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Pakistan goes to beg IMF.

I don't know why but I am in favour of IMF deal. It will at least push the government to implement critical policies in the country. The government can keep on crying and imposing taxes on new sectors and widen the horizon of tax structure ultimately.

For example one of the condition I heard of IMF is to send out notices to 100,000 potential tax payers and take their share of due taxes. We have identified about 3 million such people in Pakistan and whether its right or wrong, at least the tax horizon is going to be widened up by such measures.

IMF just ensures their money, you need loan so you go to them, they not only approve loans but tell you the measures to ensure their money back. If you have better alternatives you are free to do that... If not, at least follow the IMF reforms policy. PPP government didn't come up with reforms policy and neither did they follow IMF's policy, hence we have no other option but to bailout the old bailout package.
 
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I don't know why but I am in favour of IMF deal. It will at least push the government to implement critical policies in the country. The government can keep on crying and imposing taxes on new sectors and widen the horizon of tax structure ultimately.

For example one of the condition I heard of IMF is to send out notices to 100,000 potential tax payers and take their share of due taxes. We have identified about 3 million such people in Pakistan and whether its right or wrong, at least the tax horizon is going to be widened up by such measures.

IMF just ensures their money, you need loan so you go to them, they not only approve loans but tell you the measures to ensure their money back. If you have better alternatives you are free to do that... If not, at least follow the IMF reforms policy. PPP government didn't come up with reforms policy and neither did they follow IMF's policy, hence we have no other option but to bailout the old bailout package.
yaar tell me something , gold and copper reservoirs are over $1 trillion in reko diq. so why doesn't the govt just dig out the gold it needs ?????? :azn:
 
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yaar tell me something , gold and copper reservoirs are over $1 trillion in reko diq. so why doesn't the govt just dig out the gold it needs ?????? :azn:

Interesting question -- anyone have answers? maybe something about the investment it takes to get them out, refine them? Are insurgencies and terrorism and govt corruption, investment friendly?
@Zakii says that at least the loan conditions will FORCE Pakistan govt to make structural changes -- so how is it that Pakistan have to be forced to save themselves?? If structural changes are necessary why did it or does it take foreign intervention to enact these changes? What does it say about the substance of Pakistani politics and politicians and bureaucrats?
 
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Interesting question -- anyone have answers? maybe something about the investment it takes to get them out, refine them? Are insurgencies and terrorism and govt corruption, investment friendly?
@Zakii says that at least the loan conditions will FORCE Pakistan govt to make structural changes -- so how is it that Pakistan have to be forced to save themselves?? If structural changes are necessary why did it or does it take foreign intervention to enact these changes? What does it say about the substance of Pakistani politics and politicians and bureaucrats?

What is says is this: that our elite are convinced that the rest of the world owes them billions upon billions of dollars, in perpetuity, for Pakistan is a gift from Allah to all mankind, who are bound to serve them. Any problem with that?
 
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Yes, we have no money, Chapter 953:

IMF agrees Pakistan can seek $6.6 bn, say officials - DAWN.COM

IMF agrees Pakistan can seek $6.6 bn, say officials

REUTERS

ISLAMABAD: The International Monetary Fund has agreed that Pakistan can seek a loan package worth $6.6 billion, two top finance ministry officials said on Monday, a boost for Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif as he seeks to fix the moribund economy.

The Fund had settled on an initial package of $5.3 billion after an IMF delegation held weeks of talks in Pakistan in July. Pakistan had requested $7.2 billion.

“The IMF has raised its offer following further consultations in the US and now agreed to $6.6 billion. The official announcement will come very soon,” said a top finance ministry official, requesting anonymity because he was not yet authorised to speak on the record.

The IMF's executive board will formally approve the package for Pakistan sometime in early September, as long as Pakistan has made some fiscal reforms, the IMF said on its website.

The government has already slashed costly subsidies on electricity and sent out notices to 10,000 delinquent taxpayers last month as part of the conditions set by the IMF.

Pakistan has one of the lowest tax-to-GDP ratios in the world and the IMF wants it to do more to tackle rampant tax evasion by the wealthy elite.

