Pakistan concerned as Bangladesh hands six Jamaat leaders death penalty

[American Pakistani]

1. Chittagong Hill Tracts tribes are not native to the soil. They were refugees escaping the massacres when Barmans took over Arakan a couple of centuries ago. They have no right to demand independence and they have signed a peace agreement with BD anyway.

2. There is an insurgency in Balochistan currently. I am not supporting BLA here but if Pakistan is so confident then please hold a referendum to prove that the majority of the residents want to stay part of Pakistan.

They are native tribals and Pahari people. You can twist as much as you want. The facts stays. They have every right to demand freedom just like bangladeshis had.

There is only insurgency by your terrorists of BLA. Other than that Balochistan have their own govt now. Many tribes seek more autonomy and royalty though, which will be decided by Provinial and federal govt. My question is why would Pakistan bow down to your bla terrorist brethren? I can' believe you live in UK and are big supporter of BLA terrorists ideology. British secret agencies should have a look on you as BLA is declared terrorist organization in UK.

 

[Mage]

Don't bullshit here. Pakistan has a higher nominal GDP because of better manufacturing and better services. Don't give me this higher population trash.

The higher population argument may work for GDP per capita being less.

How is Pakistan much more unsafer than Bangladesh?

Pakistan has a much higher nominal GDP than Bangladesh. You can't beat that! LOL

LOL just don't go to wikipedia, wikipedia can be modified by any buffoon.

Pakistan has much less poverty than Bangladesh.

So go do your chest thumping somewhere else. lol.

Lol...does Pakistan even manufacture anything? Then where is your exports? Or it is consumed by super rich Pakistanis?
I'm not talking about Wikipedia Mr. Iqbal. It was published in the economist. It was also published in your own news outlets.

 

[American Pakistani]

So how many shots Myanmar fired inside BD? Zero. We gave them warnings. We couldn't just shoot them down for simply airspace violation. That would make us look bad and more importantly it would drag us into unnecessary conflict.

About India...BSF exists to protect their borders. They mostly kill smugglers. One killing got some press attention years ago. And there the victim was going/returning from India to BD. When BSF tried something adventurous in 2001 they were put to their place. Google India-Bangladesh border conflict of 2001. Overall you'll see more Indian army personnel died compared to BD army personnel in India-BD borders from violent incidents.

Hahahaha. You are one funny j. First you claim US is entering Pakistan's airspace by Pakistan's permission, but you now saying that Myanmar can do multiple violation at their will without Bdsh's consensus and you won' shoot them down just to "look good".

As per the shootings, girls, boys, old man, women, all are being shot dead by India. Does Bdsh have half the population as smugglers?

 

[UKBengali]

They are native tribals and Pahari people. You can twist as much as you want. The facts stays. They have every right to demand freedom just like bangladeshis had.

There is only insurgency by your terrorists of BLA. Other than that Balochistan have their own govt now. Many tribes seek more autonomy and royalty though, which will be decided by Provinial and federal govt. My question is why would Pakistan bow down to your bla terrorist brethren? I can' believe you live in UK and are big supporter of BLA terrorists ideology. British secret agencies should have a look on you as BLA is declared terrorist organization in UK.

Here is my quote: "I am not supporting BLA here"

Does that look like support of BLA?

Pretty desperate way to try to turn the attention away from a free referendum on whether Balochistan wishes to secede?

CHT is part of greater Chittagong Division and it would only make logical sense to hold a referendum in that area. Why wast time when around 85% of the people are ethnic Bengali Muslims? By your logic, we ought to hold a referendum in areas of Punjab that have majority Sikh population.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Lol...does Pakistan even manufacture anything? Then where is your exports? Or it is consumed by super rich Pakistanis?
I'm not talking about Wikipedia Mr. Iqbal. It was published in the economist. It was also published in your own news outlets.

Pakistan manufactures foodstuff, surgical instruments, bed linen cloth, clothing, and soccer balls from Sialkot for example. There is a lot more, like JF-17 manufacturing.

Does Bangladesh come close to those things. lol?

 

[American Pakistani]

But this Iqbal Ali guy claims BD is very backward compared to Pakistan. You have your problems. We have ours. You can blame Afghan and India but they are your enemies because of your policies. Similarly Americans can conduct air strikes because of your policies. And you guys need to understand that.

