Pakistan concerned as Bangladesh hands six Jamaat leaders death penalty

[UKBengali]

All Balochistan states joined Pakistan by their choice in 1948. Tujh mein dam hai tou aa kar ukhar lay. Chittagong did not join Bangladesh by choice, they became part of Bangladesh because they were part of E Pakistan. Only refrendum in Chittgong.

There is no rebellion in Chittagong region and so no need to hold a referendum as it will be a waste of time. You realise that majority of people in Chittagong region are ethnic Bengali Muslims?

Balochistan? Irrelevant if they decided to join Pakistan by choice in 1948. Is Pakistan scared that they will vote to leave if a referendum was held now?

 

[Mage]

All Balochistan states joined Pakistan by their choice in 1948. Tujh mein dam hai tou aa kar ukhar lay. Chittagong did not join Bangladesh by choice, they became part of Bangladesh because they were part of E Pakistan. Only refrendum in Chittgong.

There isn't even a separatist movement in Chittagong. There was some movement like this in three districts of Chittagong long ago

All Balochistan states joined Pakistan by their choice in 1948. Tujh mein dam hai tou aa kar ukhar lay. Chittagong did not join Bangladesh by choice, they became part of Bangladesh because they were part of E Pakistan. Only refrendum in Chittgong.

Thick one, that was a secret deal when Pakistan was conducting operations in FATA and Waziristan. It saved tons of Pakistani military lives. Pakistan didn't have that tech. Pakistan provided intelligence and drones conducted strikes. Without Pakistan consensus, they won' be able to do this. On the other hand, nobody need your consensus.

You know Chittagong is the place where declaration of Bangladesh's independence took place. And it was the place where Pakistani army were kicked out from first. By mid May 1971, Chittagong was under total control of Mukti Bahini. Makes me so proud of my city. I'm totally in for a referendum in CTG but that would just be a waste of time, money etc. No one even asked for a referendum there.

On the second para, you can twist it as much as you want to suit it to your view. But facts remain facts. And the fact is your country willingly let another country to conduct airstrikes in your own territory.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Sure. You have a referendum in Baluchistan and we have one in CTG. Lets see where the map changes.

Your country agrees to ley other country bomb you and you talk about BD's sovereignty? Nice. Very nice.


Nope. Not in per capita nominal. That tok while having 60% of GDP as debts. You are behind in per capita, behind in HDI and yet consider Pakistan heaven compared to BD? I can't understand your logic. Although if Pakistanis had logic then they'd be in a much better position than they are now.

Nice try though.

Pakistan is ahead in nominal GDP and GDP PPP.

Bangladesh may be ahead in GDP per capita, but not by much. Nothing to be proud of.

 

[American Pakistani]

There is no rebellion in Chittagong region and so no need to hold a referendum as it will be a waste of time. You realise that majority of people in Chittagong region are ethnic Bengali Muslims?

Balochistan? Irrelevant if they decided to join Pakistan by choice in 1948. Is Pakistan scared that they will vote to leave if a referendum was held now?

There was an armed conflict between Chittagong people and Bangladesh, bangladesh deployed thousands of troops and people of Chittagong were raped and massacred. The armed conflict was there for about 20 years. Most people over there are indigineous tribes, Hill (Pahari) people. The only reason Chittagong was dragged here was because your bangali brethren dragged Balochistan, instead of staying ON TOPIC. That's what you and many Indians are good at i.e dragging off topics and settled regions.

There is no demand of refrendum in Balochistan, just demands of more autonomy. Unless you are supporter of terrorist organization supported by India, such as BLA. Only BLA terrorists are demanding refrendum and independence, why would Pakistan bow to terrorists?

 

[MultaniGuy]

What the heck is a

??

Us having a per capita GDP better than yours makes our economy worse?

Okay....

Nice try you conveniently ignored nominal GDP and GDP PPP which Pakistan has is better than Bangladesh's.

Don't compare a small country like Bangladesh to a much larger country like Pakistan's.

You are just embarrassing yourself.

 

[American Pakistani]

There isn't even a separatist movement in Chittagong. There was some movement like this in three districts of Chittagong long ago
You know Chittagong is the place where declaration of Bangladesh's independence took place. And it was the place where Pakistani army were kicked out from first. By mid May 1971, Chittagong was under total control of Mukti Bahini. Makes me so proud of my city. I'm totally in for a referendum in CTG but that would just be a waste of time, money etc. No one even asked for a referendum there.

On the second para, you can twist it as much as you want to suit it to your view. But facts remain facts. And the fact is your country willingly let another country to conduct airstrikes in your own territory.

Chittagong's Pahari indigenous tribes collaborated with Pakistan army which is why they were massacred by bangali after terrorism movement of bdsh ended. NOT saying they loved Pakistan, they were mostly happy to be part of India.

Yes, Willingly not unwillingly, and that also to a technological Super Power to kill Pakistan's enemies, unlike Bangladesh, where any third world country can strike at will, such as India or Myanmaar.

