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I forgot to mention Dr. Rohan Gunanaratna who is an expert on Al-Qaeda and wrote a chapter in the first edition.
Pakistan-Bangladesh plan a Mughalistan to split India?
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I forgot to mention Dr. Rohan Gunanaratna who is an expert on Al-Qaeda and wrote a chapter in the first edition.
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How much PARANOID Indians are we can see . This news is from Indian newswire. If anyone wants to see TRUE Yellow Journalism please feel free to read Indian Media.
ISI plans 'Islamic Republic of Pakistan' by 2020 in India
New Delhi, Jan.6 : Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) apparently has plans to destabilize India by influencing developmentsin the north and west of the country, particularly in Mumbai, as part of its multi-pronged strategy.
Terrorists arrested in Jammu have made these revelations.
According to an article published in the latest issue of the Power Politics magazine, the ISI has circulated two maps to the Pakistan Army to boost troop morale by giving them a target to destabilize India by 2020.
One of the maps targets North India, and projects a desire to convert that region into 'Islamic Republic of Pakistan' by 2020. It mentions South India as disputed territory and treats Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Nepal as its neighbouring countries.
The other map indicates a drastic change of Mumbai's topography, turning the metropolis into 'Muslimabad' by 2012.
The magazine carries the photographs of Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) activist Ghulam Fareed, identified as Pakistani soldier, (Belt No 4319184, 10 Azad Kashmir Regiment) from Ruperi village in Azad Kashmir's (***'s) Bhimber district and the other two--Mohammad Abdullah from North-West Frontier Province (NWFP) and Mohammad Imran from Dera Nawab in Pakistan's Punjab--belonged to Harkat-ul-Jehad (HuD) terrorists group. They travelled from Karachi to Dhaka to enter India from Kolkata and they landed at Jammu from there.
The write up further states that according to the plan, ISI has been attempting to place India under seige both from the sea and land routes simultaneously.
Pakistan has moved its army to forward areas in Lahore strengthening international border and LOC with India to protect its vital installations.
The article, written by a Kashmir expert, carries both maps to substantiate the revelations.
--- ANI
ISI plans 'Islamic Republic of Pakistan' by 2020 in India .:. NewKerala - India 's Top Online Newspaper
PEHLE BACHAO PAKISTAN, PHIR BANANA MUGHALISTAN.
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I don't think Mr. Munshi loosing sleep over some Indians Criticism here in this forum. It doesn't evan matter if Indians question his credibility in the international merit. The fact of the matter is he succesfully exposed Indian evil mentallity and it's hegemonic plan for the SA region. Why sould he care cares what indian think? We appreciate his book and Work. 
Another proof of Paranoid Indians. Mughlistan and rumours like setting up Islamic state in India are being spread by Indian yallow media not Pakistan.
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Guys , Why is that Sid always seems on obstinate mission to derail threads Of Mr Munshi . We are in 8th page of thread and instead of objectively discussing the topic we have spent last six pages in discussing Mr Sids 150 year old Brahman roots and his Indian muslimness . Mr Munshi is one of the most intelligent posters here and instead of objectively answering him all the indian members go on attacking him ad hominem. The people accusing Mr munshi of yellow journalism must see the video prvided in article . The video has former heads of police , BJP Parlimentarian , VHP leader and some more indian intelectuals . It also talks about report of former J&k governer (RAW GUY).Thus there is large cross section of Indian public opinion muolders and strategic decision makers . So we can say there is serious thought in report and if someone posts that report to show PARANOID nature of Indians our Indian members start attcking him ad hominem and try to derail the thread .
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Nothing funny about it. That's the kind of tall-tales and dreams they use to motivate these terrorists to kill.
How much PARANOID Indians are we can see . This news is from Indian newswire. If anyone wants to see TRUE Yellow Journalism please feel free to read Indian Media.
ISI plans 'Islamic Republic of Pakistan' by 2020 in India
New Delhi, Jan.6 : Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) apparently has plans to destabilize India by influencing developmentsin the north and west of the country, particularly in Mumbai, as part of its multi-pronged strategy.
Terrorists arrested in Jammu have made these revelations.
According to an article published in the latest issue of the Power Politics magazine, the ISI has circulated two maps to the Pakistan Army to boost troop morale by giving them a target to destabilize India by 2020.
One of the maps targets North India, and projects a desire to convert that region into 'Islamic Republic of Pakistan' by 2020. It mentions South India as disputed territory and treats Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Nepal as its neighbouring countries.