"Every suffering in this world in born from individual incompetence." This is a quote from an anime "Tokyo Ghoul". Which I find very true for our cases. Others do what they do to you because you are that way. You need to understand this. Blaming others for your problems only harms you and makes you stuck, or worse takes you backwards. Blaming Mukti Bahini and Mujib for 1971 only hides your mismanagements. Having India as enemy is your foreign policy failure. You have to fight a war like a world war because of your policies. You need to understand this. In this thread it is you guys showing concern about our internal matter. Calling BD backwards and having the impression that BD is much behind you is what your rulers want to create to hide their failure in 1971. In the end BD remains what it is. And all you get is some false satisfaction. BD is similar. Hasina tries to turn attention to somewhere else by saying something about Pakistan when she is in a pinch. We go to pre 1971 and try to show it as an excuse of why we haven't been able to better. And that's bot the way either . You'll never see me blaming Pakistan for BD's misfortune. Because the fault I see is on BD. For not being able to get their fair share of development before 1971. And its also our fault that BD's progress was almost non existent in its first 20 years. You have to see the reality and take responsibility. Feeling some false sense of security by thinking someone is worse than you doesn't help to improve you.

You are just farting what is being fed in your brain cells.

First of all who tf are you to talk about Pakistan? What do you know about Pakistan? You call it Pakistani policy failure? Afghanistan attacked Pakistan in 50's, we had no issues and a new born nation struggling to survive. At that time, Pakistan airforce was very weak and consists of old era jets whereas Afghanistan was rich and more developed than Pakistan and had much better airforce and army. Pakistan's tribals from FATA and Waziristan without waiting for Pakistan Army (who was mostly stretched in eastern front due to india), repulsed the Afghan attack and thrash them deep into their territory. Still Pakistan didn' touch them, infact when Soviets destroyed their land, Pakistan send it' ISI and airforce to help repulse the invasion. Thousands of Pakistani civilians helped Pakistan by joining militias to repulse the attacks and Pakistan open its doors to weak Afghans, their women, kids, elderly. Pakistan allowed them to settle anywhere they want in Pakistan with no questions asked. Pakistan hosted world' largest refugees despite being poor with limited resources and jobs, almost 5 to 8 millions Afghans were in the country even today. Look at your own country, despite of having ethnic and cultural, religious similarity with Rohingya, your hasina offered Myanmar help against fighting Rohingya. If today Afghanistan is acting weird and helping Pakistan's enemies, is it Pakistqn's fault or namakharami attitude?
Similarly india your master occupied Pakistani territory of Kashmir when Kashmiris decided to join Pakistan claiming hat Maharaja annex the state with india. On the hypocrisy level of 100 scoring 110, India on the other hand occupied Junagadh, Manvadar and Hyderabad Deccan whose Rulers signed annexation with Pakistan or stayed independence, claiming population was Hindu. Is Pakistan wrong here too? Today itself Kashmiris hold Pakistani flags and wish for independence, they get massacred, killed in fake enounters because they ask for their promised right of self determination by Nehru and UN. Pakistan will keep supporting them because for Pakistan, Kashmiri lives matter more than being selfish and busy in its own world.

As for your nonsense rant in second part, learn some truth as you have internet freedom instead of posting cr@cr@. Nobody in Pakistan gives a fkk what goes in Bdsh. If you progress, good that another Muslim country is progressing, if you suffer, sad, but none of our business. No politics is done in pakistan on Bdsh. On the contrary, it is quite opposite, bdsh try to force it' relevance by sleeping, waking, sitting, standing, drinking, eating, they curse and talk Pakistan. All your politics is done on Pakistan. And when you murder your elders on the name of Pakistan, you succeed in getting our attention because Jamaat e Islami is linked with Pakistan's Jamiat, MMA, Turkish Justice, Egyptian's Brotherhood, etc etc.

 

[MultaniGuy]

I do wish Bangladesh the best. But Bangladesh better overall than Pakistan?

I don't think so.

Yes Bangladesh is better in some indices than Pakistan like GDP per capita and not even by that much. But not in most.

 

[American Pakistani]

Here is my quote: "I am not supporting BLA here"

Does that look like support of BLA?

Pretty desperate way to try to turn the attention away from a free referendum on whether Balochistan wishes to secede?

CHT is part of greater Chittagong Division and it would only make logical sense to hold a referendum in that area. Why wast time when around 85% of the people are ethnic Bengali Muslims? By your logic, we ought to hold a referendum in areas of Punjab that have majority Sikh population.

But you are supporting the ideology of bla. It is only bla terrorists and their supporters who upholds that ideology.

