Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[nomi007]

Looks like we do.

According to US Selected Acquisition Report (SAR), some 500 JDAM kits were sold to Pakistan on 9/30/2006. Please see page 25 of the report here: http://www.dod.mil/pubs/foi/logisti...Dec_2012/Air_Force/JDAM_December_2012_SAR.pdf

thanks for clarification
its means wat lag gehe dusman ki

 

[Windjammer]

@Oscar @Windjammer is this picture which i share is photoshop edit or real?
are we are using jdam kindly clear it?

Yup, JDAMs and a whole lot others.

 

[Viny]

F16 airframe has lifetime of around 8000hrs. If you go through SLEP program it would increase life upto 12000hrs thats 4000 hrs more and if you avg 300hrs per year then also it gives atleast 12-15years of additional life in addition to what remains.
This could act as backbone, but would need to upgrade to next generation also to be able to compete with neighbours.

 

[Informant]

Yup, JDAMs and a whole lot others.

This pic is made for nightmares

 

[Pinnacle]

guys what is the basic difference in the roles of JDAM and a laser guided bomb? i mean both are guided munitions ! so what advantage these two offer over eachother?

 

[Windjammer]

guys what is the basic difference in the roles of JDAM and a laser guided bomb? i mean both are guided munitions ! so what advantage these two offer over eachother?

JDAM-equipped bombs are guided by an integrated inertial guidance system coupled to a Global Positioning System (GPS) , while LGBs ride a beam illuminated by mother ship or another platform.....JDAM is much more sophisticated as LGB munition can be effected by cloudy sky or thick smoke over the target area.

 

[shanis]

No money ....USA not willing....So its a no go on AESA from USA at least.

Yes you are right ... if we will pay to US for upgrade our F-16 with AESA system ... US will not do ...

F16 airframe has lifetime of around 8000hrs. If you go through SLEP program it would increase life upto 12000hrs thats 4000 hrs more and if you avg 300hrs per year then also it gives atleast 12-15years of additional life in addition to what remains.
This could act as backbone, but would need to upgrade to next generation also to be able to compete with neighbours.

yes F-16 is a best aircraft ever in the world ... but now we have to go with new aircraft ... yes with time we can try to upgrade F-16 with AESA, but right now we have to hard work with JF-17 with upgrade all next generation parts, have to buy 4.5 generation aircraft like j-10 b with New upgrade jF-17 block 1 2 3 then in 3rd option have to upgrade F-16 with AESA ... but US will not do that ...

 

[fatman17]

F16 airframe has lifetime of around 8000hrs. If you go through SLEP program it would increase life upto 12000hrs thats 4000 hrs more and if you avg 300hrs per year then also it gives atleast 12-15years of additional life in addition to what remains.
This could act as backbone, but would need to upgrade to next generation also to be able to compete with neighbours.

PAF avg. is 200-220 hrs/year.

Yes good suggestion but we are getting more F16 C/D level soon

true congressional approvals are available for 18 F-16C/Ds.

 

[syedali73]

JDAM-equipped bombs are guided by an integrated inertial guidance system coupled to a Global Positioning System (GPS) , while LGBs ride a beam illuminated by mother ship or another platform.....JDAM is much more sophisticated as LGB munition can be effected by cloudy sky or thick smoke over the target area.

We should not be surprised if PAF is employing this state-of-the-art JDAM munition for precision attacks on the hideouts of TTP rats. As you have mentioned, the use of inertial guidance coupled with GPS renders these munitions independent of beam riding and usable regardless the weather conditions. Neither the cover of the night nor the thick clouds would protect these rats from the wrath of the PAF.

 

[Viny]

yes F-16 is a best aircraft ever in the world .

Over exaggeration, none the less its a very fine aircraft and have been over its age in 1998-2000. Some life dose are given as American partners are still using it and will be using it near future and which brings more money to there establishment without much of additional cost.

.. but now we have to go with new aircraft

Agree and the open timespan is only till India does doll drums with is purchase process.

.
... yes with time we can try to upgrade F-16 with AESA,

Seriously doubt AESA happening anytime soon.

.
but right now we have to hard work with JF-17 with upgrade all next generation parts, have to buy 4.5 generation aircraft like j-10 b with New upgrade jF-17 block 1 2 3 then in 3rd option have to upgrade F-16 with AESA ... but US will not do that ...

Best of luck for same.

 

[Donatello]

PAF avg. is 200-220 hrs/year.



true congressional approvals are available for 18 F-16C/Ds.

I think we should cash in on that approval while it is there.

 

[Donatello]

JDAM-equipped bombs are guided by an integrated inertial guidance system coupled to a Global Positioning System (GPS) , while LGBs ride a beam illuminated by mother ship or another platform.....JDAM is much more sophisticated as LGB munition can be effected by cloudy sky or thick smoke over the target area.

Two years ago there was a report that PAF has used up quite a few LGBs and JDAMs in strikes against terrorists. Are there any plans for replenishment, or an in house solution is available, since the similar kits are being made in house for the JF-17s, no?

 

[SQ8]

Two years ago there was a report that PAF has used up quite a few LGBs and JDAMs in strikes against terrorists. Are there any plans for replenishment, or an in house solution is available, since the similar kits are being made in house for the JF-17s, no?

The PAF sticks to LGB's generally. JDAMs are used only in bad weather support. As such, the GBU-10 and 12 kits keep coming in.

 

[nomi007]

 

[Windjammer]

@Oscar ....is this in same category as JDAM, except it's being produced by GIDS in Pakistan. ??

Pakistani GIDS TAKBIR Series Satellite Aided Inertially Guided Glide Bomb Family for precision attack against ground attack role.