Pakistan caught between Iran and Saudi rivarly

[mehmeTcc]

nowadays united arab emirates and saudi purchasing weapons from israel so tell me the country purshasing weapons from isreal zonist how can be he is vs israel?

Just say one weapon system that Arabs purchased from Israel.

 

[Hashshāshīn]

US/Saudi want to split Balochistan from Pakistan because of 3 main reasons;

#1. Iran-Pakistan Pipeline. Pakistan borders Iran on it's Balochistan province, if Balochistan is split from Pakistan, the pipeline must be cancelled.
#2. The vast mineral resources in the mountains of Balochistan. There is so much gas, valuable metals in Balochistan that they have their eye on.
#3. A buffer against Pakistan and Iran. US will most definitely have CIA agents there to keep an eye on both Pakistan and Iran and maybe even China.

The west are too clever for our people to understand.

 

[RazPaK]

US/Saudi want to split Balochistan from Pakistan because of 3 main reasons;

#1. Iran-Pakistan Pipeline. Pakistan borders Iran on it's Balochistan province, if Balochistan is split from Pakistan, the pipeline must be cancelled.
#2. The vast mineral resources in the mountains of Balochistan. There is so much gas, valuable metals in Balochistan that they have their eye on.
#3. A buffer against Pakistan and Iran. US will most definitely have CIA agents there to keep an eye on both Pakistan and Iran and maybe even China.

The west are too clever for our people to understand.

We can not let the West take Sistan.

 

[Ajaxpaul]

Mate do you not understand. Sauds aim is just stay in power. However America's aim is to put a proxy India in our region. Get control of Iranians oil by changing regime etc. Defang Pakistan Army, Contain China all these matters are interrelated.

So opposing Saud/Zionist's is looking after Pakistan

Proxy of US, Russia or China...You can say anything. Proxy or not India is your enemy and Pak is ours. It will not change. Even if the whole world becomes your allies..Its still Pak vs India.

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

We do not support just by defending our interests it will be helping Iran and against Sauds

Ally of Iran did not kill our innocent martyrs.

State the difference b/w HELP and support ... does it involve money ? lol
Which one of Sauds have killed any Pakistani, besides we know the reality of Arabs but they are securing their interest by pulling Pakistan to their side and Same goes to Iran.
We will buy gas and energy from Iran and will also increase corporation with Arabs. But if they ask "hey I am at war join my team", it must be No Thanks. Making a Stand will lose any one side as we do not know consequences of war.
Look at India, an Almost Neutral country in past major conflict. Now she got good relations with major developed countries. They are too dealing Arabs & Iran in same situation.
LEAR SOMETHING.
Enough emotional stands it will destroy Pakistan to its end. Save Baluchistan, save your interest, be Neutral. We have nothing to loose now.
There should be no HELP, SUPPORT, STAND for any one of both in case of war, because its their war not ours.
Look that what Musharaf did under pressure, WOT was not our war but now it has almost destroyed Pakistan.

 

[Shardul.....the lion]

If I may say, Pakistan should do what is best for Pakistan and its 170 million people, rest does not matter much.

 

[Rana4pak]

these saudi really annoying me man what the Fu+k is this we do what ever is good for us even house of saud cannot allow iman khaba to speak against amercian they given them written script at the end of each hajj. and our fellow iran ppl plz done help our enemy(india) u r not less than these arab we need to keep balance between them

 

[saiyan0321]

ok i got a great idea how about we keep relations with both good pk i mean look at iran its keeping up relations with india and pakistan lets not take sides in this and say hey we r friends with both and iran should in a way get priority bcz its our neighbor we r in one of the most hostile neighborhood in the world lets have more friends in the area. and at the same time keep good with saudi,s. i dont care if they in with zionists as long as they dont hurt us and keep working with us they can make love to israel for all i care

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

To maintain the nentral stance will be the best option.

 

[lem34]

Just say one weapon system that Arabs purchased from Israel.

You are correct the weapons have not been purchased from Israel. But AIPAC did have influence on American arms sales that Obama was compelled to assure Israelis that any arm sales to Arab countries would ensure that Israel would always be upgraded to have better and more lethal weapons.

I think the point being made inaccurately imp is that Israel does have a say in weapon purchases by Arab countries from America. Without Israel agreement the Arabs would not get these weapons

Proxy of US, Russia or China...You can say anything. Proxy or not India is your enemy and Pak is ours. It will not change. Even if the whole world becomes your allies..Its still Pak vs India.

Off topic go back to sleep Indian

State the difference b/w HELP and support ... does it involve money ? lol
Which one of Sauds have killed any Pakistani, besides we know the reality of Arabs but they are securing their interest by pulling Pakistan to their side and Same goes to Iran.
We will buy gas and energy from Iran and will also increase corporation with Arabs. But if they ask "hey I am at war join my team", it must be No Thanks. Making a Stand will lose any one side as we do not know consequences of war.
Look at India, an Almost Neutral country in past major conflict. Now she got good relations with major developed countries. They are too dealing Arabs & Iran in same situation.
LEAR SOMETHING.
Enough emotional stands it will destroy Pakistan to its end. Save Baluchistan, save your interest, be Neutral. We have nothing to loose now.
There should be no HELP, SUPPORT, STAND for any one of both in case of war, because its their war not ours.
Look that what Musharaf did under pressure, WOT was not our war but now it has almost destroyed Pakistan.