Like I said the only reason Chittagong was brought was because your bangali brethren dragged Balochistan. Don' expect others to sit back and accept your bs while you continue.

 

[UKBengali]

But you are supporting the ideology of bla. It is only bla terrorists and their supporters who upholds that ideology.

Like I said the only reason Chittagong was brought was because your bangali brethren dragged Balochistan. Don' expect others to sit back and accept your bs while you continue.

Ok. We all know that India supports BLA and they supply money, arms and training which has fuelled the insurgency in Balochistan.

Back on topic, while I do not agree with the politically motivated killings of Jamaat leaders but this is a BD internal matter and Pakistan should really have said nothing. It just gives fuel to Hasina to label all her opponents as traitors.
I do acknowledge that Pakistan government was under pressure from it's Islamist parties to have made the statement though.

 

[American Pakistani]

Ok. We all know that India supports BLA and they supply money, arms and training which has fuelled the insurgency in Balochistan.

Back on topic, while I do not agree with the politically motivated killings of Jamaat leaders but this is a BD internal matter and Pakistan should really have said nothing. It just gives fuel to Hasina to label all her opponents as traitors.
I do acknowledge that Pakistan government was under pressure from it's Islamist parties to have made the statement though.

Thanks for understanding my point.

And you answered yourself in this post. Mostly Pakistan responded due to the pressure of Islamic parties, which is why this thing came into light and other citizen became aware. And after becoming aware of the news that elderly people who supported Pakistan were being killed in Bangladesh, more Pakistanis will have bad image of Bangladesh, NOT saying that Bangladesh HAS to create a good image.

 

[Nilgiri]

Bangladesh may be ahead in HDI, but not by much.

HDI also uses severely compromised (relative to Pakistan and India and whole region actually) BD data:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/repository-for-bd-statistics-bbs-quality-credibility.525379/

Bangladesh is behind everyone in reality....their statistics are atrociously corrupt and flawed compared to even the region.

and responded by sensitive @Nilgiri

Maybe I should post all those replies you begged for to help with your "close family" medical visit to India (BD being an LDC and all)? Show who is really the sensitive one in real life catty boy?

Let me tag the ones that thanked you so they read this too . @Nabil365 @Khan saheb @Bilal9

When CPEC completed, Pakistan would be far more wealth than BD, that's for sure.

If BD has same quality level of institution and accountability as Pakistan, BD would do a lot lot worse.

Of course Pakistan needs much improvement too, but it is actually improving unlike BD. Anyone can check transparency international CPI index for example.

I wonder if Bangladesh would be still alive if it faced such situation.

They get a preview each day at the border each day. BSF is completely unchallenged...BD is not worthy to speak of in same sentence as Pakistan on the security+sovereignty issue.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Bangladesh is an LDC. Don't compare it to an emerging market like Pakistan.

 

[Bilal9]

But this Iqbal Ali guy claims BD is very backward compared to Pakistan. You have your problems. We have ours. You can blame Afghan and India but they are your enemies because of your policies. Similarly Americans can conduct air strikes because of your policies. And you guys need to understand that.

"Every suffering in this world in born from individual incompetence." This is a quote from an anime "Tokyo Ghoul". Which I find very true for our cases. Others do what they do to you because you are that way. You need to understand this. Blaming others for your problems only harms you and makes you stuck, or worse takes you backwards. Blaming Mukti Bahini and Mujib for 1971 only hides your mismanagements. Having India as enemy is your foreign policy failure. You have to fight a war like a world war because of your policies. You need to understand this. In this thread it is you guys showing concern about our internal matter. Calling BD backwards and having the impression that BD is much behind you is what your rulers want to create to hide their failure in 1971. In the end BD remains what it is. And all you get is some false satisfaction. BD is similar. Hasina tries to turn attention to somewhere else by saying something about Pakistan when she is in a pinch. We go to pre 1971 and try to show it as an excuse of why we haven't been able to better. And that's bot the way either . You'll never see me blaming Pakistan for BD's misfortune. Because the fault I see is on BD. For not being able to get their fair share of development before 1971. And its also our fault that BD's progress was almost non existent in its first 20 years. You have to see the reality and take responsibility. Feeling some false sense of security by thinking someone is worse than you doesn't help to improve you.

BRAVO!!!

Well said!!

You are just farting what is being fed in your brain cells.

