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Did we receive more 18 F-16 Block 52+ on 13-02-2012?
I heard in news that we are getting 2nd Hand 14 F-16?
 
Shehbaz Airbase Under Pak control fully
the 14 to be received are free of cost

(Xinhua)
08:59, February 14, 2012

ISLAMABAD, Feb. 13 (Xinhua) -- Pakistan Air Chief Air Marshal Rao Qamar Sulema said on Monday that the country is manufacturing its own spy aircraft and will soon be able to prepare pilotless plane equipped with missile technology, local media reported.

Talking to reporters at the Shehbaz Airbase in southern Sindh province, he said Pakistan is making unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV drones) at the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex in the town of Kamra near Islamabad, Geo TV reported.

Asked if the F-16 aircraft that Pakistan recently received from the U.S. can down American drones, Suleman said that the Pakistan Air Force does not want any such situation.

The media people were taken to the Shehbaz Airbase to formally announce that the airbase is now under the complete control of the Pakistan Air Force.

The U.S., which used the airbase for drone attacks in Afghanistan and possibly in Pakistan, was told to vacate the base by Pakistan in the aftermath of the November 26 NATO strike on Pakistani posts, which had killed 24 soldiers.

The Air Chief said that 14 used F-16s were provided to Pakistan by the U.S. free of cost while 18 others have been bought.

The Army Chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani said on the occasion that the parliament reserves the right to decide on the resumption of NATO supplies.

He said that the final decision on whether NATO supplies will be allowed to pass through Pakistan for forces based in Afghanistan will be made by the Parliamentary Committee on National Security.

The Army Chief said that Pakistan and the U.S. are cooperating on defence operations and Pakistani officials are taken into confidence whenever bordering areas are to be attacked.

Talking about the Coalition Support Fund, which was set up by the U.S. Congress after the September 11, 2001, attacks to reimburse allies for costs in supporting the U.S.-led war on militancy, General Kayani said that Pakistan was yet to receive 1. 5 billion U.S. dollars from the U.S.

Pakistan making own spy aircraft: Air Chief - People's Daily Online
 
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Shehbaz Airbase Under Pak control fully
the 14 to be received are free of cost

(Xinhua)
08:59, February 14, 2012

ISLAMABAD, Feb. 13 (Xinhua) -- Pakistan Air Chief Air Marshal Rao Qamar Sulema said on Monday that the country is manufacturing its own spy aircraft and will soon be able to prepare pilotless plane equipped with missile technology, local media reported.

Talking to reporters at the Shehbaz Airbase in southern Sindh province, he said Pakistan is making unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV drones) at the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex in the town of Kamra near Islamabad, Geo TV reported.

Asked if the F-16 aircraft that Pakistan recently received from the U.S. can down American drones, Suleman said that the Pakistan Air Force does not want any such situation.

The media people were taken to the Shehbaz Airbase to formally announce that the airbase is now under the complete control of the Pakistan Air Force.

The U.S., which used the airbase for drone attacks in Afghanistan and possibly in Pakistan, was told to vacate the base by Pakistan in the aftermath of the November 26 NATO strike on Pakistani posts, which had killed 24 soldiers.

The Air Chief said that 14 used F-16s were provided to Pakistan by the U.S. free of cost while 18 others have been bought.

The Army Chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani said on the occasion that the parliament reserves the right to decide on the resumption of NATO supplies.

He said that the final decision on whether NATO supplies will be allowed to pass through Pakistan for forces based in Afghanistan will be made by the Parliamentary Committee on National Security.

The Army Chief said that Pakistan and the U.S. are cooperating on defence operations and Pakistani officials are taken into confidence whenever bordering areas are to be attacked.

Talking about the Coalition Support Fund, which was set up by the U.S. Congress after the September 11, 2001, attacks to reimburse allies for costs in supporting the U.S.-led war on militancy, General Kayani said that Pakistan was yet to receive 1. 5 billion U.S. dollars from the U.S.

Pakistan making own spy aircraft: Air Chief - People's Daily Online

we receive 14 2nd hand F-16 are these Block 52+ and did we get 18 new F-16?
 
well frankly this hype has no meaning. The news nowhere indicates 18 new f-16s.
however its possible not confirmed though, that we may get 14 more from EDA(which were already paid for!!). What will be nature of these, we dont know.

LAstly block52 despite waht indians may say is still undoubtedly the best aircraft in the region

the j-10b which is still in testing stage may equal it but its questionable.


So in nutshell we should get as much as f-16s as we can to deter the MRCA
 
Yes, we can. I know, the current development in JF-17 avionics and still long way to go.



Yes likely. US is now favor India alliance over Pakistan. It is game change today. US gave F-16s specificiations for Pakistan to use against terrorists in WOT, not providing Apache helicopters.



