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I say fence Afghanistan.

The blame openly and Karzai degraded Shaukat in a most pathetic way... One side they bark Pakistan spreads terrorism and if Pakistan wants to close the border it is not ok. I say let Afghanistan do what it wants in their country and stfu. Close borders and start controlling like Israel does... And the costs goes to NATO and Karzai...
 
Karazai is most concerned about his own position as stability in the region is going to have effect on Nato/US presence in Afghanistanm hence his own poppet government.

Fencing the border would have major consequences for Afghan economy as somebody already pointed out in another thread that illegal weapons and narcotics smuggling via Pakistan would be curbed.

Karzai and Nato would have no one to blame for their incompetancy to bring stability into the country and their failures. :disagree:
 
Thats what I'm wondering dear. :confused:
India didn't oppose when Israel fenced Palestine and initiated fencing the LoC.
So what's the problem if we do it??
I say fence Afghanistan.

Who says anything is wrong with fencing? Its the mining that shouldn't take place. India did not mine the LoC, it only fenced. Fencing is effective and the situation can be safely reversed in the future if the situation calls for it. Not so with mines.
 
Thats what I'm wondering dear. :confused:
India didn't oppose when Israel fenced Palestine and initiated fencing the LoC.
So what's the problem if we do it??

Which indian had an issue with fencing?
 
I say fence Afghanistan.

The blame openly and Karzai degraded Shaukat in a most pathetic way... One side they bark Pakistan spreads terrorism and if Pakistan wants to close the border it is not ok. I say let Afghanistan do what it wants in their country and stfu. Close borders and start controlling like Israel does... And the costs goes to NATO and Karzai...

Why do you want to charge NATO for it?
 
Fencing the border would have major consequences for Afghan economy as somebody already pointed out in another thread that illegal weapons and narcotics smuggling via Pakistan would be curbed.

ISI also makes money thru these smuggling,they also wuld be affected and I guess thats the reason why pakistan is going for "selective" mining.
 
Thats crap!

Selective fencing and mining is to minimise accidental human casualties.
I've been told that full border in FATA area's will be fenced and mined, other parts with remain under full controll of PA will be selectively mined with maxim border security and surveilliance.
 
Al-Qaeda 'rebuilding' in Pakistan :GUNS:

The head of US spying operations says the leaders of al-Qaeda have found a secure hideout in Pakistan from where they are rebuilding their strength.
National Intelligence Director John Negroponte said al-Qaeda was strengthening itself across the Middle East, North Africa and Europe.

Pakistan rejected the comments, which are the most specific on the issue yet.

This week, the US carried out air strikes in Somalia targeting what it believed to be members of al-Qaeda.

The BBC's James Westhead in Washington says that until now the US has not been so specific about where it believes al-Qaeda's leaders are hiding.

Such a claim will be embarrassing for Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf, who Mr Negroponte described as a key partner in America's war on terror, our correspondent says.

Afghanistan has welcomed the comments - President Hamid Karzai's chief of staff, Jawed Ludin, told the BBC that Afghanistan has long maintained the Islamic militants operate from within Pakistan, and Mr Negroponte's statement was refreshing in its honesty.

'Secure hide-out'

Mr Negroponte told a Senate committee that al-Qaeda was still the militant organisation that "poses the greatest threat to US interests".

"They are cultivating stronger operational connections and relationships that radiate outward from their leaders' secure hide-out in Pakistan to affiliates throughout the Middle East, North Africa and Europe," he said.

"We have captured or killed numerous senior al-Qaeda operatives, but al-Qaeda's core elements are resilient. They continue to plot attacks against our homeland and other targets with the objective of inflicting mass casualties," Mr Negroponte added.

He did not say where in Pakistan the group's leadership was hiding, or refer to its chief, Osama Bin Laden, or his second-in-command, Ayman al-Zawahiri, who are wanted for masterminding the 11 September attacks on Washington and New York.

New job

But the unusually forthright statement by Mr Negroponte appears to be the first time the US has publicly singled out Pakistan, one of its key allies, as the current home of al-Qaeda's high command.

Previously, officials had spoken more vaguely about the group having bases in the mountainous border area between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

"Pakistan is our partner in the war on terror and has captured several al-Qaeda leaders. However, it is also a major source of Islamic extremism," Mr Negroponte said in written testimony submitted to the Senate committee.

