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Pakistan hit and struggling badly.

guys i jsut read that the flood has effected 13 million people in pak worse that the tunami hatite earth quake and hurrcane kitrina dame! paksitani per azaab aya hai get use to it people from what is the sole pourpose that paksitan was made we are not doing it ,,,,, so get comfy beaucse this is going to be fluent,, or it might be US doing it with there secreat weapon called haarp
 
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Its time we ask Allah for forgiveness , our acts have angered Allah so much that today we are in this condition .
We should Ask for forgiveness and help the our Pakistani brothers and sisters in this hour of need . and inshaallah we will get out of this very soon .
May Allah forgive our sins .
 
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Are we going to find a RAW connection to these floods as well.. Keep all eyes wide and ears open in near future for consipracy theories such as RAW exacting revenge due to its falling afghan mission.
 
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It probably once in a lifetime flood for Pakistan. Hope the worst will be over soon. We face it every freaking year in BD, but people dont die here neither the impacts are so bad anymore. It took us more than 4 decades to prepare for these.
 
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It probably once in a lifetime flood for Pakistan. Hope the worst will be over soon. We face it every freaking year in BD, but people dont die here neither the impacts are so bad anymore. It took us more than 4 decades to prepare for these.

Sadly it is only going to get worse from here on in...
 
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Will this have a effect on defense procurement as well ? (The Budget)
 
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Nice to see you avoiding Pakistanis by joining a Pakistani Defence Forum and posting about 148 posts in avoidance.

You need to change the defination of avoidance in your dictionary.

He was talking about avoiding in real life. I was talking in same perspective. Regarding posts here, I enjoy being in PDF.
 
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We are a resilient nation...inshallah through thick and thin we will get through this as well.
 
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Yup we do think you are in deep trouble.And we feel really bad that we can't even help you.There will always be gloaters and all kinds of people who always look at things in a certain way.When it is India V/s Pakistan people are brutal but at a humanitarian level let me tell you,most of us genuinely do not want to see this happening to your nation.
They think that we are really in trouble and our economy is history and India is just so awesome.


Man i have been telling you guys not to feed such trolls, typical Indians......i have met a lot more worse of them in the USA than here on defence.pk!
 
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Why is it that when the news is not-so-good, indians crowd into that topic, but when it is good, we see little to none of them?
 
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Well,why did an Indian post it!?
Why should he care?
we are going well and we should be happy with that!
 
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I think in this case our Indian friends have nothing to do with anything

a) It was our own fault , we let 20,000 ppl dictate if Kalabagh should
be built or not built , now 5,000,000 (5 Million) people are
displaced. If fear was for dislocation ? well now we have to deal with 5 million ppl
displaced ...

Just weeks before we foolishly let tones and tones of wheat lay rotten on stations
when you don't appreciate , food - then obviously you get cursed because you don't respect what is given to you as nation , resources and riches that what we call PAKISTAN

b) It was our fault we did not allocate funds for 100 helicopters
for last 20 years

c) It was our own fault we voted Zardari into Power

d) It was also our fault when we choose to steal electricity

I think , awakening starts by first admiting we were wrong ...
and lets build things right

In positive was now we can install NEW INFRASTRUCTURE electrical
better system vs OLD systems this is a golden oppourtunity to help rebuild the countryis grid system:pakistan:

And we also need to get rid of Mr Zardari and Bilawal Co , if they love England so much I think they should stay there permenently
 
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The worst floods in Pakistan's history are devastating its already fragile economy, adding further instability to the troubled nation.


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This is a question for the forum to decide whether the recent rains causing super flood were Artificial.

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How is artificial rain produced?
R.Narasimhan, Chennai
ANSWER 1: The need to develop and improve rain-making techniques in terms of design, operation, monitoring and evaluation by giving them a more scientific character is today's need.
This includes using computers to study cloud formations and help the rain-making operations achieve the goals of the project. The role of weather modification, or rain-making, is an important component in water resource management.
The process involved in artificial rain-making involves three easy-to-understand stages. The first stage is agitation. That is using chemicals to stimulate the air mass upwind of the target area to rise and form rain clouds.
The chemicals used during this stage are calcium chloride calcium carbide, calcium oxide, a compound of salt and urea, or a compound of urea and ammonium nitrate. These compounds are capable of absorbing water vapour from the air mass, thus stimulating the condensation process.
The second stage is called building-up stage. Here the cloud mass is built up using chemicals such as kitchen salt, the T.1 formula, urea, ammonium nitrate, dry ice, and occasionally also calcium chloride to increase nuclei which also increase the density of the clouds. In the third stage of bombardment chemicals such as super-cool agents: silver iodide and dry ice are used to reach the most unbalanced status which builds up large beads of water (Nuclei) and makes them fall down as raindrops.
In planning every stage a high degree of expertise and experience is required, in selecting the types and amounts of chemicals to be used, while taking into consideration weather conditions, topographical conditions, wind direction and velocity as well as the location or delimitation of the area for chemical seeding. Several other ideas are also involved in rain making. Rockets containing rain-making chemicals can be fired into the clouds either from the ground or from aircraft.
A jet of rain-making chemicals is shot from a highly pressurised cannister directly into the cloud base, so as to coerce clouds which normally hang above mountain tops to cluster up and rain on the mountain or their slopes.
Rain-making chemicals are added to super-cooled clouds, i.e., those at altitudes above 18,000 metres, to stimulate the formation of ice crystals in the cloud or cloud cluster.
The Hindu S&T desk
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ANSWER 2: Artificial rain is produced by spraying clouds with substances like Silver Iodide (costly) or cheaper ones like solid carbon dioxide (dry ice) or even finely powdered Sodium Chloride. The process is called seeding.
Often there are clouds, but no rain. This is because of a phenomenon called supercooling. The temperature of the cloud might be close to zero and there might even be crystals of ice in it.
The water vapour in the cloud does not condense to liquid water. The super cooling gets disturbed by spraying the cloud with the chemicals mentioned above, using a small aeroplane for the purpose.
The `super' phenomena (cooling, heating, saturation etc.) are perverse in a sense. Very pure water when heated in a clean vessel, often does not start boiling when expected. Crystals of the photographer's hypo (Sodium thiosulphate) easily dissolve in a little water when heated. But on cooling, crystals do not separate out.
If the vessel is shaken vigorously, or if a small crystal of hypo is freshly added, then crystallization starts immediately.
Making artificial rain is a similar way of intervening in the super cooling phenomenon.

While Dubai was burning in summer heat an artificial relaxation was arranged by the Government of Dubai. Find it on AltafSayani.com

Artificial Rain in Dubai
By Altaf Sayani on July 7th, 2008 in Interesting | No Comments

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Dubai residents got a nice rain which helped to get cooled in this summer.
Here are the few snaps






Can you believe?
It was an artificial rain done by the Meteorological department at the National Center of Meteorology and Seismology (NCMS) to remove the air pollution on Dubai’s atmosphere.
It is called “Cloud Seeding” a latest technology to customize weather. Could seeding, a form of weather modification, is the attempt to change the amount or type of precipitation that falls from clouds, by dispersing substances into the air that serve as cloud condensation or ice nuclei. The usual intent is to increase precipitation, but hail suppression in also widely practiced. Silver iodide and dry ice are the most commonly used substance in the cloud seeding

An aircraft putting dry ice on clouds which makes artificial rain.
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