COAS has numerous lies in his mouth, he didn't explain the truth. Newer F-16 Block 50+ is still with the most advanced chip virus and jammed system.

Pakistan's F-16 missile couldn't fire at Stealth helicopters after OBL raid, the systems was totally blocked. And during NATO helicopters attacked thousand Pakistani soldiers(specific 25-28 dead) on checkposts, there was no response from PAF within 2-5 hours.



Do you know what is identification friend or foe (IFF) system in F-16 systems which unable to fire at US, its alliance NATO and others?

http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistan-air-force/131900-f16-no-good-against-us-air-force.html

Pakistan happy to purchase this, oh wait, 14 more fighters and corruptions behind curtains.....:lol:




LOL Raptor do you have any idea how Kill switch works? Please explain me I want to know
As far as I know there are 3 possible ways to install Kill Switch
1. You have to put GPS transmitter in plane and check if it is going sumwhere near to Indian or Afghanistan border, thn freeze its attacking capability; which is not possible as our F-16's already flew near to afghanistan border for war against terrorism.
2. You have to track and monitor the plane through satellites which is also not possible because satellite can watch sum place for 6 hour thn it have to move to diff orbit
3. If Lockheed Marting installed sum planes by-default that this plane can't hit Nato planes(by there models or some different identities like F-16,F-15,F-18) Indian (Su-30,Mig-29) thn again its a bogus idea because how come they will know which aircraft PAF opponents will use in future?
Kill switch can cause problems and also can destroy the F-16 completly but my question is how US can enable that option?
Peace
 
LOL Raptor do you have any idea how Kill switch works? Please explain me I want to know
As far as I know there are 3 possible ways to install Kill Switch
1. You have to put GPS transmitter in plane and check if it is going sumwhere near to Indian or Afghanistan border, thn freeze its attacking capability; which is not possible as our F-16's already flew near to afghanistan border for war against terrorism.
2. You have to track and monitor the plane through satellites which is also not possible because satellite can watch sum place for 6 hour thn it have to move to diff orbit
3. If Lockheed Marting installed sum planes by-default that this plane can't hit Nato planes(by there models or some different identities like F-16,F-15,F-18) Indian (Su-30,Mig-29) thn again its a bogus idea because how come they will know which aircraft PAF opponents will use in future?
Kill switch can cause problems and also can destroy the F-16 completly but my question is how US can enable that option?
Peace

i think you should read this . . . .
Transponder (aviation) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

specially code assigned by ATC that type of thing can be done in f16's
 
Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleyman said the western and eastern borders were safe. About India’s cold start doctrine with a focus on aerial power, he said the PAF had the capability to avert any threat posed by the doctrine.

He said Pakistan had received 18 F-16 Block-52 planes, besides 14 used jets for almost free.

He said the Block-15 planes acquired in the early 80s were in the process of mid-term upgradation (MLU) to bring their avionics, radar and night operations capability on par with the Block-52 fighter jets.

He said two of the upgraded planes had recently been received while three more were due this month. He said all the remaining 30 planes would be delivered by 2014.

“The aim now is to train sufficient number of people and consolidate our position”. He said the hardware acquired in the recent past was sufficient to meet the country’s defence needs.

About prospects of a deal with China for purchase of J-10 fighter planes, he said that the PAF would like to go for it in case of availability of funds.

He brushed aside the impression that the modern F-16s had some inbuilt features restricting their capacity to intercept and attack the intruding US aircraft.

“We have not found any such thing in these aircraft”. He, however, said he hoped a situation would not arise to put it to test.

Answering a question, he said Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) for surveillance purposes were already being produced at Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC), Kamra. About killer drones, he said: “We will work on it”.

Earlier, Deputy Chief of Air Staff (operations) Air Marshal Waseemuddin said during a briefing that one of the four Airborne Warning and Control Systems (AWACS) from China had been delivered last month.

Answering a question, he said the PAF was bound by policies of the government and had no other special relationship with the US.

The Commander of Shahbaz Airbase said the US forces had been allowed to operate from the base after the 9/11 episode, but claimed that it had been vacated way back in 2004. He, however, confirmed that an unspecified number of technical experts from the US were at the base.

He said after acquisition of F-16 Block-52, there were two options, either to send a large number of personnel to the US or contract small teams of non-uniformed US personnel for training in specific areas.
 

PTV showing a Rafale in their background.. how ironic.. guess both the Indian media and Pakistani media love each other's equipment. If it were up to them, India would have F-16's and Jf-17's and Pakistan rafale's and Su-30's.
Anyhow..the BFF status of the two chief also underlines the new synergy between the PAF and PA.
Both in personnel and equipment.
 

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