A statement from Pakistan's foreign ministry said that Islamabad had done more than any other country to break the back of al-Qaeda and that while its security forces continued to pursue remnants of the group, it was wrong to link these to al-Qaeda elements elsewhere.

Pakistan's Interior Minister Aftab Sherpao also downplayed Mr Negroponte's comments as "too general", saying that Pakistan responded to specific information about al-Qaeda members and claiming that the movement was totally marginalised.

Difficult border

The head of the US Defence Intelligence Agency, Lt-Gen Michael Maples, said Pakistan's border with Afghanistan remained a haven for al-Qaeda and other militants.

The tribal areas on the border are thought to be where al-Qaeda leader Bin Laden and his deputy Zawahiri could be hiding.

Pakistan and Afghanistan share a 1,400-mile (2,250km) mountainous border which is extremely difficult to patrol.

Taleban and al-Qaeda fighters are thought to be operating on both sides.

The two countries regularly exchange charge and counter-charge over who is to blame for the violence.

Recently, Pakistan reiterated its intention to fence and mine sections of the troubled border.

Kabul particularly opposes the idea of mining stretches of the frontier, saying it will endanger civilian lives.

An Islamist insurgency spearheaded by the resurgent Taleban militia is at its strongest in the southern Afghan provinces bordering Pakistan.

Mr Negroponte took charge of the 16 US intelligence agencies in April 2005, but is shortly due to move to the state department where he will become Condoleezza Rice's deputy.

President George W Bush last week named retired Navy Vice Admiral Michael McConnell as the new US national intelligence director.

Mr Negroponte made the claims about Pakistan in his annual assessment of worldwide threats against the US and its interests.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6254375.stm
 
Bull said:
ISI also makes money thru these smuggling,they also wuld be affected and I guess thats the reason why pakistan is going for "selective" mining..

Thats crap!

Ms Wendy Chamberlain( US Assistant Secretary of State) was asked by Mr Dana Rohrabacher Republican Congressman from California: "How will you characterise the ISI's involvement in the opium smuggling business on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border over the past six years?" "Substantial," replied Ms Wendy Chamberlain.

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2003/03/29/stories/2003032900070800.htm

Mr. MANTON. Mr. Speaker, I would like to call to the attention of my colleagues an article which appeared in the September 12 edition of the Washington Post. In this article, former Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif is quoted as saying that former Army Chief of Staff, Gen. Mirza Aslam Beg, and Gen. Asad Durrani, the former head of Pakistani Inter Services Intelligence Bureau [ISI] informed him that the army and ISI wanted to conduct covert activities in other countries and wanted to use the proceeds from large scale drug transactions to finance these activities. While Mr. Sharif says he assumed the plan was never carried out, there is growing evidence to the contrary.

http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1993_cr/h930923-terror-pak.htm

The Pakistani ISI starts a special cell of agents who use profits from heroin production for covert actions “at the insistence of the CIA.” But for these heroin dollars, Pakistan’s legitimate economy must have collapsed many years ago.” [Financial Times 8/10/2001]

http://www.hinduonnet.com/businessline/2001/08/10/stories/041055ju.htm

The United Nations Drug Control Program determines that the ISI makes around $2.5 billion annually from the sale of illegal drugs.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/1999/99nov28/head6.htm#1
 
Al-Qaeda 'rebuilding' in Pakistan :GUNS:

The head of US spying operations says the leaders of al-Qaeda have found a secure hideout in Pakistan from where they are rebuilding their strength.
National Intelligence Director John Negroponte said al-Qaeda was strengthening itself across the Middle East, North Africa and Europe.

Pakistan rejected the comments, which are the most specific on the issue yet.

This week, the US carried out air strikes in Somalia targeting what it believed to be members of al-Qaeda.

The BBC's James Westhead in Washington says that until now the US has not been so specific about where it believes al-Qaeda's leaders are hiding.

Such a claim will be embarrassing for Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf, who Mr Negroponte described as a key partner in America's war on terror, our correspondent says.

Afghanistan has welcomed the comments - President Hamid Karzai's chief of staff, Jawed Ludin, told the BBC that Afghanistan has long maintained the Islamic militants operate from within Pakistan, and Mr Negroponte's statement was refreshing in its honesty.

'Secure hide-out'

Mr Negroponte told a Senate committee that al-Qaeda was still the militant organisation that "poses the greatest threat to US interests".

"They are cultivating stronger operational connections and relationships that radiate outward from their leaders' secure hide-out in Pakistan to affiliates throughout the Middle East, North Africa and Europe," he said.

