Pakistan court grants bail to 26/11 accused Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi: Reports

[fatman17]

Mumbai attack 'mastermind' Lakhvi detained under MPO
Mateen Haider
Published Dec 19, 2014 10:42am

ISLAMABAD: Alleged mastermind of the 26/11 Mumbai attacks Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi who was granted bail by an anti-terrorism court in Islamabad yesterday has been detained under the Maintenance of Public Order (MPO) at Rawalpindi's Adiala Jail.

 

[SamantK]

You assume too much. Are you a lawyer? Are you some sort of law expert? No. Emotional rants like this doesn't work in court. What work in court is Pakistani Law. Pakistani Law was not fulfilled in letter and spirit. Because of that a Judicial loophole occurred which was exploited by defense team. Just like Swami Aseemanand was given bail due to some fked up judicial loophole, Zaki got bail due to your own hypocrisy!

so you now make it personal when I presented with you certain points..
If you are really a Think Tank and an analyst, lets see some rebuttal?

 

[Strigon]

Read post 191 and do shed light on why India didn't allow Pakistani magistrate to cross examine Qassab?

@Strigon Great find brother Great Find. Thank you for exposing the hypocrisy of indians !

Thank you.

I have been getting sick for the last three days, watching them show fake solidarity on one thread and using the insane murderers in another thread to promote their own agenda against other grps that give them wet dreams.

And when you ask them about swami's bailout they give you all kind of BS reasons such as "he is closely watched" and "this is not pakistan", like I don't know which horse they ride on but it sure must be taller than Burj khalifa.

Not to mention they keep inflicting more insult on us when we SAY we didn't agree with this bailout. Even when govt. has appealed against his bail and now has detained him. They just need reasons to be....Indian.

 

[Bratva]

Cause not even a single evidence was produced linking him to the blasts.

And what evidences link Zaki to the Indian blasts, I might ask ?

so you now make it personal when I presented with you certain points..
If you are really a Think Tank and an analyst, lets see some rebuttal?

Let me ask one more time, Does your emotional rants fulfilled Pakistani law requirements on the basis of what we could have convicted Zaki ur rehman lakhvi ?

Answer Post 191 with some legal point of view not with emotional rants, will you? I don't want to hear indian childish insecurities that they had regarding Pakistani magistrate. We told you back in 2013, about the legalities in Pakistan. If you ignored it, then it's not our fault to began with

 

[Faizan12341234]

While you are at it, Explain why Swami Aseemanand granted bail Samjhota express blast case ?

Hes still in jail for 2 Other cases which will book him for life .

You know what you want us to do? You want us to hang a person without providing any shred of evidence of his involvement in any attack in India. We strongly condemn any attack on any civilian, but even this person is a civilian unless proved otherwise.

You want to be heartless, so be it.

His telephonic conversation records , Kasabs confessions , FBI Investigation reports . What india demanded was not his prosecution , we know the law, but a transparent investigation into his alleged work with an IndoPak joint team

 

[SamantK]

And what evidences link Zaki to the Indian blasts, I might ask ?

A lawyer of Pakistan's Federal Investigating Agency or FIA told NDTV that he had vehemently opposed Lakhvi's bail. "There is enough evidence against Lakhvi. We are shocked at how he got bail," said FIA special public prosecutor Azhar Chaudhry.

Why don't you ask your public prosecuter?

The Evidence Furnished Against 26/11 Accused Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi, Granted Bail Today

 

[Bratva]

A lawyer of Pakistan's Federal Investigating Agency or FIA told NDTV that he had vehemently opposed Lakhvi's bail. "There is enough evidence against Lakhvi. We are shocked at how he got bail," said FIA special public prosecutor Azhar Chaudhry.

Why don't you ask your public prosecuter?

The Evidence Furnished Against 26/11 Accused Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi, Granted Bail Today

This is what we Pakistani's do. Every sane pakistani wants that. But whose fault was that which caused judicial loophole? Don't evade my questions again and again.

 

[Mike_Brando]

I am one of many who mourned your dead in the terror attacks.

Sir,we have also mourned for those innocent little angels who were killed in cold blood by those bast@rd talibaboons.The whole Indian civil society is with Pakistan in this tragic moment.

 

[Bratva]

Cause not even a single evidence was produced linking him to the blasts.

What happened to all the initial confessions and the evidence collected which led to his arrest ?

 

[SamantK]

And what evidences link Zaki to the Indian blasts, I might ask ?



Let me ask one more time, Does your emotional rants fulfilled Pakistani law requirements on the basis of what we could have convicted Zaki ur rehman lakhvi ?

Answer Post 191 with some legal point of view not with emotional rants, will you? I don't want to hear indian childish insecurities that they had regarding Pakistani magistrate. We told you back in 2013, about the legalities in Pakistan. If you ignored it, then it's not our fault to began with

Another rant,I will answer. Focus on the bolded parts below and especially on the Red text

There is a reason why we are giving all the accused bail one by one and the reason is india hanging kasab prematurely
Bare with me while i try to explain this

I say prematurely because the case of the other 7 revolves around kasabs statement. According to pakistan law of evidence ( qanun e shahadat order1984) " if a witness has to give any statements against any person or has to be the eyewitness against any accused the witness must present himself infront of court. Alternatively the statement can be taken from the witness and presented in court by an authorized person such as a magistrate or judge"

As per pakistani law kasab had to appear in a pakistani court and be cross questioned, or the person who took kasab's statement as well as allow him or herself to be cross questioned. However due to the relations between the two countries this was not going to happen. Therefore pakistani law presented an alternative. If the above conditions could not be met then a judicial commision could travel to where kasab was and record his statement. In march 2012 pakistan sent a commision under the impression that india would allow it to meet kasab or the magistrate which took kasab's statement but on the last minute india refused! Not only was india hesitant in not presenting kasab to the judicial commision india also disallowed presenting the magistrate and verifying the statement made by kasab through cross questioning.
Question for indian here before continuing.
Why would india do that?