The Saudi Islamic Development Bank Group Ltd has also pledged a $997 million credit line and a $200 million trade facility for Pakistan to buy petroleum products, said Shafqat Jalil, the Finance Ministry's spokesperson.

“We will end up with a shortfall of $600-700 million, which we will bridge through other donors like the ADB (Asian Development Bank),” Jalil said.

The ADB, one of Pakistan's major lenders, estimates that Pakistan needs $6 billion to $9 billion to meet its obligations, including about $5 billion in outstanding debt on an earlier $11 billion IMF loan package that was suspended in 2011.

The new loan will come just in time. The central bank has only about $5 billion left in foreign currency reserves, enough to cover less than five weeks of imports.

Pakistan averted a balance of payments crisis in 2008 by securing the $11 billion loan, but this was suspended two years ago after economic and reform targets were missed.

Chronic gas and electricity shortages, violent crime and a Taliban insurgency have all hampered growth and contributed to a dramatic drop in foreign investment. The $230 billion economy grew 3.6 per cent in the last fiscal year, below a target of 4.3 pe rcent.

The new government has already made some steps towards reforms and has set an ambitious deficit target of 6.3 per cent growth for 2013/14 – although some analysts say that might be hard to meet.

It also plans a new energy policy to tackle power cuts, which frequently last 12 hours a day and have devastated the economy and fuelled unrest.
 
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Looks like you will much more than 6.6 billion if you intend tooo get into a war with India - does IMF or Saudi have provisions for that?
 
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6.6 billion from the IMF , 997million from the Saudi's and 600-700 million from ADB

including about $5 billion in outstanding debt on an earlier $11 billion IMF loan package that was suspended in 2011.

Does this mean Pakistan has an additional Debt of $5 billion which it has to pay back.....
 
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6.6 billion from the IMF , 997million from the Saudi's and 600-700 million from ADB



Does this mean Pakistan has an additional Debt of $5 billion which it has to pay back.....

That 5 billion payback is from the 2008 loan.

Their currency reserves have gone down to 5 billion which will wipe out in a couple of months, they are desperately looking to run on IMF bailouts for next few months. I would give them another 6 months before they tank and hit rock bottom.
 
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That 5 billion payback is from the 2008 loan.

Their currency reserves have gone down to 5 billion which will wipe out in a couple of months, they are desperately looking to run on IMF bailouts for next few months. I would give them another 6 months before they tank and hit rock bottom.

umm..as per the article

The central bank has only about $5 billion left in foreign currency reserves, enough to cover less than five weeks of imports.

this new loan should ease that a bit.....
 
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IMF loan will cost Pakistan 1.2 million jobs, Asad Umar

By Shahram HaqPublished: September 29, 2013

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These are not my personal opinions, I am saying all this as it is written in IMF’s letter of intent of the loan agreement, says Asad Umar.

LAHORE:

The fresh loan agreement between Pakistan and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) will result in the dismissal of 1.2 million people from their jobs, further rupee devaluation, and increasing inflation, unemployment and create a mess overall for the economy of Pakistan, said Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) leader Asad Umar. These are not my personal opinions, I am saying all this as it is written in IMF’s letter of intent of the loan agreement, which reflects the picture of Pakistan’s economy after the release of the fresh loan, said Umar while talking with the Lahore Economic Journalists Association.

The IMF’s technical analysis reveals that the Pakistani rupee is overvalued by 6%, and needs more depreciation for reforms, so in actuality they told the government that rupee devaluation was necessary for the agreement, said Umar. In addition it told the State Bank of Pakistan to purchase some million dollars as they were aware that once SBP started purchasing dollars, the rupee would collapse as the Pakistan foreign exchange market hardly has any depth, he said. But we were told by the government that Pakistan will further receive loan installments from other banks which would add around $10 billion in our reserves at the end of the year. We are unable to understand that if $10 billion will add in our reserves then why must the SBP purchase dollars, he asked.