"We have captured or killed numerous senior al-Qaeda operatives, but al-Qaeda's core elements are resilient. They continue to plot attacks against our homeland and other targets with the objective of inflicting mass casualties," Mr Negroponte added.

He did not say where in Pakistan the group's leadership was hiding, or refer to its chief, Osama Bin Laden, or his second-in-command, Ayman al-Zawahiri, who are wanted for masterminding the 11 September attacks on Washington and New York.

New job

But the unusually forthright statement by Mr Negroponte appears to be the first time the US has publicly singled out Pakistan, one of its key allies, as the current home of al-Qaeda's high command.

Previously, officials had spoken more vaguely about the group having bases in the mountainous border area between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

"Pakistan is our partner in the war on terror and has captured several al-Qaeda leaders. However, it is also a major source of Islamic extremism," Mr Negroponte said in written testimony submitted to the Senate committee.

A statement from Pakistan's foreign ministry said that Islamabad had done more than any other country to break the back of al-Qaeda and that while its security forces continued to pursue remnants of the group, it was wrong to link these to al-Qaeda elements elsewhere.

Pakistan's Interior Minister Aftab Sherpao also downplayed Mr Negroponte's comments as "too general", saying that Pakistan responded to specific information about al-Qaeda members and claiming that the movement was totally marginalised.

Difficult border

The head of the US Defence Intelligence Agency, Lt-Gen Michael Maples, said Pakistan's border with Afghanistan remained a haven for al-Qaeda and other militants.

The tribal areas on the border are thought to be where al-Qaeda leader Bin Laden and his deputy Zawahiri could be hiding.

Pakistan and Afghanistan share a 1,400-mile (2,250km) mountainous border which is extremely difficult to patrol.

Taleban and al-Qaeda fighters are thought to be operating on both sides.

The two countries regularly exchange charge and counter-charge over who is to blame for the violence.

Recently, Pakistan reiterated its intention to fence and mine sections of the troubled border.

Kabul particularly opposes the idea of mining stretches of the frontier, saying it will endanger civilian lives.

An Islamist insurgency spearheaded by the resurgent Taleban militia is at its strongest in the southern Afghan provinces bordering Pakistan.

Mr Negroponte took charge of the 16 US intelligence agencies in April 2005, but is shortly due to move to the state department where he will become Condoleezza Rice's deputy.

President George W Bush last week named retired Navy Vice Admiral Michael McConnell as the new US national intelligence director.

Mr Negroponte made the claims about Pakistan in his annual assessment of worldwide threats against the US and its interests.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6254375.stm

Pakistan rejects US spy chief remarks, urges focus on cooperation


ISLAMABAD (updated on: January 12, 2007, 18:38 PST): The government said on Friday the United States had not given it any information about the presence of al Qaeda leaders, following remarks from US intelligence chief John Negroponte that they were holed up in Pakistan.

"We have no such information nor has any such thing been communicated to us by any US authority," Military spokesman Major-General Shaukat Sultan told Reuters.

Washington's ally has always contended that Osama bin Laden and his deputy Ayman al Zawahri could be either side of the rugged, porous border with Afghanistan.

But in an unusually direct statement, Negroponte on Thursday named Pakistan as the centre of an al Qaeda web that radiated out to the Middle East, North Africa and Europe.

In a testimony to a Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, Negroponte wrote, without naming bin Laden or Zawahri, that al Qaeda leaders are holed up in a secure hide-out in Pakistan.

He said they were rebuilding a network that has been decimated by the capture or killing of hundreds of al Qaeda members since the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks on the United States.

Foreign Ministry issued a response to Negroponte's comments, saying he should have mentioned that successes against al Qaeda were made possible by Pakistan and the focus should "remain on co-operation instead of questionable criticism".

It also contradicted Negroponte's assertion that al Qaeda operatives elsewhere were being controlled from Pakistan.

"In breaking the back of al Qaeda, Pakistan has done more than any other country in the world," spokeswoman Tasnim Aslam said.

Many security analysts suspect that bin Laden is likely to be hiding in Pakistan's tribal regions or neighbouring districts of North West Frontier Province.

There has also been speculation that he may have died, though intelligence agencies say they have not picked up any supporting evidence.

A half-dozen audio tapes of bin Laden were circulated in the first half of 2006, but the al Qaeda leader last appeared in video tape in late 2004. Subsequent tapes released were identified as old footage.