 

[Mage]

Nice try though.

Pakistan is ahead in nominal GDP and GDP PPP.

Bangladesh may be ahead in GDP per capita, but not by much. Nothing to be proud of.

Pakistan had more people. Thus higher GDP. But per capita wise BD had overtaken Pak in nominal terms. Taht to considering that 60% of Pakistan's GDP is debt.

Pakistanis also lives shorter than Bangladeshis. Pakistan is also much more unsafe compared to BD. Literacy rate is Pakistan lower than BD. Pakistan export much less than BD. Foreign reserves is lower than BD's. Trade deficit is much higher in Pakistan. Its like half of your national budget lol. So very powerful. I'm awed.

Chittagong's Pahari indigenous tribes collaborated with Pakistan army which is why they were massacred by bangali after terrorism movement of bdsh ended. NOT saying they loved Pakistan, they were mostly happy to be part of India.

Talking about fictions, you know there is a thread about some ancient Indian guys inventing newton's law before Newton.

Yes, Willingly not unwillingly, and that also to a technological Super Power to kill Pakistan's enemies, unlike Bangladesh, where any third world country can strike at will, such as India or Myanmaar.

About this blah blah blah.....talk about it after they actually strike in BD.

 

[American Pakistani]

Pakistan had more people. Thus higher GDP. But per capita wise BD had overtaken Pak in nominal terms. Taht to considering that 60% of Pakistan's GDP is debt.

Pakistanis also lives shorter than Bangladeshis. Pakistan is also much more unsafe compared to BD. Literacy rate is Pakistan lower than BD. Pakistan export much less than BD. Foreign reserves is lower than BD's. Trade deficit is much higher in Pakistan. Its like half of your national budget lol. So very powerful. I'm awed.

Nobody in Pakistan claim it is "powerful" or "Supa pawa" or "developed European style", etc. These are your own nonsense.

Pakistan is currently fighting a major war(almost like a world war) and compared to other 50 countries fighting, Pakistan has achieved surprising results. Lands once known as no-go zones are considered very safe. Terrorism has dropped 100 folds. On top of that Pakistan have an enemy such as India who pressure Pakistan on eastern borders. I wonder if Bangladesh would be still alive if it faced such situation. Soviets being so powerful couldn't handled and scattered into dozen countries.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Pakistan had more people. Thus higher GDP. But per capita wise BD had overtaken Pak in nominal terms. Taht to considering that 60% of Pakistan's GDP is debt.

Pakistanis also lives shorter than Bangladeshis. Pakistan is also much more unsafe compared to BD. Literacy rate is Pakistan lower than BD. Pakistan export much less than BD. Foreign reserves is lower than BD's. Trade deficit is much higher in Pakistan. Its like half of your national budget lol. So very powerful. I'm awed.
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Talking about fictions, you know there is a thread about some ancient Indian guys inventing newton's law before Newton.


About this blah blah blah.....talk about it after they actually strike in BD.

Don't bullshit here. Pakistan has a higher nominal GDP because of better manufacturing and better services. Don't give me this higher population trash.

The higher population argument may work for GDP per capita being less.

How is Pakistan much more unsafer than Bangladesh?

Pakistan has a much higher nominal GDP than Bangladesh. You can't beat that! LOL

LOL just don't go to wikipedia, wikipedia can be modified by any buffoon.

Pakistan has much less poverty than Bangladesh.

So go do your chest thumping somewhere else. lol.

 

[American Pakistani]

Talking about fictions, you know there is a thread about some ancient Indian guys inventing newton's law before Newton.


About this blah blah blah.....talk about it after they actually strike in BD.

Fictions? Do you want me to spoon feed you? Do you know google? Search for what I posted, I understand you are kept in dark for so long, but it's nev er too late. Chittagong's pahari tribals fought Bangladesh for almost 20 years. You give them refrendum today and most likely they will join India. They neither wanted to be part of Pakistan in 47, nor in 71 they wanted to leave Pakistan for Bangladesh.

Bangladesh has protested repeated violation of its airspace by Myanmar drones and helicopter, the foreign ministry says amid the exodus of Rohingya refugees fleeing violence in Rakhine State.

https://m.bdnews24.com/en/detail/bangladesh/1395100

Do I need to say anything about India?

They openly come and go at their "will".

 

[UKBengali]

Nice try you conveniently ignored nominal GDP and GDP PPP which Pakistan has is better than Bangladesh's.

Don't compare a small country like Bangladesh to a much larger country like Pakistan's.

You are just embarrassing yourself.

Why should it matter that Pakistan has higher total GDP than BD? It has 50 million more people than BD.
It is a bit like saying that Turkish people are wealthier than Austrians as it's total GDP is higher

You have a point on GDP/capita at PPP but remember that BD GDP/capita is growing twice as fast as Pakistan currently.