The IMF document, he further said, stated that the growth rate without reforms will be 3%, while the government in the budget report says that growth rate would be around 3.4%, and after the above mentioned reforms, the IMF documents said that growth rate would further drop to 2.5% which would lead to the unemployment of 1.2 million people, Umar said. Even a fall of one rupee against dollar costs Rs70 billion to the economy, and the rupee has devalued by up to Rs7, he added.

“On one side, unemployment and inflation is increasing and the rupee is devaluing due to the government’s policy while on the other our stock market is making new highs but only billionaires are benefiting from it and minting money. Both things are connected,” said Umar. This is the most crucial moment for the economy of Pakistan and we, as an opposition party have the responsibility to tell the public what actually is happening “, he said. Talking about privatisation, Umar said that privatization may not produce fruitful results every time, sometimes privatisation works and sometimes it fails.

We are not against privatisation of corporations but the government must understand that this is not only an economical issue, it is a political issue too, so they should discuss such things in parliament before to prepare final draft, so the opposition may give some suggestions, he added.
We want to play a positive role for the economic revival of the country
, Umar said.

Published in The Express Tribune, September 29th, 2013.

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Back talk: IMF loan will cost Pakistan 1.2 million jobs, Asad Umar – The Express Tribune
 
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IMF imposes stringent austerity measures on Pakistan

By Sampath Perera
26 September 2013

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) approved a $US6.64billion bailout loan on September 4 to increase Pakistan’s foreign exchange reserves. In exchange, it demanded strict austerity measures that will devastate the living conditions of workers and the poor. The cash-strapped Pakistan Muslim League (PML) government of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has promised to implement all the IMF’s demands. Agreeing to the IMF’s policy demands was a major part of Sharif’s election program to win the backing of global investors and Pakistani big business.

Without the bailout, Pakistan was heading to an imminent default on foreign loans. A total of $3 billion has to be repaid during the financial year started in July, including to the IMF. Pakistan’s dollar reserves stood at $6 billion—only enough for Pakistan to pay for six weeks of imports.
Western officials and media have criticized the austerity measures as “insufficiently stringent,” as the Financial Times wrote, adding that Washington is supporting Pakistan at the IMF mainly in return for Pakistani support for the “AfPak” war.

The Pakistani regime provides critical transit routes to resupply US and NATO occupation forces in neighbouring Afghanistan, and allows continuing US drone strikes inside Pakistan itself. One Western diplomat in Islamabad complained to the Financial Times that “Pakistan’s strategic importance is much too high for the US right now. Nobody wants to see an economic crisis which will deepen other crises” in Pakistan. IMF Deputy Managing Director Nemat Shafik endorsed Pakistan’s austerity measures as “timely,” however, adding that Pakistan’s “vulnerabilities and crisis risks are high.”

The IMF’s mission chief for Pakistan, Jeffrey Franks, said the bailout aimed to “avoid a full-blown crisis and a collapse of the currency.” Pakistan is to receive $544.5 million immediately, relieving fears of an imminent collapse for now, though austerity measures and the worsening global recession will intensify Pakistan’s social crisis. The conditions attached to the three-year loan program included: *Savage budget cuts to lower the deficit from 8.8 percent of gross domestic product (GDP) to 6.3 percent during the fiscal year ending next year June. The government must cut the budget deficit further, to 3.5 percent of GDP, by mid-2016.

*Deficits are to be cut by eliminating most subsidies and raising taxes. One immediate target of subsidy cuts is electricity. The government agreed to a 30 percent increase in electricity prices for domestic users consuming more than 200 units, starting October 1. However, the so-called phasing-out of electricity subsidies is to continue. Gas prices will be “rationalized,” with a new levy aiming to generate revenues of 124 billion rupees. *The Pakistani rupee is to be devalued further. Its value will be brought down to an average of 110 rupees to the US dollar. Currently, 105 rupees are enough to buy $1.