Zawahri, meantime, has had several tapes released. On Jan. 5, an audio-tape was posted on the Web by al Qaeda's media arm al-Sahab, exhorting Somalian Islamists to attack Ethiopia. The authenticity of the tape could not be verified, but correspondents familiar with Zawahri's voice said it was his.

HIT AND MISS

In January last year CIA-operated drone aircraft carried out a missile strike on Bajaur tribal region based on information that Zawahri might be there.

The strike on Damadola village did not kill Zawahri, though it possibly eliminated a handful of al Qaeda militants. It killed 18 villagers.

Last October, around 80 men, some of them young boys, were killed in a missile attack on a madrassa in Bajaur, though this time the Pakistan military said it carried out the operation.

In his testimony, Negroponte acknowledged Pakistan's efforts in the fight against terrorism but said it was also a "major source of extremism".

He also noted President Pervez Musharraf was aware of the risk of sparking a revolt among ethnic Pashtuns living in the tribal belt straddling the border, as well as the political risks of a backlash from political parties, especially as national elections are due in Pakistan this year.

http//brecorder.com
 
ISI also makes money thru these smuggling,they also wuld be affected and I guess thats the reason why pakistan is going for "selective" mining.

Bull dont mind me saying that but you seem to have a habit of pulling stuff out of nowhere....ISI involved in smuggling...hmm? I am sure that is something very credible.

For some reason you have a major bone to pick with Pakistan (or maybe you feel it to be an obligation because you are Indian?). You tend to constantly pick and put forward unsubstantiated claims. Think about what you post before you click the submit button. ISI does not put up the fence. The GoP decides to do it. Lets get a little real here with regards to falsly tying up ISI with smuggling of TVs and refrigerators here please.
 
Bull dont mind me saying that but you seem to have a habit of pulling stuff out of nowhere....ISI involved in smuggling...hmm? I am sure that is something very credible.

For some reason you have a major bone to pick with Pakistan (or maybe you feel it to be an obligation because you are Indian?). You tend to constantly pick and put forward unsubstantiated claims. Think about what you post before you click the submit button. ISI does not put up the fence. The GoP decides to do it. Lets get a little real here with regards to falsly tying up ISI with smuggling of TVs and refrigerators here please.

Say which was unsbstantiated claims?
I will give proof for each and everything.
 
Bull dont mind me saying that but you seem to have a habit of pulling stuff out of nowhere....ISI involved in smuggling...hmm? I am sure that is something very credible.

For some reason you have a major bone to pick with Pakistan (or maybe you feel it to be an obligation because you are Indian?). You tend to constantly pick and put forward unsubstantiated claims. Think about what you post before you click the submit button. ISI does not put up the fence. The GoP decides to do it. Lets get a little real here with regards to falsly tying up ISI with smuggling of TVs and refrigerators here please.

hiya blain2

long time, hope u had a great new year,

I beg to differ with you on this context

http://acsa2000.net/herointalibanpakistan/index.htm

HEROIN, TALIBAN & PAKISTAN

by B.Raman

(To be read in continuation of the earlier article dated 30-4-00 and titled "Heroinisation of The Pakistani Economy" at www.saag.org/notes/note87.html )

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Pakistan's illegal heroin economy has kept its legitimate State economy sustained since 1990 and prevented its collapse. It has also enabled it to maintain a high level of arms purchases from abroad and to finance its proxy war against India through the jehadi organisations.

While no estimate of the money spent by it on its proxy war is available, it has been estimated by Pakistani analysts ("Friday Times" March 9 to 15,2001) that about 80 per cent of its total external debt of US $ 38 billion, that is, about US $ 30.4 billion, was incurred on arms purchases since 1990. This includes its purchases of aircraft and missiles from China, missiles from North Korea, for which payment was made partly in cash and partly in imported US and Australian wheat, Agosta class submarines from France, reconditioned Mirage aircraft from France, Lebanon and Australia and other items from countries such as Ukraine. The clandestine procurement of nuclear technology and material from Western countries and the Chinese-aided nuclear power station at Chashma were also financed through external borrowing.

The use of the heroin dollars for such purposes started after the withdrawal of the Soviet troops from Afghanistan in 1988. In the 1980s, at the instance of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) of the US, the Internal Political Division of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), headed by Brig (retd). Imtiaz, who worked directly under Lt.Gen.Hamid Gul, the DG of the ISI during the later years of Zia-ul-Haq and during the first few months of Mrs.Benazir Bhutto's first tenure as the Prime Minister (1988-90), started a special cell for the use of heroin for covert actions.