The other map indicates a drastic change of Mumbai's topography, turning the metropolis into 'Muslimabad' by 2012.
The magazine carries the photographs of Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) activist Ghulam Fareed, identified as Pakistani soldier, (Belt No 4319184, 10 Azad Kashmir Regiment) from Ruperi village in Azad Kashmir's (***'s) Bhimber district and the other two--Mohammad Abdullah from North-West Frontier Province (NWFP) and Mohammad Imran from Dera Nawab in Pakistan's Punjab--belonged to Harkat-ul-Jehad (HuD) terrorists group. They travelled from Karachi to Dhaka to enter India from Kolkata and they landed at Jammu from there.
The write up further states that according to the plan, ISI has been attempting to place India under seige both from the sea and land routes simultaneously.
Pakistan has moved its army to forward areas in Lahore strengthening international border and LOC with India to protect its vital installations.
The article, written by a Kashmir expert, carries both maps to substantiate the revelations.
--- ANI
ISI plans 'Islamic Republic of Pakistan' by 2020 in India .:. NewKerala - India 's Top Online Newspaper
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More Indian paranoia -
China: Rising Pitch for a War with India to Recover Arunachal Pradesh.
By D.S.Rajan
It may be recalled that some influential strategists in the Peoples Republic of China (PRC) visualized a partial war with India to recover Southern Tibet (The PRCs name for Indias Arunachal Pradesh) (Reference South Asia Analysis Group paper No.2939 dated 24 November 2008,
China: Strategic Experts Talk About a Partial Sino - Indian War.
Quite a few comments supporting such views have since appeared and been carried in authoritative strategic portals.
The latest to join the camp of protagonists of a war with India to recover Southern Tibet, is an analyst, who appears to be a high level cadre dealing with the subject, perhaps with a military background. The writers article, though hawkish in content, is in-depth, spread over four parts; official blessings to it look obvious as a prominent strategic think tank in the country has chosen the same for publication (Online edition of the Well-connected China International Institute for Strategic Studies, Chinese language, 11 January 2009, under the column China Strategy, ÖÐÓ¡ÔÙÕ½ ʤÊý¼¸ºÎ´ò£¡ ÖйúÕ½ÂÔ_Öйú¹ú¼ÊÕ½ÂÔÑо¿Íø).
The article, described as a follow-up to a question raised recently by some experts in China as to whether or not China should show its determination to recover Southern Tibet, declares that the return of Indian troops into Southern Tibet after two years of Chinese withdrawal to the north of illegal McMahon line in 1962 and Indias settlement of a large migrant population in that territory for the purpose of rationalizing its occupation, seriously damaged Chinas interests, flagrantly creating greatest obstacle to building trust between the two nations.
The write-up then lays stress on the following four points:
* Looking from the viewpoints of history, law, national sentiment and custom and tradition, Southern Tibet (Zang Nan in Chinese) is a region, which is inhabited in a concentrated way by Chinas Tibetan nationality people. Border tensions like what was seen in 1987-89 and Indias stepping up of its war preparedness as in recent period, cannot lead to any wavering on Chinas part in its resolve to recover that region. The PRC has no reason to abandon its claim on Southern Tibet.
*Though China has had a long period of development resulting in increase in Comprehensive National Power, the attitudes of the Western world towards issues concerning Tibet and Southern Tibet can still affect it. India is courting the West and Russia and the strategic demand of all of them is to restrict and balance China. Japans Arc of Freedom and Democracy concept, is nothing but one aimed at containing China, joined by the West and India. The West including France and Germany intend to seize the last opportunity to exploit Dalai and they shamelessly supported the March 2008 Tibet unrest. Overall, judging from Western attitudes, it is clear that once a war happens, the West will once again come to the support of India forcefully. This pressure needs to be paid attention by China if it wants to fight against India.
* For reasons of nationality and Indias stubbornness, it would be difficult for China to avoid a war with India on the Southern Tibet issue. What can be said in certain is that China has completed its military preparations to solve that issue. Its economic strength, technological expertise, military power and logistics support capability, will help the country in completing a military attack on Southern Tibet. Also, as a point of certain significance, China has attained ability to deal with a possible nuclear conflict with India. The best for China would be its direct dismemberment of India and make the latter to spit what it has swallowed making Sikkim independent, rejuvenating Pakistan and restoring freedom of choice to Bhutan and Nepal.
