Pakistan donating 500,000 chloroquine tablets to Italy: Italian ministry

[Dr. Strangelove]

Chloroquine and its less toxic Cousin Hydroxychloroquine are widely available in Pakistan and Pharma Industry in Pakistan has enough capacity to meet local demand if need be. This Donation is Symbolic in support to a nation that has always been helpful to Pakistan so no need to be greedy.

GOP has already stocked the drugs and has done it right so to stop its sale in general Population without a prescription. We dont need people to start taking them every time they think they have Covid-19 Symptoms as stupid our people are we will see our Hospitals flooded with HCQ and chloroquine toxicity.

 

[Asian.Century]

Chloroquine and its less toxic Cousin Hydroxychloroquine are widely available in Pakistan and Pharma Industry in Pakistan has enough capacity to meet local demand if need be. This Donation is Symbolic in support to a nation that has always been helpful to Pakistan so no need to be greedy.

GOP has already stocked the drugs and has done it right so to stop its sale in general Population without a prescription. We dont need people to start taking them every time they think they have Covid-19 Symptoms as stupid our people are we will see our Hospitals flooded with HCQ and chloroquine toxicity.

Pakistan has millions in its pharma industry, heard Pakistan has banned it from export too.

 

[BHarwana]

Pakistan has millions in its pharma industry, heard Pakistan has banned it from export too.

Pakistan has banned it for export from private sector but on request export is allowed. Now many countries have planned to make a shortage of the medicine for their enemies and if they purchase all from Pakistan through 3rd parties that will not be good so exporting it under control is the best policy. We gave China the medicine when they demanded. We gave it to Saudis Iran Italy Qatar UAE. Pakistan has no restrictions on demand export. The raw material comes in from China and production capacity is in millions per day.

 

[Asian.Century]

Govt again bans export of anti-malaria medicine manufactured in Pakistan
Mubarak Zeb Khan

Updated April 11

Commerce ministry issues new notification days after withdrawing the ban. — AFP/File
ISLAMABAD: Four days after withdrawing a ban on the export of all anti-malaria drugs, the ministry of commerce has again imposed the ban on the medicines to stockpile them in case of their possible use to treat Covid-19 patients.

The ban that has been imposed with immediate effect will remain in place until further decision of the National Coordination Committee (NCC) on Covid-19, according to SRO297 of 2020 issued here by commerce ministry on Friday.

The demand for export of anti-malaria drugs especially hydroxychloroquine gained importance after US President Donald Trump claimed that the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) had approved the use of “very powerful” drug Chloroquine to treat Covid-19.

For almost a week, there was confusion between the commerce division and the national health ministry about who was authorised to move a summary for allowing the export of or impose a ban on the anti-malaria medicines.

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Commerce ministry issues new notification days after withdrawing the ban

The commerce division had earlier termed a letter of Drug Regulatory Authority of Pakistan (Drap) seeking ban on exports of masks inappropriate.

According to an official source, the commerce division in the wake of the NCC meeting issued an order on April 3 banning the export of all anti-malaria drugs with immediate effect. “We have issued the order to implement the decision quickly,” the official said, adding it was decided that post-facto approval would be sought from the cabinet.

However, that order did not go down well with the national health ministry.

To resolve the issue, it was agreed that national health ministry would submit a summary to the federal cabinet for getting approval of imposing ban on export of all anti-malaria drugs.

The cabinet in its meeting on April 6 approved the ban, the source said. Interestingly, the commerce ministry on April 6 issued another order to withdraw its April 3 order regarding the imposition of ban on the export of all anti-malarial drugs.

To implement the cabinet meeting decision, the commerce ministry issued a new notification for imposing the ban on the medicine export, which was dated April 9. However, the notification was released to the media on Friday.

There are approximately 20 companies, which are manufacturing anti-malaria drugs.

At the same time to restrict use of anti-malaria drugs in domestic market, Drap has already asked medical stores to sell the drugs on doctors’ prescriptions only.

As per Drap record, there are around 25 million tablets and around 9,000 kilograms of raw material available in the market to produce drugs. The authority believes that the country has sufficient stock to meet any emergency.

According to an official statement of Drap, the Central Licensing Board of Drap has approved local manufacturing of Chloroquine Phosphate-Active Pharmaceutical Ingredient (API). Now Chloroquine API can be manufactured indigenously to meet the requirement of those pharmaceutical companies that prepare Chloroquine phosphate tablets, injections and syrups, it adds.

