Pakistan could get revenge for 1971 with a three front war to cut off northeast Indian states

[Curious22]

You sure that it's not the plot for an Israeli movie? Love own kind? I wonder where is this case system being practiced? Certainly not in scandanavia.

Sorry for my weak English. It's true cast system influence their behaviour towards other Hindus (though it is more intense in India) but still they place even their lowest cast above any Muslims. One may be the lowest cast among all Hindus but he will still be considered above than any non-Hindus (like Muslims/ Christians).
I used to have many Hindu friend in my childhood and I sometimes used to hear them heavily admire any Hindu person who helps "sojat", sojat means people of one's own nation (they usually prioritize religion based national identity above all other sorts). While we Muslim students praised any charitable person who helps people (doesn't matter which religion his recipients of donation follows), it seemed that their charitable Hindus always exclusively helped Hindu people caused they always focused their praising of them on that very point. While it's true in my country that a Hindu charitable person usually only helps Hindus, but it seems they won't get any extra(or any?) praise from fellow Hindus if he/she helped non-Hindus too. I think this expresses their fierce religion based nationalistic mentality in their own immoral way.
I hope you understand now why I admired them for their "love for their own kind".

 

[HAIDER]

Sorry for my weak English. It's true cast system influence their behaviour towards other Hindus (though it is more intense in India) but still they place even their lowest cast above any Muslims. One may be the lowest cast among all Hindus but he will still be considered above than any non-Hindus (like Muslims/ Christians).
I used to have many Hindu friend in my childhood and I sometimes heard them heavily admire any Hindu person who helps "sojat", which means people of their own nation (they usually prioritize religion based national identity above all other sorts). While we Muslim students praised any charitable person who helps people (doesn't matter which religion his recipients of donation follows), it seemed that their charitable Hindus always exclusively helped Hindu people caused they always focused their praising of them on that very point. While it's true in my country that a Hindu charitable person usually only helps Hindus, but it seems they won't get any extra(or any?) praise from fellow Hindus if he/she helped non-Hindus too. I think this expresses their fierce religion based nationalistic mentality in their own immoral way.
I hope you understand now why I admired them for their "love for their own kind".

You are right, today watching Indian tv ,a cartoon show based on King Akbar short story. Where show the King was dumb and his 9 Ratan/Hindu were exceptionally smart and basically the savior of King.

 

[Zhukov]

Whether we are ready or not, war is coming to us. Better to prepare and meet the challenge head on.

Fascist India will never stop warmongering against any of its neighbors, esp us.

Only Allah knows if their is a war or not for sure. But if their is a war looming around then trust me these Current gen popular weapon systems will be completely useless. Jets, Tanks, Massive Artillery Cannons etc. these are just useful for Counter insurgency in modern war theater. World have not seen a single battle of two modern armies at war with each other.
If their will be a war then their will be MASSIVE MASSIVE civilian and Infrastructural loss the worl have not seen before. Whole Military Bases, Industrial Complexes and Industrial Zones will be leveled. Their will not be any conventional air force to fly. Classic Bombing Runs and Mass movement of Armies will be impossible. Only Sheltered Tactical Weapons will be of use. Strategic Missiles, Special mission Aircraft in Protective Shelters, Naval Assets, Submarine mounted weapons etc.
Procuring and Arming Millions of men for war will not be the problem. Mobilizing them and Feeding them for the campaign will be the modern war.
Nothing can be said with surety. But Modern war is a horror story. Specially between technologically equivalent foes like India and Pakistan.
Some times i do believe that their should have been a decisive war between India and Pakistan during 50s and 60s and this sh**show should have been settled once in for all. Now this is a constant Ticking Time bomb toward total destruction of both countries. And neither have the capacity to settle the differences through dialogue