* In principle, if vital interests of countries clash, there is no scope for a compromise among them and war is the only remedy. Russias action against Georgia in August 2008 is an example; Moscow could utilize that opportunity to stop the US-led NATO expansion in Europe. China must attend to the Southern Tibet issue in the same way. It should be done considering the overall strategic situation in Central Asia, the target for US infiltration and in the South Asian Sub-Continent. While, in this regard, Pakistan and Iran are specifically important for China, Myanmar also needs the PRCs attention as, if a war with India erupts, Indian troops may try to enter and attack Chinas Yunnan province. 14th Army of Chengdu MR should be stationed in Kunming, Yunnans capital. The position that 80% of Chinas strategic bomber force is in Lanzhou MR, may not be ideal. India cannot win a war with China in view of latters military preparedness and especially the superiority in armoured and rocket forces. It is estimated that once a war on the Southern Tibet issue starts, 80 percent of Indias deployed troops in northern part can become targets for the Chinese army. Beijing should grasp opportunities for attacking and hitting India to recover Southern Tibet. If India is clever, it should stop depending on the US support and sit for sincere talks with China.
The article is the worst instance seen so far of a Chinese war mongering vis-à-vis India. This hardest line on Arunachal Pradesh issue, being adopted at least by a section of Chinese strategists, ostensibly under an indirect government nod, contrasts with Beijings present official position that China and India are no threat to each other and that the boundary issue can be solved on the basis of mutual understanding and mutual accommodation and dialogue on equal terms. Special Representatives of China and India have held a series of talks to reach a framework agreement on the border based the bilateral agreement on political parameters and guiding principles.
The two sides have also in the meanwhile agreed that bilateral relations should not be held as a hostage to the border problem, which is complex and requires time, to solve. As other positive factors, bilateral trade is picking up, both sides have a signed a Vision document and a strategic partnership relation has been established between them. The article on the other hand creates a hostile atmosphere to Sino-Indian relations, giving rise to a key question- is China deliberately blowing hot and cold on the border issue?A probable explanation could be that there can be internal differences in China on the Arunachal Pradesh issue- strategic and national security establishments, which give priority to national sovereignty on one side and the diplomatic machinery which accords primacy to harmonious world and peaceful periphery concepts to suit to Chinas modernization requirements, on the other.
The top PRC leadership presumably is yet to reconcile the two different approaches. Admittedly, there is no convincing proof for this prognosis, but it would be in Indias interests to watch carefully for signs of such differences, with a scrutiny on how they will play out in future if they are found to exist. Another possibility is that pronouncements like what have been made in the article could be meant a Chinese pressure tactic against India for the purpose of extracting territorial concessions during future border negotiations, for e.g on the status of Tawang.
In any case, it would be strongly advisable for New Delhi to keep itself alive to the likelihood of China carrying out any military misadventure in the border, however illogical that may appear at this juncture. Considering the present India-Pakistan tensions, such an alert on the part of India becomes all the more necessary.
China: Rising Pitch for a War with India to Recover Arunachal Pradesh:
China: Rising Pitch for a War with India to Recover Arunachal Pradesh.
By D.S.Rajan
It may be recalled that some influential strategists in the Peoples Republic of China (PRC) visualized a partial war with India to recover Southern Tibet (The PRCs name for Indias Arunachal Pradesh) (Reference South Asia Analysis Group paper No.2939 dated 24 November 2008,
China: Strategic Experts Talk About a Partial Sino - Indian War.
Quite a few comments supporting such views have since appeared and been carried in authoritative strategic portals.
The latest to join the camp of protagonists of a war with India to recover Southern Tibet, is an analyst, who appears to be a high level cadre dealing with the subject, perhaps with a military background. The writers article, though hawkish in content, is in-depth, spread over four parts; official blessings to it look obvious as a prominent strategic think tank in the country has chosen the same for publication (Online edition of the Well-connected China International Institute for Strategic Studies, Chinese language, 11 January 2009, under the column China Strategy, ÖÐÓ¡ÔÙÕ½ ʤÊý¼¸ºÎ´ò£¡ ÖйúÕ½ÂÔ_Öйú¹ú¼ÊÕ½ÂÔÑо¿Íø).
The article, described as a follow-up to a question raised recently by some experts in China as to whether or not China should show its determination to recover Southern Tibet, declares that the return of Indian troops into Southern Tibet after two years of Chinese withdrawal to the north of illegal McMahon line in 1962 and Indias settlement of a large migrant population in that territory for the purpose of rationalizing its occupation, seriously damaged Chinas interests, flagrantly creating greatest obstacle to building trust between the two nations.