*Speeding the restructuring and privatization of state-run enterprises. Justifying the measure, Finance Minister Ishaq Dar claimed public-sector firms register a loss between $4 and 5 billion annually. He told the Wall Street Journal, “Surely, we can’t keep bleeding like that.” By the end of September, government will select 30 public firms for privatization, beyond the 35 that have already been chosen. *The government will “aggressively” collect taxes to cut the budget deficit. Further increases in sales and other taxes are likely, as the IMF considers spending cuts alone insufficient to meet its budget deficit targets. The IMF has also demanded a significant increase in tax revenues from their current levels of 9.7 percent of GDP to 15 percent by 2018.

The previous Pakistani People’s Party (PPP)-led government obtained $11.3 billion from the IMF in 2008 to avert a balance of payments crisis. As the PPP failed to implement all the IMF’s conditions, the IMF withheld $3.7 billion, agreeing to a new loan only after Sharif publicly declared he was ready to adhere to its policies. He took some measures, such as increasing fuel prices, to convince the IMF of his loyalty. The overall impact of these moves will be a harsh blow to the living and social conditions of workers and the poor. Pakistan Economy Watch, an independent think-tank, wrote: “Foreign loans have weakened the economy, eroded the currency, decreased the buying power of the masses, and have promoted the interests of the elite.”

Economic growth is expected to further decline to around 2.5 to 3 percent. IMF mission chief Franks said, “Growth may actually slip a little bit in the first year of the program, because of the necessary fiscal adjustment and the time lag before the structural reforms yield fruit.” Later, growth figures will go up to 4.5 to 5 percent, the IMF said.

Whatever the truth of these projections, Pakistan’s weak economy has been severely battered by the world capitalist crisis. The IMF stated that “an uncertain global and regional environment” is intensifying Pakistan’s economic problems. The IMF program has been designed to extract as much as possible from working people, to pay for the crisis of big business and international finance capital. The IMF intervention in Pakistan is similar to its program for Greece—which has deepened the recession in that country, reducing working people’s conditions to miserable levels, increasing unemployment, imposing deep wage cuts, and wiping out medical programs.

Inflation will rise due to continuing devaluation of the rupee, and subsidy cuts and taxes will increase the cost of living unbearably, under conditions where the masses are already living in dire poverty. Twenty five percent of Pakistanis live below a poverty line of $1 per day. According to a definition of poverty established by the United Nations Development Programme, which defines poverty as being deprived of a number of key goods or social needs, 49.4 percent of Pakistanis live in poverty. Pakistan is also seeking financing from other sources: $1.5 billion from the World Bank, $1.6 billion from the Asian Development Bank, and $2.4 billion from other countries.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/09/26/****-s26.html
 
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Dependency syndrome

October 11, 2013 MOHAMMAD JAMIL
From nation(***)com(***)pk

The International Monetary Fund in its latest report on global outlook has warned that international growth will take another big hit if the US fails to raise its debt ceiling.

In a separate chapter on Pakistan and Middle East, the IMF admitted that reduction in energy subsidies and depreciation of rupee will likely result in higher inflation in Pakistan. It means that people will have to pay more for electricity and depreciation of rupee, as increase in input costs of the industries coupled with enhanced sales tax by two per cent will be passed on to the consumers. Earlier, IMF conditions for the current loan included that India be given the status of Most Favored Nation; Pakistan should import electricity from India, and exerted indirect pressure to do away with the Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline. This is tantamount to bartering away Pakistan’s sovereignty. Of course, Pakistan has already suffered enormously in the past because of the dependency syndrome.