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Only Allah knows if their is a war or not for sure. But if their is a war looming around then trust me these Current gen popular weapon systems will be completely useless. Jets, Tanks, Massive Artillery Cannons etc. these are just useful for Counter insurgency in modern war theater. World have not seen a single battle of two modern armies at war with each other.
If their will be a war then their will be MASSIVE MASSIVE civilian and Infrastructural loss the worl have not seen before. Whole Military Bases, Industrial Complexes and Industrial Zones will be leveled. Their will not be any conventional air force to fly. Classic Bombing Runs and Mass movement of Armies will be impossible. Only Sheltered Tactical Weapons will be of use. Strategic Missiles, Special mission Aircraft in Protective Shelters, Naval Assets, Submarine mounted weapons etc.
Procuring and Arming Millions of men for war will not be the problem. Mobilizing them and Feeding them for the campaign will be the modern war.
Nothing can be said with surety. But Modern war is a horror story. Specially between technologically equivalent foes like India and Pakistan.
Some times i do believe that their should have been a decisive war between India and Pakistan during 50s and 60s and this sh**show should have been settled once in for all. Now this is a constant Ticking Time bomb toward total destruction of both countries. And neither have the capacity to settle the differences through dialogue

Eventually Indian warmongering will precipitate such a war. It will be a tough battle and we may lose many lives initially, but I believe strongly that we have the capability and unity to win such a war.

I don't know if you listen to Sufia Akram, one Ni'matullah Shah Wali from 1400s Iran predicted a war between Hindus and Muslims (India and Pakistan.) He said they will invade and take up to the river Attock, it will turn red with blood, but then Muslims will unite and defeat them in a final victory in that war.

 

[Zhukov]

Eventually Indian warmongering will precipitate such a war. It will be a tough battle and we may lose many lives initially, but I believe strongly that we have the capability and unity to win such a war.

I don't know if you listen to Sufia Akram, one Ni'matullah Shah Wali from 1400s Iran predicted a war between Hindus and Muslims (India and Pakistan.) He said they will invade and take up to the river Attock, it will turn red with blood, but then Muslims will unite and defeat them in a final victory in that war.

I will not comment on that because i respect what everyone beliefs and don't consider my knowledge and understanding to be absolute.
But always remember IF this war happens that many of my Pakistani Brothers want, Then me and you will not be here typing and chatting on our Computers. their might not be a me and you left. It will not be simply "Tough". we city folks, we will die along with our Children and Elders........Most of us. Even if we survive the war, We are burger people, we are not strong enough to survive the barbaric post war ruined 3rd world country. Look at central Africa, Afghanistan and Syria. Warlord Ruling, No central Authority, Nation state being glued together only by force and tyranny. That will be what post war India and Pakistan will look like. And this is the best case scenario and God Forbade their is not Nuclear exchange in which case this will be a radioactive wasteland.
Their will not be any victors or songs of war and bravery.
Just Veils of Misery and Curses from our surviving generations who will hate us and ridicule us for starting this war and destroyed their future. Turning two strong stable countries into pile of S*** and Rubble...... Try reflecting on that my friend.
Regards

 

[shah_123]

Stop dreaming and wake up, we have a pacifist PM and establishment.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I will not comment on that because i respect what everyone beliefs and don't consider my knowledge and understanding to be absolute.
But always remember IF this war happens that many of my Pakistani Brothers want, Then me and you will not be here typing and chatting on our Computers. their might not be a me and you left. It will not be simply "Tough". we city folks, we will die along with our Children and Elders........Most of us. Even if we survive the war, We are burger people, we are not strong enough to survive the barbaric post war ruined 3rd world country. Look at central Africa, Afghanistan and Syria. Warlord Ruling, No central Authority, Nation state being glued together only by force and tyranny. That will be what post war India and Pakistan will look like. And this is the best case scenario and God Forbade their is not Nuclear exchange in which case this will be a radioactive wasteland.
Their will not be any victors or songs of war and bravery.
Just Veils of Misery and Curses from our surviving generations who will hate us and ridicule us for starting this war and destroyed their future. Turning two strong stable countries into pile of S*** and Rubble...... Try reflecting on that my friend.
Regards

Regardless of what we want or think, drum beating from India will not get softer but even more deafening until the hordes are upon us.