Tax exemption

Meanwhile, the Federal Board of Revenue (FBR) exempted funds meant for Prime Minister’s Covid-19 Pandemic Relief Fund-2020.

According to an income tax notification SRO300 of 2020 issued on Friday, all such funds will be exempted from income tax at any stage. No tax will be charged on transfer of such funds, cash withdrawal from banks, and banking transactions other than cash.

Published in Dawn, April 11th, 2020

Pakistan has banned it for export from private sector but on request export is allowed. Now many countries have planned to make a shortage of the medicine for their enemies and if they purchase all from Pakistan through 3rd parties that will not be good so exporting it under control is the best policy. We gave China the medicine when they demanded. We gave it to Saudis Iran Italy Qatar UAE. Pakistan has no restrictions on demand export. The raw material comes in from China and production capacity is in millions per day.

 

[The Accountant]

Cases in Pakistan - 23,214
Less than 15% of 23,214 = Less than 3482

Doctors are worried and whining about 3482 extra people? Either doctors are saying nonsense or you are. We now know for certain that this disease is far more serious than some ignorants were preaching.



When you lie and spew nonsense, it's hard to just simply post credible sources and instead the tactic is to resort to verbal ketchup. I now doubt if you're more than a clerk in a hospital when a newspaper seems credible source to you. When i asked for a source from a healthcare worker, i assumed he understood what a credible source is in our field. But what would you know?



Then don't give sweeping statements like that since it's not your field and you don't have the knowledge of it. As a microbiologist, i knew you were just spewing nonsense which is why i called you out on it. Time has proven me correct as the rate of hospitalizations are far greater than (less than 15%) and the mortality rate also varies. But i don't expect a clerk of some hospital (probably in some village) to understand how same virus can act differently.



It's hard to keep calm when an ignorant infuriates you with nonsense and then acts like a bigot dishing out negative ratings.



Maybe as a clerk, newspaper pass as evidence. In serious scientific discussions, you would get laughed at and called an idiot.

Your post stinks and is depending on verbal abuse.

Mr. Microbiologists, nobuddy knows for certain whats going on. Foe example in US, 20% of the people were already had antibodies which were never diagnosed corona. So 20% are those who dont even show any symptoms at all in US which is mich more wost the Pakistan.

You guys are worried about few thousand people while ignoring needa to 220 million.

More people will die of hunger or riots if we dont open then people getting effected feom virus

 

[PakSword]

Cases in Pakistan - 23,214
Less than 15% of 23,214 = Less than 3482

Doctors are worried and whining about 3482 extra people? Either doctors are saying nonsense or you are. We now know for certain that this disease is far more serious than some ignorants were preaching.



When you lie and spew nonsense, it's hard to just simply post credible sources and instead the tactic is to resort to verbal ketchup. I now doubt if you're more than a clerk in a hospital when a newspaper seems credible source to you. When i asked for a source from a healthcare worker, i assumed he understood what a credible source is in our field. But what would you know?



Then don't give sweeping statements like that since it's not your field and you don't have the knowledge of it. As a microbiologist, i knew you were just spewing nonsense which is why i called you out on it. Time has proven me correct as the rate of hospitalizations are far greater than (less than 15%) and the mortality rate also varies. But i don't expect a clerk of some hospital (probably in some village) to understand how same virus can act differently.



It's hard to keep calm when an ignorant infuriates you with nonsense and then acts like a bigot dishing out negative ratings.



Maybe as a clerk, newspaper pass as evidence. In serious scientific discussions, you would get laughed at and called an idiot.

Mr. Microbiologist, you don't know me, you don't know where I work, you don't know the kind of data I have access to, so calm down.

Now answer me, doctors are worried today or doctors are worried about the near future?

Second question is about data, can you tell me about:

-The total number of hospital beds in Pakistan
-the average utilization of beds before Corona hit us
-the number of ICU spaces in Pakistan
-number of ventilators
-the average utilization of ventilators before Corona
-the number of hospital beds, ICU spaces and ventilators available as of today for covid 19 patients
-the forecasted number of hospital beds, ICU spaces and ventilators required by the end of May 2020 at the rate of current spread in Pakistan with and without social distancing
-how many igg anti body test results coming positive of people who never experienced any symptoms
-what is the percentage of severity after taking into consideration the anti body tests

 

[PakFactor]

Okay g. Then all the shops in my city hate me and their business and don't want to sell it.

I should've quoted zafar mirza to them, maybe then they would've sold it to me.