This cell promoted the cultivation of opium and the extraction of heroin in Pakistani territory as well as in the Afghan territory under Mujahideen control for being smuggled into the Soviet controlled areas in order to make the Soviet troops heroin addicts. After the withdrawal of the Soviet troops, the ISI's heroin cell started using its network of refineries and smugglers for smuggling heroin to the Western countries and using the money as a supplement to its legitimate economy. But for these heroin dollars, Pakistan's legitimate economy must have collapsed many years ago.

Not only the legitimate State economy, but also many senior officers of the Army and the ISI benefited from the heroin dollars. Brig.Imtiaz was sacked by Mrs.Benazir on coming to power in 1988 for interfering in internal politics, but was reinstated by Mr.Nawaz Sharif on coming to power in 1990 and subsequently made Director of the Intelligence Bureau (IB).

In fact, in Pakistan, Mr.Sharif is seen as the creation of Brig. Imtiaz. It was he who, as head of the Internal Political Division of the ISI in the 1980s, had persuaded Mr.Sharif, then a small businessman in Dubai, to return to Pakistan and take over the leadership of the Pakistan Muslim League (PML) in order to counter Mrs.Benazir's Pakistan People's Party (PPP).

Mrs.Benazir again had him sacked on her return to power in 1993 and arrested and prosecuted him on charges of indulging in illegal activities, but he was acquitted.

After capturing power on October 12,1999, Gen.Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan's self-reinstated Chief of the Army Staff (COAS), self-styled Chief Executive and self-promoted President, had Brig.Imtiaz, because of his proximity to Mr.Sharif, rearrested and prosecuted for having assets disproportionate to his known sources of income as an officer of the ISI and the IB.

He was convicted by a court on July 31,2001, and jailed for eight years. According to evidence produced in the court by the National Accountability Bureau (NAB), Brig.Imtiaz had foreign exchange bearer certificates worth US $ 20.08 million, a Pakistani rupee account in the Union Bank with a balance of Rs.2.13 billion, a US $ account in the Deutsch Bank with a balance of US $ 19.1 million, five residential houses, five commercial units and three shops. This huge wealth was allegedly accumulated by him through heroin smuggling.

It is believed that there are at least 30 such Army and ISI officers, serving and retired, who have accumulated similar wealth through heroin smuggling.

The present estimate of Pakistan's annual earnings through heroin dollars, including by this writer, is about US $ 1.5 billion. It is difficult to come across precise, direct evidence for such estimates.

The estimate till now has been based on indirect evidence such as the following:

* The Government of Pakistan releases its foreign exchange reserves position in two parts. The first part gives the figures of reserves maintained by the State Bank of Pakistan (SBP). These are the amounts earned through foreign trade, investment flows, foreign aid and loans and remittances by overseas Pakistanis. The second part gives the figures of reserves available with other banks. These are the deposits of resident Pakistanis, who are allowed to maintain dollar accounts with no questions asked about the origin of the money and about its liability for income tax. Under Pakistan Government orders, these amounts cannot be used by the Government for its purposes though Mr. Sharif froze them temporarily after the Chagai nuclear tests in 1998 in order to be able to use them if the economic sanctions hit the State economy hard.
* US dollars kept by private citizens in their possession without being deposited in the banks. The SBP periodically purchases these dollars to meet debt servicing and other governmental needs.

In any analysis, it would be reasonable to presume that the dollars kept in the bank accounts of resident Pakistanis and the dollars in private circulation must have been largely, if not totally, derived from the heroin trade. There cannot be any other explanation for it because Pakistan has been having a trade deficit for many years in succession, there has been a 73 per cent decline in foreign direct investments and a negative flow of portfolio investments and there was no international assistance forthcoming from October,1999, till November,2000, when the IMF resumed its stand-by credit facilities to Pakistan.

Quoting SBP sources, the "Business Recorder" of Pakistan (August 1,2001) gave the following figures, which provide a fairly accurate estimate of the US dollars available in private hands during the financial year 2000-01:

* The SBP had $ 1.7 billion, which was the official foreign exchange reserve of the State. In addition, resident Pakistanis had deposits in various commercial banks amounting to US $ 1.5 billion.
* During the financial years 1999-2000 and 2000-01, despite the suspension of credit facilities by the IMF and other multilateral institutions after the military coup, the Government fulfilled debt servicing (debt and interest payments) obligations amounting to US $ 7.8 billion. Out of this, US $ 4 billion came from the Govt. coffers and the balance of US $ 3.8 billion was purchased from resident Pakistanis.