There is no irrationality in preparing for that eventuality, molding the society to meet the coming challenge, and patching up any loose ends or fifth columns.

I believe in Pakistan and in our resolve, but most of all our faith in Allah swt. If we die, let us meet Allah swt as shuhadah. If we live, we can create a new and better world for the rest.

We have gone through death and destruction, India brought it on us for almost a decade through TTP daily bombings. We lost 75,000 of our people. We did nothing to deserve that.

So obviously sitting still and wishing for the best does not cut it anymore. I don't want us to bury any more of our kids in APS like massacres without the resolve or derermination to pay back the enemy multifold.

 

[Zhukov]

Regardless of what we want or think, drum beating from India will not get softer but even more deafening until the hordes are upon us.

There is no irrationality in preparing for that eventuality, molding the society to meet the coming challenge, and patching up any loose ends or fifth columns.

I believe in Pakistan and in our resolve, but most of all our faith in Allah swt. If we die, let us meet Allah swt as shuhadah. If we live, we can create a new and better world for the rest.

We have gone through death and destruction, India brought it on us for almost a decade through TTP daily bombings. We lost 75,000 of our people. We did nothing to deserve that.

So obviously sitting still and wishing for the best does not cut it anymore. I don't want us to bury any more of our kids in APS like massacres without the resolve or derermination to pay back the enemy multifold.

What Preparation and patching up loose ends bhai. We cannot even grow our own food. Fight off a wild animal, Or Create herbal remedies for diseases or Defend our children from Armed bands of Gangs rooming freely in a broken social order. We cannot survive without industrial base. Accept it. If you think such war will be OK that will bring down modern Industrialized Civilization then be mentally prepare for what will come after that.
Look at what this corona virus have done to us in just 10 days. imagine post war Pakistan. At least i don't want it. And Pray to Allah please Protect us from any such calamity and let sense prevail in the people making the decisions.

Again i cannot say for sure what will happen in future. But Allah don't want his creation to suffer and rot in a nuclear war. It will be our own stupidity that lead us to this. So If such tragedy happen please don't call it "will of Allah". The millions that died in world Wars were stupidity of some few people ruling those countries. Allah have given us sense and Rationale that is blessed only to humans and no other animal or plant in this world. If we still blindly slam our heads into wall then its our own decision.

Anyways Modern History of Subcontinent suggest otherwise. We folks are not Warfare material believe it or not.
I believe the Saffron War hysteria gripping India lately is just a Hinduism version of Radical Extremism that have gripped our countries for decades and now fortunately getting off after operation zarb e Azb. And it is fueled not by logic but by Stupidity and Mass Ignorance in India. and it will Hopefully wane off in time.

We as Muslims Should pray to Allah. And Be PREPARED for any Misadventure of our enemy into our lands but not WANT it. As for India-Pakistan Rivalry is concerned. Take a look at South and North Korea. They are locked in a much bitter conflict for 70 years now much worse then India and Pakistan. But South Korea have already won the war with north Korea without firing a single Bullet. USA have defeated the Mighty Soviet Union without Fighting a single soldier on Soviet or American Land. Welcome to modern age. War is still their, but battlefields have changed. those who keep fighting on old battlefields always loose the war. China have Risen to Challenge USA without firing a single bullet at any US Soldier. And If China overtakes and Beat USA down that will also be without firing a single bullet. Check all those conflicts out as well.

 

[ChennaiDude]

Quit dancing. Your opinions harmonise with Modi on everything - coincidence is it? Yet you brag that you are free to disagree with Trump because of the freedoms you enjoy in USA. I think you're a standard bhakt, nothing remotely complicated. You wouldn't dream of bearing arms against Hindustan. So you can drop the pretence. No "American" comes on here and bangs on about how perfect India is and how wonderful it is that Indians form Trump's entourage. The types that do so - fair play to them - have the common decency to declare themselves as having dual interests.