Lol. Iftar ka bad try karna, poka pat ma kisi ka dil nai karta bolna ma .

 

[fisher1]

Mr. Microbiologist, you don't know me, you don't know where I work, you don't know the kind of data I have access to, so calm down.

Now answer me, doctors are worried today or doctors are worried about the near future?

Second question is about data, can you tell me about:

-The total number of hospital beds in Pakistan
-the average utilization of beds before Corona hit us
-the number of ICU spaces in Pakistan
-number of ventilators
-the average utilization of ventilators before Corona
-the number of hospital beds, ICU spaces and ventilators available as of today for covid 19 patients
-the forecasted number of hospital beds, ICU spaces and ventilators required by the end of May 2020 at the rate of current spread in Pakistan with and without social distancing
-how many igg anti body test results coming positive of people who never experienced any symptoms
-what is the percentage of severity after taking into consideration the anti body tests

None of that proves your 15% nonsensical number.

Would be easier if you just admit you didn't know and move on, especially since we now have much more public info that refutes your claim.

You would only gain respect but it seems like the higher ups here are bigots dishing out negative ratings and being condescending whenever someone gives an opposite opinion.

 

[PakSword]

Your post stinks and is depending on verbal abuse.

Mr. Microbiologists, nobuddy knows for certain whats going on. Foe example in US, 20% of the people were already had antibodies which were never diagnosed corona. So 20% are those who dont even show any symptoms at all in US which is mich more wost the Pakistan.

You guys are worried about few thousand people while ignoring needa to 220 million.

More people will die of hunger or riots if we dont open then people getting effected feom virus

You know I am really worried about the lack of analysis skills of my countrymen. It's a really sad situation. If the person is a PhD, then it's even worst.

An apparently educated person thinks Pakistan had 100 percent availability of ICUs and ventilators for Corona patients and without even having the information on total ventilators, and ICU spaces, he thinks serious cases shouldn't worry doctors in Pakistan.

None of that proves your 15% nonsensical number.

Would be easier if you just admit you didn't know and move on, especially since we now have much more public info that refutes your claim.

You would only gain respect but it seems like the higher ups here are bigots dishing out negative ratings and being condescending whenever someone gives an opposite opinion.

What's the public info?

 

[fisher1]

You know I am really worried about the lack of analysis skills of my countrymen. It's a really sad situation. If the person is a PhD, then it's even worst.

An apparently educated person thinks Pakistan had 100 percent availability of ICUs and ventilators for Corona patients and without even having the information on total ventilators, and ICU spaces, he thinks serious cases shouldn't worry doctors in Pakistan.


What's the public info?

Info about the number of sick people, requiring hospitalisation, mortality rate, recoveries. When just a few months back, it was theoretical predicted based on research on virus.

 

[PakSword]

Info about the number of sick people, requiring hospitalisation, mortality rate, recoveries. When just a few months back, it was theoretical predicted based on research on virus.

Thanks for not using profanities in your msg.

And what does this information tell you?

 

[fisher1]

Thanks for not using profanities in your msg.

And what does this information tell you?

Good bye

 

[PakSword]

Good bye

Seriously man, I thought you will educate us all as you are a microbiologist. I want to know the numbers in Pakistan. It's a serious request. I am ready to correct myself as the numbers are continuously chaning. This is a serious request, not a troll post.

We are trying to make PDF better, if you can contribute with real numbers or with the information you have as of now, you will be appreciated by many people. Don't worry about numbers/ rates changing in future as we are not here to predict anything.

 

[fisher1]

Seriously man, I thought you will educate us all as you are a microbiologist. I want to know the numbers in Pakistan. It's a serious request. I am ready to correct myself as the numbers are continuously chaning. This is a serious request, not a troll post.

We are trying to make PDF better, if you can contribute with real numbers or with the information you have as of now, you will be appreciated by many people. Don't worry about numbers/ rates changing in future as we are not here to predict anything.

I just received a soft warning for "educating" you so i learned you are untouchable. Not in mood for a ban at the moment.

You are correct, i am wrong and a liar. There, you win. Have a nice day

 

[The Accountant]

I just received a soft warning for "educating" you so i learned you are untouchable. Not in mood for a ban at the moment.

You are correct, i am wrong and a liar. There, you win. Have a nice day

You are not educating sir but spreading rumours. My sister works in a pharma and alone that pharma has a capacity of producing choloroquine gifted to Italy in just 2 days.