well to be honest, those who should have suffered were the racist europeans......not Palestinian Arabs who are indigenous to the lands that were taken away from them -
You don't think the Turks were just as racist? Why do you think the Arabs rebelled from Ottoman rule?
What argument can be made before 1947 that Arabs' land was "taken away" rather than purchased? The state lands of the Ottomans became the state lands of the Mandate after WWI and Jews were free to settle there. Finally, after 1947 yes many Arabs chose to depart and a much smaller number compelled to depart. The Arabs who wished to (about 20%) were allowed to return and regain their civil and property rights upon swearing an oath of loyalty to the Jewish State and renouncing violence - the "Palestinian refugees" of today are descendants of those who refused in the name of Arab supremacy, something that neither the League of Nations nor the Caliph ever granted.
(Consider that many more Jews were expelled from Arab countries and thrown into Israel - the 500,000 Jews of Israel being compelled to absorb 800,000 refugees in only a few years, and Arab countries who also denied Israel the benefits of trade. In the first few years starvation was a real possibility. I don't see Arabs falling all over each other apologizing for such conduct, do you?)
''Jews'' are not a nationality or race ---
How would you like it if I told you what it means to be a Pakistani? I refuse to let others define who I am when they cannot cite hard facts to back them up, only opinions. And I still think that when the poster writes "Jews" it is really Pakistanis who are in the back of his mind - the situation fits much better, yes?
and to deny Palestine?
Until the 1960s when people spoke of "Palestinians" they always meant the Jews of Israel. Was there ever an Arab state called Palestine? No, there was not before 1947, and afterward Egypt and Jordan occupied territory the U.N. intended for a second partitioned Arab state to be created out of the original British Mandate.
I suppose the inhabitants of Gaza and the West Bank could broadly be classed as Arab nationalists from 1947 to roughly 1980. I'm not sure how genuine their "nationalism" really is today; there is no way to tell as they live under the the thumb of terrorists. Yet we know these same terrorists make few bones about wanting to eliminate Israel and eliminate any Jewish inhabitants from Palestine - and many Pakistanis here are all too enthusiastic about seeing the end of Israel, preferably through violent means.
The current Zionist approach is yes to Palestine
and Israel. But no to Palestine
instead of Israel. This is something the Palestinian Arabs are not yet ready to give up.
but what if one makes the case that anti-zionism is not anti-semitism....anti-bombing-little-kids-and-displacing-families-out-of-their-homes-and-farmlands is not ''terrorism'' or ''pushing Jews to the sea''
Is it about anti-bombing-little kids? Why not blame Hamas for using civilians as screens?
Or try this experiment with an anti-Israel friend: suppose there was a magic button he could push and all the property claims and "war crimes" the Arabs of Palestine suffer at Israeli hands be made right and the Arabs desire to kill Jews eliminated. Would he push it if that meant Israel would still exist afterward?
You don't want to kill all the Jews you only want to kill
half? That's still anti-Semitism.
as for the religion itself -- well Judaism and Islam are cousin religions.
A.Z., Muslims can't claim spiritual credit for the good deeds of others.