruption, breakdown of governance, and letting Da’ish gain a foothold in Afghanistan,” it further stated.

“Also on focus should be: creating peace and reconciliation mechanisms. [And] finally, externalising blame should be put on notice.”
Pakistan has much to lose by harbouring ‘criminals and terrorists’, warns US vice president

The verbal exchange suggested simmering tensions between the two ostensible allies that have been struggling to develop a consensus on how to end the 16-year-old lingering conflict in Afghanistan.

At the heart of problem is Washington’s repeated claims that Islamabad is still harbouring certain militant outfits, including the Haqqani network.

Pakistan, however, is adamant that it has done more than any other country in the fight against terrorism. Also it questions the new approach adopted by the Trump administration that seeks greater role for India in Afghanistan.

Meanwhile, the issue of growing tensions between Pakistan and US also came up for debate at the Senate Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs, which met at the Parliament House on Friday.

Some opposition senators voiced concerns that the US could take a unilateral action as it did in the case of Osama bin Laden against Jamaatud Dawa chief Hafiz Saeed.

PPP Senator Farhatullah Babar said the reminder by the US that Hafiz Saeed was a terrorist who carried head money of $10 million was preceded by the Trump administration new policy containing, for the first time, the element of unilateral action against militants and expressed concern over this juxtaposition.

“Bin Laden carried head money of $25 million and was taken out by a unilateral action by Navy SEALs without prior warning whereas now a specific declaration had been made and the two statements ominously juxtaposed together,” Babar added.

Reminding that Gen (retd) Pervez Musharraf had banned Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) but was now publicly defending Hafiz Saeed, Babar said such statements directly played into the hands of those who accuse Pakistan of harbouring militants.

He said, “For far too long we have been saying that action will be taken if information about terrorists is provided but it has not cut the ice.”

The senator asked if the state was prepared to carry forward investigations into cross-border attacks by militants allegedly based in Pakistan as a step forward.

Senator Mushahid Hussain Sayed spoke on recent threats hurled by US authorities – including the one that Pakistan could lose territory to militant groups, insisting Pakistan should take those threats seriously.

But Foreign Secretary Tehmina Janjua played down such statements as mere threats. She dismissed the charges that there were any safe havens of terrorists on the Pakistani soil.

The secretary claimed that Pakistan had done more than the US demanded. She also made it clear that the US administration needs to address Pakistan’s concerns too.

Without naming India, the foreign secretary pointed out that Pakistan was a victim of state terrorism by an ‘enemy’ country.


Read more: Foreign Office , Latest , Mike Pence
fantabulous, pakistan needs hardliner leader like imran khan who is gonna fvck this cancer US in its a*s,turkey is already there,iran always has been a hardliner,good to see things are coming up together.
This murikkans keep barking "murikka first" slogan then come t o us whining why are not we implementing drama-cracy freedom like they want us to do.
Lets them keep their country.
Lets take back ours.
 
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