The write-up then lays stress on the following four points:
* Looking from the viewpoints of history, law, national sentiment and custom and tradition, Southern Tibet (Zang Nan in Chinese) is a region, which is inhabited in a concentrated way by Chinas Tibetan nationality people. Border tensions like what was seen in 1987-89 and Indias stepping up of its war preparedness as in recent period, cannot lead to any wavering on Chinas part in its resolve to recover that region. The PRC has no reason to abandon its claim on Southern Tibet.
*Though China has had a long period of development resulting in increase in Comprehensive National Power, the attitudes of the Western world towards issues concerning Tibet and Southern Tibet can still affect it. India is courting the West and Russia and the strategic demand of all of them is to restrict and balance China. Japans Arc of Freedom and Democracy concept, is nothing but one aimed at containing China, joined by the West and India. The West including France and Germany intend to seize the last opportunity to exploit Dalai and they shamelessly supported the March 2008 Tibet unrest. Overall, judging from Western attitudes, it is clear that once a war happens, the West will once again come to the support of India forcefully. This pressure needs to be paid attention by China if it wants to fight against India.
* For reasons of nationality and Indias stubbornness, it would be difficult for China to avoid a war with India on the Southern Tibet issue. What can be said in certain is that China has completed its military preparations to solve that issue. Its economic strength, technological expertise, military power and logistics support capability, will help the country in completing a military attack on Southern Tibet. Also, as a point of certain significance, China has attained ability to deal with a possible nuclear conflict with India. The best for China would be its direct dismemberment of India and make the latter to spit what it has swallowed making Sikkim independent, rejuvenating Pakistan and restoring freedom of choice to Bhutan and Nepal.
* In principle, if vital interests of countries clash, there is no scope for a compromise among them and war is the only remedy. Russias action against Georgia in August 2008 is an example; Moscow could utilize that opportunity to stop the US-led NATO expansion in Europe. China must attend to the Southern Tibet issue in the same way. It should be done considering the overall strategic situation in Central Asia, the target for US infiltration and in the South Asian Sub-Continent. While, in this regard, Pakistan and Iran are specifically important for China, Myanmar also needs the PRCs attention as, if a war with India erupts, Indian troops may try to enter and attack Chinas Yunnan province. 14th Army of Chengdu MR should be stationed in Kunming, Yunnans capital. The position that 80% of Chinas strategic bomber force is in Lanzhou MR, may not be ideal. India cannot win a war with China in view of latters military preparedness and especially the superiority in armoured and rocket forces. It is estimated that once a war on the Southern Tibet issue starts, 80 percent of Indias deployed troops in northern part can become targets for the Chinese army. Beijing should grasp opportunities for attacking and hitting India to recover Southern Tibet. If India is clever, it should stop depending on the US support and sit for sincere talks with China.
The article is the worst instance seen so far of a Chinese war mongering vis-à-vis India. This hardest line on Arunachal Pradesh issue, being adopted at least by a section of Chinese strategists, ostensibly under an indirect government nod, contrasts with Beijings present official position that China and India are no threat to each other and that the boundary issue can be solved on the basis of mutual understanding and mutual accommodation and dialogue on equal terms. Special Representatives of China and India have held a series of talks to reach a framework agreement on the border based the bilateral agreement on political parameters and guiding principles.
The two sides have also in the meanwhile agreed that bilateral relations should not be held as a hostage to the border problem, which is complex and requires time, to solve. As other positive factors, bilateral trade is picking up, both sides have a signed a Vision document and a strategic partnership relation has been established between them. The article on the other hand creates a hostile atmosphere to Sino-Indian relations, giving rise to a key question- is China deliberately blowing hot and cold on the border issue?A probable explanation could be that there can be internal differences in China on the Arunachal Pradesh issue- strategic and national security establishments, which give priority to national sovereignty on one side and the diplomatic machinery which accords primacy to harmonious world and peaceful periphery concepts to suit to Chinas modernization requirements, on the other.
The top PRC leadership presumably is yet to reconcile the two different approaches. Admittedly, there is no convincing proof for this prognosis, but it would be in Indias interests to watch carefully for signs of such differences, with a scrutiny on how they will play out in future if they are found to exist. Another possibility is that pronouncements like what have been made in the article could be meant a Chinese pressure tactic against India for the purpose of extracting territorial concessions during future border negotiations, for e.g on the status of Tawang.
In any case, it would be strongly advisable for New Delhi to keep itself alive to the likelihood of China carrying out any military misadventure in the border, however illogical that may appear at this juncture. Considering the present India-Pakistan tensions, such an alert on the part of India becomes all the more necessary.
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