Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[Bratva]

Amazing USAF F-16 Videos . Stunning Dog fighting maneuvers , Live weapon release and gun firing , Night time flying and NVG, Low level flyings plus pilots and crew having fun

Fighter Pilot - The Memoirs of a Legendary F-16 B-Course Class

13-ABK Gunfighters F-16 B-Course Graduation

13-EBG F-16 B Course Graduation Video

P.S. Youtube videos.

@gambit @Oscar @Munir @Windjammer @Fulcrum15

 

[Donatello]

Amazing USAF F-16 Videos . Stunning Dog fighting maneuvers , Live weapon release and gun firing , Night time flying and NVG, Low level flyings plus pilots and crew having fun

Fighter Pilot - The Memoirs of a Legendary F-16 B-Course Class

13-ABK Gunfighters F-16 B-Course Graduation

13-EBG F-16 B Course Graduation Video

P.S. Youtube videos.

@gambit @Oscar @Munir @Windjammer @Fulcrum15

The Red Flag ones were pretty impressive too. I wonder if PAF would ever release such footage.

 

[Windjammer]

The Red Flag ones were pretty impressive too. I wonder if PAF would ever release such footage.

The HUD footage from Pak/Saudi exercise did end up on e-bay and was snapped by a very keen collector in US for a four figure sum.

 

[Donatello]

The HUD footage from Pak/Saudi exercise did end up on e-bay and was snapped by a very keen collector in US for a four figure sum.

You mean the one where F-16s were up against the RSAF f-15s and Typhoons?

Lol, why was it on ebay?

 

[Windjammer]

You mean the one where F-16s were up against the RSAF f-15s and Typhoons?

Lol, why was it on ebay?

Yup that's the one, a PAF collector put it up, i found out a bit late but i believe he has some other stuff like the Afghan kills in the 80s.

 

[nomi007]

block 52 in 52c temperature

 

[Donatello]

Yup that's the one, a PAF collector put it up, i found out a bit late but i believe he has some other stuff like the Afghan kills in the 80s.

Ahh, any way one could get a hold of it?

 

[nomi007]

 

[Munir]

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[krash]

The main factor was Rafael and typhoon came top in six months of evaluation from hundreds of factors.

You do know that Rafael was rejected and kicked out of the competition? And then reinstated as a competitor after some French "persuasion"?

a senior defence ministry official made it clear on Thursday that Rafael has been rejected at the technical evaluation stage for failing to meet minimum performance requirements that had been detailed in the tender document.

French Rafale out of race for IAF fighters - Indian Express

Ouch.....


On topic:

Anyone know if the Jordanian birds have started stretching their wings over their new home?

 

[HAIDER]

@Windjammer What is the cost of per sortie , F16 and JF17. ( cover maintenance,crew ,ammo,gas etc etc)

 

[MastanKhan]

You do know that Rafael was rejected and kicked out of the competition? And then reinstated as a competitor after some French "persuasion"?


French Rafale out of race for IAF fighters - Indian Express

Ouch.....


On topic:

Anyone know if the Jordanian birds have started stretching their wings over their new home?

Hi,

Kicking out rafale initially, was a strategic ploy by india---they took the air out of the sails of france---. The french were being setup for what the indians would be demanding later---. To push the deal forward---one of the participants supposedly suggested of cancelling the radar & other weapons systems for JF 17 for the deal on rafale to re-start.

after pak decided to go against the rafale---india was pre determined to go for that aircraft right from gitgo. That was the most superior aircraft that pak could have gotten with least restrictions.

Secondly---this aircraft had been in service for awhile---so basically most of the bugs had been taken out & all systems working above par.

Paf will pay heavily for their error.

 

[Munir]

Hi,

Kicking out rafale initially, was a strategic ploy by india---they took the air out of the sails of france---. The french were being setup for what the indians would be demanding later---. To push the deal forward---one of the participants supposedly suggested of cancelling the radar & other weapons systems for JF 17 for the deal on rafale to re-start.

after pak decided to go against the rafale---india was pre determined to go for that aircraft right from gitgo. That was the most superior aircraft that pak could have gotten with least restrictions.

Secondly---this aircraft had been in service for awhile---so basically most of the bugs had been taken out & all systems working above par.

Paf will pay heavily for their error.

I agree that Rafale was best option back then but it does costs them not that much to get very near that plane... Can't say more but we do have tested everything on the Rafale. Every single part. There is not much we do not know. And I can say it does cost a lot less... The French are money suckers second to none. We paid for that for the old Mirages we have...

 

[Windjammer]

@Windjammer What is the cost of per sortie , F16 and JF17. ( cover maintenance,crew ,ammo,gas etc etc)

@Munir, is the best person to answer that.

 

[araz]

@Windjammer What is the cost of per sortie , F16 and JF17. ( cover maintenance,crew ,ammo,gas etc etc)

I think there is a post on the forum about this. The costs are if I remember correctly $6000 for the 16s and 2000 for JFT.