Pakistan is indeed facing economic challenges vis-a-vis fiscal deficit, trade deficit and current account deficit. Of course, deteriorating law and order situation, corruption, flawed decisions of inept leadership in the past, energy shortfall and prohibitive cost of energy have made many industries nonviable adversely impacting exports and the exchequer. The inevitable result is that Pakistan has missed all economic targets. As regards trade deficit i.e. excess of imports over exports, Pakistan has been trying to overcome this problem for more than half a century. Yet in 2012-13 Pakistan’s imports were $40 billion and exports at $24 billion leading to trade deficit of $16 billion. It is unfortunate that despite more than $13 billion remittances annually from overseas Pakistanis during the last two years, our current account deficit was more than $3 billion. And government had to meet this shortfall and fiscal deficit through loans.
It is common knowledge that for higher growth there has to be substantial increase in investment. But the present rate of savings to GDP is around 12 per cent, which is lower if compared with the developing countries and emerging economies of the world. To give a boost to the economy, investment ratio of savings to GDP should be at least 15 per cent on the basis of ICOR 3:1, and especially when foreign investment is not forthcoming. The problem is that inflation hinders the capacity to save, as it erodes the incomes of the people, especially salaried class and fixed income groups. However, the most serious aspect of our dire economic situation is the growing public debt, which is more than 62 per cent of the GDP. Pakistan’s total debt amounts to Rs.14120 billion ($136 billion); foreign component is $60 billion and domestic debt is Rs.7880 billion ($76 billion).
It was due to the accumulation of debt-mountain that Pakistan had to allocate around more than Rs. 1000 billion for debt-servicing alone. It is unfortunate that despite being a resourceful country, Pakistan has been able to pile up such a huge public debt. In fact, we have been producing less and consuming more; earning less and spending more. It should be borne in mind that the magnitude of the public debt limits the fiscal space to invest in human development, in infrastructure, and also to enhance capacity to build a strong defence. The threats faced by Pakistan have to be understood in the light of fast changing regional and international situation, which add urgency to revive the economy so that adequate resources could be allocated to defend Pakistan’s integrity and sovereignty. It is painful to note that every government in Pakistan continued to take loans by accepting and complying with harsh IMF conditions.
Increase in the rates of utilities produces ‘the multiplier effect’, leading to cost-push inflation making it impossible for the local producers to compete in the world market. In the domestic market, people have to pay more for everything, which erodes the incomes of salaried class and fixed income groups, pushing more and more people below the poverty line. But this crisis is of our own making, as corruption has eaten into the vitals of the nation. The government should therefore restructure the public sector enterprises because on the average these state enterprises are causing of loss of more than Rs. 500 billion per year, in addition to wastage corruption, loot and plunder in other government departments, which is estimated around Rs.1000 billion per year.

If the government feels that it cannot make public sector enterprises profitable, then privatize them through transparent mechanism. Last but not the least; imports should be rationalized so that foreign exchange is not wasted on non-essential imports.


To avert the economic disaster, the government must show zero-tolerance to corruption, tax evasion, wastage and mismanagement in public sector enterprises. It should learn to live within its means and reduce the non-development expenditure by curtailing perks and privileges of cabinet members and parliamentarians. In the past, in a quest to balance the budget or to keep the fiscal deficit within reasonable limits, the axe always fell on development expenditure. If it happens, Pakistan would not be able to build infrastructure for further development and industrialization to generate employment opportunities. The government should focus on the coal-fired generation of electricity to reduce the cost of energy. On their part, the trade and industry should resort to aggressive and innovative marketing policies; look for non-traditional markets; and try to increase the exports of value-added products to overcome the trade deficit.


SUMMARY
1. IMF current loan's terms (loan is about $6B):
1a. MFN status to India
1b. Import Electricity from India (which she creates by the stolen river-water)
1c. Don't import natural gas from Iran​
2. Total debt is $136B ($60b foreign + $76B domestic)
3. Pakistan pays $10B every year for "foreign debt servicing" (interest/sood)
4. Domestic Corruption costs $10B every year.
 
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Pakistani folk,need to take a mental note of this.

Q: "Why do Indians enjoy and celebrate the,bad economic times in Pakistan?"

A: Because they are Pakistan's enemies,who don't miss a chance to spew venom against our nation.

At,heart they despise our nation and have an evil intent to either cause harm to us or enjoy the harm that is inflicted upon us.


Keep track of threads opened up,when Pakistani nation is suffering. You will find them being 'amused' over it.

Level of hate,which doesn't differ between,natural clamities,poverty,social ills and blind terror, only comes from a foe not a friend.


Stop 'hoping' for friendship, those who ridicule the suffering of our people can never be befriended.


Same goes for you guys .

"Jab boye ped babool ke toh aam kaha se hon ??"
 
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