Pakistan Charges Hafiz Saeed With Terror Financing

[SIPRA]

Do you listen to the UN?

Yes. They listen, but very selectively, where it suits them.

 

[Solomon2]

BTW, he is my respected teacher, of Islamic studies, in Engineering University, Lahore, back in 70s.

Thirty years between his instruction to you and the 2008 Mumbai attacks. You don't think a man can change in that time?

 

[SIPRA]

You don't have confidence that the gov't wouldn't have booked a case against H.S. if it didn't feel it had the evidence to convict him? Or is your question, "Even if the gov't does have such evidence, why should H.S. be convicted at all?"

Your post is quite complex and I don't fully gather it. But, in my post, I have given my assessment that nothing much would come out of these cases. You have all the right to disagree with me.

Thirty years between his instruction to you and the 2008 Mumbai attacks. You don't think a man can change in that time?

Of course, many people change a lot with time. This is a common human experience.

As for Mambai Attacks, this, by any measure, is a grossly insignificant incidence, particularly, in our part of the world; if you care to read the history of Asia, for the last about 100 years, where tens of millions of innocent people have lost their lives and belongings, because of religious or political reasons.

 

[Yaseen1]

Bad decision by ik govt .He is damaging kashmir cause everyday for dollars and has no respect .He should learn from iran .ik is not difference from previous govt and has a slave mentality .I wish new coas adopts firm stance and agressive policy towards india like Raheel Shareef did and force govt to adopt strong stance against indian support of terrorism in Pakistan and their brutality against innocent kashmiris.coas bajwa is turning in another gen kyani for us

 

[MilSpec]

Interesting move by Pakistan.

 

[Rank]

Victims of just nariman house of 26/11 terror attacks by Hafiz Saeed.

Name Age Nationality
Rabbi Gavriel Holtzberg 29 Brooklyn, United States (and dual Israeli citizenship)
Rebbetzin Rivka Holtzberg 28 Afula, Israel
Bentzion Kruman 26 Bat Yam, Israel (and dual US citizenship)
Rabbi Leibish Teitelbaum 37 Brooklyn, United States
Yoheved Orpaz 62 Givatayim, Israel
Norma Shvarzblat Rabinovich 50

Mexico

So based on someone killed inside your country and the guy allegedly with no concrete evidence labelled global terrorist amazing... that's the failure of your country's security LEA's who are responsible of foreign life including yours...... just go and read the definition with explanation of global terrorist if you don't understand simple word "Global Terrorist"

- Operate on foreign soils or from multiple countries
- Conduct operations from different countries and into different countries (killed people in different part of the world)...

where as HS non qualify as per your description.

 

[Vortex]

He has been booked, then in court nothing will be proved and he will be free.

 

[lightoftruth]

So based on someone killed inside your country and the guy allegedly with no concrete evidence labelled global terrorist amazing... that's the failure of your country's security LEA's who are responsible of foreign life including yours...... just go and read the definition with explanation of global terrorist if you don't understand simple word "Global Terrorist"

- Operate on foreign soils or from multiple countries
- Conduct operations from different countries and into different countries (killed people in different part of the world)...

where as HS non qualify as per your description.

Read "Just" again ,between here it is as per your definition.

The Markaz campus at Muridke in Lahore, its headquarters, was used as a hide-out for both Ramzi Yousef, involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, and Mir Aimal Kansi, convicted and executed for the January 1993 killing of two Central Intelligence Agency officers outside the agency's headquarters in Langley, Virginia.[135] A group of men dubbed the Virginia Jihad Network attended LeT training camps and were convicted in 2006 of conspiring to provide material support to the LeT.[136] The leader of the group, Ali al-Timimi, urged the men to attend the LeT camps and to "go abroad to join the mujahideen engaged in jihad in Afghanistan." The men also trained with weapons in Virginia.[137]Two U.S. citizens, Syed Haris Ahmed and Ehsanul Sadequee were arrested in 2006 for attempting to join LeT. Ahmed traveled to Pakistan in July 2005 to attend a terrorist training camp and join LeT. The men also shot videos of U.S. landmarks in the Washington, D.C. area for potential terrorist attacks. They were convicted in Atlanta during the summer of 2009 for conspiring to provide material support to terrorists.[138] U.S. citizen Ahmad Abousamra was indicted in November 2009 for providing material support to terrorists. He allegedly went to Pakistan in 2002 to join the Taliban and LeT, but failed.[139] The F.B.I. issued a $50,000 reward for his capture on 3 October 2012

Between LET had close links with Al-Qaeda as well, google where they have attacked.

 

[Rank]

Read "Just" again ,between here it is as per your definition.



Between LET had close links with Al-Qaeda as well, google where they have attacked.

oh comeon lame excuses... Al-Qaida targetted US (foreign soil) + operating from many countries. They did similar kind of activities "In many countries not only in US". What is that "links" excuse to make ABCD global terrorist? is that your definition?

 

[Smoke]

Why haven't you guys realized something?

This deal was probably to black list BLA in exchange for giving up Hafiz Saeed!

 

[Clutch]

Why is Pakistan throwing away its bargaining chips without getting anything in return?

FATF

 

[Jackdaws]

Victims of just nariman house of 26/11 terror attacks by Hafiz Saeed.

Name Age Nationality
Rabbi Gavriel Holtzberg 29 Brooklyn, United States (and dual Israeli citizenship)
Rebbetzin Rivka Holtzberg 28 Afula, Israel
Bentzion Kruman 26 Bat Yam, Israel (and dual US citizenship)
Rabbi Leibish Teitelbaum 37 Brooklyn, United States
Yoheved Orpaz 62 Givatayim, Israel
Norma Shvarzblat Rabinovich 50

Mexico

Besides the 162 other victims. And some unborn kids.

 

[Adonis]

Good move. The guy has given us a bad name and rep.

Good Move?.... why so late?.... it was always a good move but dear establishment said no...now they themselves are facing the heat (constraints of funds) so started towing the line they were told to do long back (by US etc)....

Irony is say of civilian government doesn't matter . I remember NS during his last stint as PM, vouched to rein in these jihadis but was ignored...he voiced out his frustration in his interviews thereafter and Dawn leaks...

 

[khail007]

Wish list of Indian/USA nexus. Pakistan just trying to avoid FATF black listing. In the court of law these cases not going to prove anything against Hafiz Saeed Sahib. Same as Indian courts of law never able to prove anything against Hindu terrorists.
US is now negotiating with terrorist; yesterday's declared by UN to fulfill US wish.
May ALLAH SWT knows better, the time when same bitter pill to be swallowed by India in Kashmir/Afghanistan.

 

[Arulmozhi Varman]

He has been arrested before and he had come out with Pakistani investigators asking India for more evidence. I mean it was plotted in Pakistani soil and how are we supposed to investigate and prosecute people there?

This is just an 90 days arrest without charge till the day FATF convenes in October or till the day one court will deem it illegal (they work on evidences) and release him.