Moving on pakistani courts could have easily used either statement to used against the 7 accused in jail but sadly this didnt occur. Pakistan tried again several times but india refused. Then in november he was hanged and this was the final nail in the judicial commision. Together with limited findings and the lead witness dead the judge was left with no option but to release the accused on bail
I hope that clarifies everything thanks to all who read the whole thing

Now read this, you guys have been brainwashed enough to not read news out of your own country

The Commission came to the Magistrate court to cross-examine witnesses of the Mumbai attack, in connection with the prosecution of seven suspects held in Pakistan.
The Commission includes two officers from the Anti-Terrorism court of Pakistan, two defence witnesses and a new special public prosecutor.
The proceedings began with Special Public Prosecutor Ujjwal Nikam, representing the Government of India, introducing members of the Commission to the Court while emphasising the need of evidence from Indian witnesses against the attack conspirators whose trial is pending in Pakistan.
The evidence is being recorded by Additional Chief Metropolitan Magistrate, PY Ladekar.
The Indian witnesses are: City Magistrate, R V Sawant-Waghule who recorded LeT member Ajmal Kasab’s confession, the chief investigating officer in 26/11 case, Ramesh Mahale and two doctors who conducted the autopsy of the Pakistani terrorists who carried out the attacks in November 2008.
This is the Commission’s second visit to India. During the first visit, they had examined the same witnesses. Now, the witnesses are being cross-examined.
The permission for cross examination was denied earlier.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/608759/...judicial-commission-starts-cross-examination/

Claim on post #191 is hence demolished, now what do you have next?

What happened to all the initial confessions and the evidence collected which led to his arrest ?

There was no evidence, some investigation pointed to this guy after the LeT's role was dismissed. Anti-terror laws allows custody if investigation points to certain culprits before it has been established.
He retracted his confession as I said before and the court did not have evidence on him.

This is what we Pakistani's do. Every sane pakistani wants that. But whose fault was that which caused judicial loophole? Don't evade my questions again and again.

I'm surprised, you asked me what the evidence was..

Your Special Prosecutor says that there is enough evidence, what is it that you want?

 

[Bratva]

Another rant,I will answer. Focus on the bolded parts below and especially on the Red text




Now read this, you guys have been brainwashed enough to not read news out of your own country

The Commission came to the Magistrate court to cross-examine witnesses of the Mumbai attack, in connection with the prosecution of seven suspects held in Pakistan.
The Commission includes two officers from the Anti-Terrorism court of Pakistan, two defence witnesses and a new special public prosecutor.
The proceedings began with Special Public Prosecutor Ujjwal Nikam, representing the Government of India, introducing members of the Commission to the Court while emphasising the need of evidence from Indian witnesses against the attack conspirators whose trial is pending in Pakistan.
The evidence is being recorded by Additional Chief Metropolitan Magistrate, PY Ladekar.
The Indian witnesses are: City Magistrate, R V Sawant-Waghule who recorded LeT member Ajmal Kasab’s confession, the chief investigating officer in 26/11 case, Ramesh Mahale and two doctors who conducted the autopsy of the Pakistani terrorists who carried out the attacks in November 2008.
This is the Commission’s second visit to India. During the first visit, they had examined the same witnesses. Now, the witnesses are being cross-examined.
The permission for cross examination was denied earlier.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/608759/...judicial-commission-starts-cross-examination/

Claim on post #191 is hence demolished, now what do you have next?



There was no evidence, some investigation pointed to this guy after the LeT's role was dismissed. Anti-terror laws allows custody if investigation points to certain culprits before it has been established.
He retracted his confession as I said before and the court did not have evidence on him.

Answer a simple question, Did Pakistani Magistrate recorded Kasab confession in person or not ?

 

[SamantK]

Answer a simple question, Did Pakistani Magistrate recorded Kasab confession in person or not ?

Did you read the news above?

 

[Bratva]

Did you read the news above?

Alas, That is problem of our system. Apparently the alternative view was provided by Pak Government at that time. The court didn't agreed with government interpretation of Law and they went with the old definition of what Law means couple with Prosecutor was killed last year of Zaki case.

 

[SamantK]

Alas, That is problem of our system. Apparently the alternative view was provided by Pak Government at that time. The court didn't agreed with government interpretation of Law and they went with the old definition of what Law means couple with Prosecutor was killed last year of Zaki case.

And thus, India should be demonized because nobody read the news properly.

Shouting from the roof tops that access to Kasab was not given, I mean why this propaganda?

And if you read in the post #191 the poster said it was Pakistani Law which presented the alternative not the Govt. What you said is also not clear to you, obviously these flip-flops lost any chance of a meaningful prosecution.

 

[definitelynotIndian]

Mumbai attack 'mastermind' Lakhvi detained under MPO
Mateen Haider
Published Dec 19, 2014 10:42am

ISLAMABAD: Alleged mastermind of the 26/11 Mumbai attacks Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi who was granted bail by an anti-terrorism court in Islamabad yesterday has been detained under the Maintenance of Public Order (MPO) at Rawalpindi's Adiala Jail.

now to make sure he is not making babies while under detention