Your loyalties are obviously split - which is nothing to be ashamed of - yet you brag here that you'd bear arms against Hindustan if USA asked you to - bull.

I just told you what I stand for- I am not here to convince you- Modi is lesser of the evil at this point-But yes- I am an American first-Kasam sey!

Leave Kashmir to Kashmiris. Worry about Chennai.

India is the key word- Both Chennai and Kashmir is part of India- And I am not worries about both.

india does not have the luxury the claim the Kashmiri land for themselves...article 370 didn't mean anything to anyone in the world for the last 70+ years, and its abrogation doesn't mean anything now. Unfortunately for india, it is no british raj and the Kashmiris have a nuclear armed Pakistan that can violate india's self proclaimed sovereignty at will both on the surface and the air AT WILL backing them up.

India has claimed Kashmir- You cant do anything about it- Thats the bitter truth."article 370 didn't mean anything to anyone in the world"- Pakistan is not the world and Article 370 is abolished, so go cry me a river. India is a Nuclear power which will protect Kashmir (Violations have been tried in the past with nothing to show)- Keep what you have and if push comes to shove, you guys might lose more ground- Thats the hard truth and your armed forces know that.

45% Kashmir is under indian occupation. Pakistan has domain over 35%.
india doesn't have all of Kashmir.............

Thats fine with India- So status Quo is best option know- everyone is happy (You forgot to add 20 Percent by China)

vaali bongi

What the Duck is "vaali bongi"-

 

[ChennaiDude]

word's most hideously ugly and physically repulsive sub-human creatures aka gangus or indians...........................

Reported.

 

[ChennaiDude]

Sure sure. india can't gain ANY land from Pakistan................if you could you would have done so by now................you forget that we have more nuclear weapons than india does and NO Pakistani would ever accept being ruled by the word's most hideously ugly and physically repulsive sub-human creatures aka gangus or indians...........................if india did try to attack Pakistan, you would be facing a vicious force That would make ISIS look like choir boys.......


Seems like you are getting your info from the same retarded low IQ gangu source that claimed that the iaf killed exactly 350 terrorists in Balakot and shot down an F-16..............




PS By trying to displace the Kashmiris in IOK, you are getting rid of the ONLY community in india that resembles the rest of humanity. If the Kashmiris are displaced from IOK, it will become a region that is inhabited by insanely racially inferior indians who are also the world's most hideously ugly and physically repulsive creatures on planet earth who look worst than disabled, deformed chimpanzees. Think about that reality.

Read again- when did I say anything about India attacking Pakistan- It was you who spoke about Pak being Nuclear- Blah blah blah- What does it matter who has more Nuclear weapons- we have enough to destry Pakistan you have enough to destroy India- Thats why I said - Status Quo is the only option- If not its MAD.

But it's still the truth if you disgusting smelly sub-human creatures........

Dont worry - I have also sent the link to the below- https://www.aclu.org/report/reports-un-cerd-race-and-ethnicity-united-states-

 

[ChennaiDude]

Little weiner boy, I honestly don't give a flying f**k...........

lol- Your obsession with Weiners- Yawn.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

lol- Your obsession with Weiners- Yawn.

Because that's what your kind have......:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6161691.stm

 

[ChennaiDude]

Because that's what your kind have......:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6161691.stm

So thats what you do in your spare time-checking out Weiner news- Nothing wrong with it man- Its all good- Just own it- get out of the closet it will help your mental health.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

India is the key word- Both Chennai and Kashmir is part of India- And I am not worries about both.

Difference between Kashmiris and Tamils is day and night, respectively.

How can you even say that with a straight face?

Kashmiris are a Pakistani race and have allegiance to Pakistan.