There was an armed conflict between Chittagong people and Bangladesh, bangladesh deployed thousands of troops and people of Chittagong were raped and massacred. The armed conflict was there for about 20 years. Most people over there are indigineous tribes, Hill (Pahari) people. The only reason Chittagong was dragged here was because your bangali brethren dragged Balochistan, instead of staying ON TOPIC. That's what you and many Indians are good at i.e dragging off topics and settled regions.

There is no demand of refrendum in Balochistan, just demands of more autonomy. Unless you are supporter of terrorist organization supported by India, such as BLA. Only BLA terrorists are demanding refrendum and independence, why would Pakistan bow to terrorists?

1. Chittagong Hill Tracts tribes are not native to the soil. They were refugees escaping the massacres when Barmans took over Arakan a couple of centuries ago. They have no right to demand independence and they have signed a peace agreement with BD anyway.

2. There is an insurgency in Balochistan currently. I am not supporting BLA here but if Pakistan is so confident then please hold a referendum to prove that the majority of the residents want to stay part of Pakistan.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Why should it matter that Pakistan has higher total GDP that BD? It has 50 million more people than BD.
It is a bit like saying that Turkish people are wealthier than Austrians as it's total GDP is higher

You have a point on GDP/capita, at PPP but remember that BD GDP/capita is growing twice as fast as Pakistan currently.

When CPEC comes into fruition, Pakistan's economy will be growing much faster than Bangladesh's!

Bring it on!

 

[Mage]

Nobody in Pakistan claim it is "powerful" or "Supa pawa" or "developed European style", etc. These are your own nonsense.

Pakistan is currently fighting a major war(almost like a world war) and compared to other 50 countries fighting, Pakistan has achieved surprising results. Lands once known as no-go zones are considered very safe. Terrorism has dropped 100 folds. On top of that Pakistan have an enemy such as India who pressure Pakistan on eastern borders. I wonder if Bangladesh would be still alive if it faced such situation. Soviets being so powerful couldn't handled and scattered into dozen countries.

But this Iqbal Ali guy claims BD is very backward compared to Pakistan. You have your problems. We have ours. You can blame Afghan and India but they are your enemies because of your policies. Similarly Americans can conduct air strikes because of your policies. And you guys need to understand that.

"Every suffering in this world in born from individual incompetence." This is a quote from an anime "Tokyo Ghoul". Which I find very true for our cases. Others do what they do to you because you are that way. You need to understand this. Blaming others for your problems only harms you and makes you stuck, or worse takes you backwards. Blaming Mukti Bahini and Mujib for 1971 only hides your mismanagements. Having India as enemy is your foreign policy failure. You have to fight a war like a world war because of your policies. You need to understand this. In this thread it is you guys showing concern about our internal matter. Calling BD backwards and having the impression that BD is much behind you is what your rulers want to create to hide their failure in 1971. In the end BD remains what it is. And all you get is some false satisfaction. BD is similar. Hasina tries to turn attention to somewhere else by saying something about Pakistan when she is in a pinch. We go to pre 1971 and try to show it as an excuse of why we haven't been able to better. And that's bot the way either . You'll never see me blaming Pakistan for BD's misfortune. Because the fault I see is on BD. For not being able to get their fair share of development before 1971. And its also our fault that BD's progress was almost non existent in its first 20 years. You have to see the reality and take responsibility. Feeling some false sense of security by thinking someone is worse than you doesn't help to improve you.

 

[UKBengali]

When CPEC comes into fruition, Pakistan's economy will be growing much faster than Bangladesh's!

Bring it on!

I really wish Pakistan well with CPEC.

Currently Pakistan GDP/capita growth is at 3.5%, remember to take off 2% from GDP growth to take into account population growth, is trailing BD which is at 6% GDP/capita growth. I am sure that this will increase as CPEC kicks in and so aiming to try to match what BD is at currently at would be a good target for Pakistan.

BD is trying to increase it's GDP/capita growth and is hoping that the huge infrastructure projects currently being built will allow it to increase this a little to 7-8%.

 

[Mage]

Fictions? Do you want me to spoon feed you? Do you know google? Search for what I posted, I understand you are kept in dark for so long, but it's nev er too late. Chittagong's pahari tribals fought Bangladesh for almost 20 years. You give them refrendum today and most likely they will join India. They neither wanted to be part of Pakistan in 47, nor in 71 they wanted to leave Pakistan for Bangladesh.


https://m.bdnews24.com/en/detail/bangladesh/1395100

Do I need to say anything about India?

They openly come and go at their "will".

So how many shots Myanmar fired inside BD? Zero. We gave them warnings. We couldn't just shoot them down for simply airspace violation. That would make us look bad and more importantly it would drag us into unnecessary conflict.

About India...BSF exists to protect their borders. They mostly kill smugglers. One killing got some press attention years ago. And there the victim was going/returning from India to BD. When BSF tried something adventurous in 2001 they were put to their place. Google India-Bangladesh border conflict of 2001. Overall you'll see more Indian army personnel died compared to BD army personnel in India-BD borders from violent incidents.