In other words, the total amount of US $ in private circulation since the military regime came to power was almost equal to that in the Govt. coffers, if not more.

The first direct piece of evidence about the total value of the heroin money being pumped into the Pakistani economy every year has come from an unexpected source---the Taliban. Before 1998, opium was being grown in the North-West Frontier Province (NWFP) of Pakistan and in the Nangarhar province in Taliban-controlled Afghan territory. All the Pakistani-owned refineries for heroin extraction were located in Taliban-controlled territory.

In 1998-2000, the Pakistani authorities stopped the cultivation of opium in the NWFP. In 2000-01, the Taliban too, under international pressure, ostensibly banned opium cultivation in its territory, but did not dismantle the Pakistani-owned heroin refineries. It demanded that international narcotics control agencies should reimburse to it the money lost by its farmers due to this ban so that they can shift to other crops.

US and other foreign narcotics control officials, who visited Nangarhar, confirmed that opium cultivation has been stopped. However, doubts remain on the following points:

* Has the Taliban secretly shifted the opium cultivation from the traditional areas in Nangarhar to which international experts had access to other remote areas to which they did not have?
* Due to a bumper crop and record heroin production in previous years, the prices of heroin in the international heroin market had been coming down. Pakistani smugglers, supported by the ISI, had enough heroin stocks to meet at least two years' demand of the market. Was the Taliban merely suspending cultivation during this period to stabilise the prices?

Despite these misgivings, the US announced a contribution of US 1.5 million to international narcotics control programmes for disbursement to the Afghan farmers who have stopped poppy cultivation. The Taliban has been describing this as worse than peanuts and demanding much more.

This was one of the subjects which figured during the discussions of Mrs.Christina Rocca, US Assistant Secretary of State, with Mullah Abdus Salam Zaeef , the Taliban Ambassador in Islamabad, and his No. 2, Mr. Sohail Shaheen, at Islamabad on August 2. According to the "Frontier Post" of Peshawar (August 3,2001), while briefing pressmen after the discussions, a spokesman of the Taliban said : "We have told the US team that Afghanistan was earning 12 billion dollars a year from the poppy cultivation and we have eliminated the poppy from the country."

How much of this amount was going to the Taliban and how much to the Pakistanis and the ISI, who owned all the refineries? No direct evidence is available, but one can estimate roughly that out of this at least US $ 11 billion per annum was going to Pakistan from the following circumstantial evidence:

* There are no reports of large amounts in US dollars circulating in private hands in Taliban-controlled Afghanistan , whereas Pakistan is awash with them.
* There are no large-scale development and other activities in Afghanistan which would indicate the availability of large funds in cash. There is so much poverty due to lack of development that thousands of Afghans have been migrating to Pakistan.

* Since its capture of Kabul in September,1996, the Taliban had not been publishing its budget figures. Some details are now available for the first time. According to these figures, during the financial year 2001-02, the Taliban would have an estimated expenditure of US $ 82.53 million, of which US $ 43.53 million is shown as the Discretionary Fund of Mulla Mohammad Omer, the Amir. The balance is to be spent by various departments. Quoting a study of the New York University Centre, the "Dawn" of Karachi (June 4,2001) estimates that the Taliban gets US $ 45 million per annum from the heroin trade, an amount nearly equal to the Amir's Discretionary Fund.

If this figure of what the Taliban gets is taken as reasonable, more than US $ 11 billion per annum from the heroin trade goes to Pakistan, that is, more than Pakistani Rs. 715 billion at one US $ equal to 65 Pak rupees. During 2000-01, the Pakistani State had a total revenue of Rs.570.6 billion, of which Rs.471.6 billion came from taxes. That is, Pakistan's heroin economy was 30 per cent larger than its legitimate State economy.

Is it any wonder that its economy does not collapse despite the worst predictions and that it is able to defy international pressure on its sponsorship of terrorism against India and on its support to the Taliban and Osama bin Laden?

Adu
 
Thanks Adu.

Blain i have given some links in the prev posts regarding ISI's involvement in drug trafficking.
 
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