First of all who tf are you to talk about Pakistan? What do you know about Pakistan? You call it Pakistani policy failure? Afghanistan attacked Pakistan in 50's, we had no issues and a new born nation struggling to survive. At that time, Pakistan airforce was very weak and consists of old era jets whereas Afghanistan was rich and more developed than Pakistan and had much better airforce and army. Pakistan's tribals from FATA and Waziristan without waiting for Pakistan Army (who was mostly stretched in eastern front due to india), repulsed the Afghan attack and thrash them deep into their territory. Still Pakistan didn' touch them, infact when Soviets destroyed their land, Pakistan send it' ISI and airforce to help repulse the invasion. Thousands of Pakistani civilians helped Pakistan by joining militias to repulse the attacks and Pakistan open its doors to weak Afghans, their women, kids, elderly. Pakistan allowed them to settle anywhere they want in Pakistan with no questions asked. Pakistan hosted world' largest refugees despite being poor with limited resources and jobs, almost 5 to 8 millions Afghans were in the country even today. Look at your own country, despite of having ethnic and cultural, religious similarity with Rohingya, your hasina offered Myanmar help against fighting Rohingya. If today Afghanistan is acting weird and helping Pakistan's enemies, is it Pakistqn's fault or namakharami attitude?
Similarly india your master occupied Pakistani territory of Kashmir when Kashmiris decided to join Pakistan claiming hat Maharaja annex the state with india. On the hypocrisy level of 100 scoring 110, India on the other hand occupied Junagadh, Manvadar and Hyderabad Deccan whose Rulers signed annexation with Pakistan or stayed independence, claiming population was Hindu. Is Pakistan wrong here too? Today itself Kashmiris hold Pakistani flags and wish for independence, they get massacred, killed in fake enounters because they ask for their promised right of self determination by Nehru and UN. Pakistan will keep supporting them because for Pakistan, Kashmiri lives matter more than being selfish and busy in its own world.

As for your nonsense rant in second part, learn some truth as you have internet freedom instead of posting cr@cr@. Nobody in Pakistan gives a fkk what goes in Bdsh. If you progress, good that another Muslim country is progressing, if you suffer, sad, but none of our business. No politics is done in pakistan on Bdsh. On the contrary, it is quite opposite, bdsh try to force it' relevance by sleeping, waking, sitting, standing, drinking, eating, they curse and talk Pakistan. All your politics is done on Pakistan. And when you murder your elders on the name of Pakistan, you succeed in getting our attention because Jamaat e Islami is linked with Pakistan's Jamiat, MMA, Turkish Justice, Egyptian's Brotherhood, etc etc.

Brother - too much butthurt.

Take a plane sometime and visit Bangladesh to dispel all your hate.

End of story.

Turkey nahi mila aapko?

Too much tension at Thanksgiving.

 

[American Pakistani]

Brother - too much butthurt.

Take a plane sometime and visit Bangladesh to dispel all your hate.

End of story.

Turkey nahi mila aapko?

Too much tension at Thanksgiving.

Janab, hate k liye kuch reason tou hona chahiya. What will be ANY reason for my hate towards Bangladesh? Hardly any Pakistani follows what goes on in your land. Honestly speaking (no offense to anyone), Bangladesh is as irrelevant to Pakistan as Angola or Cambodia. Hardly you will find any Pakistani commenting on Bangladeshi section, unless of course you post title that in some way relates to Pakistan. Come to Pakistan and check for yourself, hardly you will find anyone discussing Bangladesh.

 

[Bilal9]

Janab, hate k liye kuch reason tou hona chahiya. What will be ANY reason for my hate towards Bangladesh? Hardly any Pakistani follows what goes on in your land. Honestly speaking (no offense to anyone), Bangladesh is as irrelevant to Pakistan as Angola or Cambodia. Hardly you will find any Pakistani commenting on Bangladeshi section, unless of course you post title that in some way relates to Pakistan. Come to Pakistan and check for yourself, hardly you will find anyone discussing Bangladesh.

I beg to differ.

There are a group of my relatives in Pakistan who discuss Bangladesh every chance they get when they get to the US to stay with us.

Because of the opportunities in Bangladesh right now. Bangladesh is on an upward trajectory and very little can stop it right now.

It is sad that Pakistani intellectuals, professionals and technocrats have largely not considered Bangladesh as a destination to work (some have in the textile industry). Go talk to these people sometime and see what they say. Yes- in spite of politics. Work is work. If you can bring some skill to the table that's useful for us, we don't care even if you are Myanmarese.

And if Indians can come here and work, then why not Pakistanis? I'd rather have them here......