You fail to see or appreciate the geo strategic location and to take into account China etc. How can we be neutral when we are a target of Saudi allies?? I am not saying help Iran. I am saying save Pakistan

Ok are some of you really that dim. Forget Arabs and Iranians. We need to look after Pakistan end of. It just happens that Pakistan's enemy is Iran's enemy and a friend of Sauds. Also America wants to contain our closest ally China. We simply will never choose Americans over Chinese.

Is that too difficult to comprehend??

 

[Hyde]

Only way forward for Pakistan is to maintain Neutral relationships with both Iran and Saudi Arabia and also the third ally United States of America. We should not ally with one nation and totally oppose another. We cannot afford to do that as we are not economically strong enough to dictate terms anywhere in the world.

Neutral policy and totally abstaining interference from Iranian-Saudi conflict is the way to go. Let them fight if they want, let them make a peace deal if they want... be ally with both nations and strengthen bilateral relationships between both nations in all sectors. Lets not be a sandwich between two arch-rivals and draft a strong foreign policy to pursue our own interest only

 

[somebozo]

Pakistan needs to act mature and neutral just like the Arabs and Iranians are neutral in our dispute of Kashmir

End if the day Iran is a cultural and regional rival to Arabs while Iran is a neighbor and important source of energy and trade for Pakistan..

Pakistan occupying five major strategic routes of trade and commerce is always at a risky situation.

We need to forge close ties with China, Turkey, Russia, CIS & Afghanistan.

Maintain neutrality with Iran, Arabs, Israel and America.

 

[lem34]

Only way forward for Pakistan is to maintain Neutral relationships with both Iran and Saudi Arabia and also the third ally United States of America. We should not ally with one nation and totally oppose another. We cannot afford to do that as we are not economically strong enough to dictate terms anywhere in the world.

Neutral policy and totally abstaining interference from Iranian-Saudi conflict is the way to go. Let them fight if they want, let them make a peace deal if they want... be ally with both nations and strengthen bilateral relationships between both nations in all sectors. Lets not be a sandwich between two arch-rivals and draft a strong foreign policy to pursue our own interest only

Ok let me put to you bluntly frakk Arabs and Iranian. We are under siege by Americans. How do you propose we respond to the murder of our soldiers. Has the American president applologised???

They say you can take a horse to water but not force it to drink. Some of you have been on pdf much longer than I have. Do you not know what American price is for their benevolence??

1. A base for America in Afghanistan to monitor Russia China Iran and Pakistan.

2. TAPI-so their corporations can skim money for themselves.

3. Neutralise Pakistani Army and defang us of nukes-at best a para military police force.

4. Steal and skim from resources in Balochistan

5. Contain China by making India America's proxy in our neighbourhood and contain China

That is why I am confident that no Pakistani establishment even with traitors like Zardari can swallow losing our nukes allowing India to lord over us and be used against China.

Now that we have established that Pakistan can never be complicit with US on these matters. We have to remember the saying that a enemies friend is an enemy. An enemies enemy is a friend.

You guys are living in cloud cuckoo land if you think Pakistan can choose its friends under these circumstances.

You can not swim against the tide and would be foolish to attempt to do so.

 

[Hyde]

Ok let me put to you bluntly frakk Arabs and Iranian. We are under siege by Americans. How do you propose we respond to the murder of our soldiers. Has the American president applologised???

They say you can take a horse to water but not force it to drink. Some of you have been on pdf much longer than I have. Do you not know what American price is for their benevolence??

1. A base for America in Afghanistan to monitor Russia China Iran and Pakistan.

2. TAPI-so their corporations can skim money for themselves.

3. Neutralise Pakistani Army and defang us of nukes-at best a para military police force.

4. Steal and skim from resources in Balochistan

5. Contain China by making India America's proxy in our neighbourhood and contain China

That is why I am confident that no Pakistani establishment even with traitors like Zardari can swallow losing our nukes allowing India to lord over us and be used against China.

Now that we have established that Pakistan can never be complicit with US on these matters. We have to remember the saying that a enemies friend is an enemy. An enemies enemy is a friend.

You guys are living in cloud cuckoo land if you think Pakistan can choose its friends under these circumstances.

You can not swim against the tide and would be foolish to attempt to do so.

Well your post is partially off-topic I guess?

All I am saying is to introduce a strong foreign policy like your arch-rival India. There is no harm in learning from your enemies too

In diplomacy, Friend's enemy is not necessarily an enemy of yours. That is what we call Politics

 

[Abii]

iran has for long time supported northern alliance against pashtun talibans, secondly, saudi arabia provided us petrol during the war with funding, also the iranian regime which helped pakistan was shah of iran regime, after iranian khomaini revolution the things have changed since then

Are you serious? Wait, and that was a bad thing? You're saying that supporting the NA against THE TALIBAN is a bad thing?

lmao

now I understand why you like the saudis.

We have another wahabi here.