Pakistan Army Future Artillery interests after Indian procurment of M 777 and K 9 Thunder

[NKVD]

Guys Meet this Cold War ERA Beast

180 mm Gun S-23

Designed and developed by USSR during the Cold War era, 180 mm gun S-23 is a Soviet heavy gun, which was designed by NII-58 and later exported to the Indian Army. Presently, there are nearly over 100 180 mm gun S-23 in Indian arsenal and is one of the eleven towed artilleries with the army. The big gun has a length of 10.48 m (34 ft 5 in) with barrel and weighs approximately 21,450 kg. With the barrel length of 8.8m and a width of 2.99m, the gun uses HE, Nuclear-Capable shells and produces a striking muzzle velocity of 850m/s. the gun has an elevation of -2° to +50° and fire at a rate of 1 rpm maximum or 1 round every two minutes sustained in a effective range of 30.4 km to a maximum of 43.8 km With RAP

 

[Mughal-Prince]

thanks sirji for the post but your bulk of cutting edge leathel wepons are US made and india knows it but unlike pakistan in crying like a victim we indians tend to do the opposite in finding owt solutions for a problem from past misfortunes and mistakes and for that we are first making owrselfs internalli strong and also buying from the best source what we cant have from owr traditional sources and home manufacturing and as i had said before ultra light arty guns and some truck mounted guns will be for eastern border while bulk of tracked , towed and self propelled arty systems are for western front

Yaar listen we are not crying it's not our trait infact its an opposite side trend ... And yes that is highly admirable that you people are indigenising the solutions and we are doing the same but at another pace and at our ease ... That's not the case that we are sitting Idle but in our case our organisations which are responsible for research and development for the indigenisation of the systems works in a different manner and they are far less accountable than other counterpart in other countries as well as they are highly squeezed at budgetary constraints. I can understand that what kind of weapon procured for which place like 777 are one of the world's most light and lethal artillery system which can be taken to the higher grounds with helicopters easily so siachen comes to mind and LoC at various places ... Whereas in Rajasthan and other places you have your choice of deployment whatever suits you as per requirement.

 

[Tipu7]

tajes is in IAF active

In which squadron?

 

[Super Falcon]

Guru pa ji ur kuds are trooling the party bringing tejas every time

What about german pzh 2000

 

[GURU DUTT]

Guru pa ji ur kuds are trooling the party bringing tejas every time

What about german pzh 2000

german gun is very very good but too heavy and costly while we need guns that have good range but are lighter and cost effective hence the M-777(which according to my sources actual number india plans to buy and make in india is well above 350) and as for K-9 its great but in long term indian army plans something like non line of sight gun system

 

[killer elite]

Their is no join venture here Mr it was solely developed by South African company in 2002 their was not joint venture and our COAS was briefed on this one and other South African Artillery Guns during his recent visit to South Africa

Since none of the “desi” journalists have so far bothered to showcase the first fully-functional prototype of the 155mm/52-calibre truck-mounted howitzer unveilled last week by TATA Power’s Strategic Electronics Division (SED), I might as well as be the one to provide certain insights!

Dubbed as being 55% indigenous by content, this motorised howitzer was jointly developed by TATA Power SED and South Africa’s DENEL Land Systems. Essentially a re-engineered version of DENEL’s T5-52 motorised howitzer (which was showcased during DEFEXPO 2002 along with SOLTAM Systems’ ATMOS, with both of them at that time making use of a TATRA-built truck, the latest ‘avatar’ of this weapon system has unveiled last March/April at the DEFEXPO 2012 expo at Pragati Maidan, New Delhi. At that time, TATA Power SED officials seemed confident of exporting this motorised howitzer to Indonesia. If this deal does fructify, then Indonesia’s Army (TNI-AD) would become the third ASEAN army to procure such howitzers, the other two being the Royal Thai Army with six Nexter Systems-built Caesars in service, and Myanmar’s army with 12 Yugoimport SDPR-built Noras in service.

DENEL Land Systems has supplied the monoblock gun barrel fitted with a double-baffle muzzle brake, gun cradle with an integrated buffer system, swing-and-slide breech mechanism, electrically-activated firing mechanism, autoloader/rammer, ballistics charts, muzzle velocity radar, an automatic laying and land navigation system using a RLG-INS, a panoramic optical-mechanical sight mounted directly to the trunnion, incorporating a compensation system for trunnion cant, which forms a backup for indirect fire, and a telescopic sight for direct fire that is mounted to the compensation system. TATA Power SED, on the other hand, developed the digital ballistics computer, telecommunications system, the hydraulic system that supplies hydraulic power for deployment of the outriggers and the top-carriage hydraulics, all on-board electrical systems, the gun management computer, and the ‘Rajak’ driver’s vision enhancement system. The customised 8 x 8 truck comes from TATA Motors.

Overall, TATA Power SED’s solution is being touted as being the cheapest option, a claim that will undoubtedly be contested by the likes of other contenders like the Larsen & Toubro/Nexter Systems partnership that is offering the Caesar, the Kalyani Group/ELBIT Systems partnership that is likely to offer the ATMOS, and the Punj Lloyd/Yugoimport SDPR partnership that is likely to propose the Nora. However, a simple visual comparison between TATA Power SED’s solution and the Caesar reveals the fact that the latter’s overall design is superior as it can be airlifted by transporters like the C-130J-30. In addition, the Caesar has also been combat proven in both Afghanistan and along the Thai-Cambodian border.

 

[killer elite]

However, one thing is certain: the Indian Army’s demand for such motorised howitzers (labelled by the Indian Army as Mounted Gun Systems), which first arose immediately after OP Vijay in 1999, will be for at least 1,800 units (and not 814 as is being erroneously claimed in some quarters) in the years to come, since it is now virtually certain that the Indian Army will no longer procure the 1,580 towed 155mm/52-cal howitzers that it had earlier planned to, given the fact that the DRDO has succeeded (only God knows how!) in convincing the Ministry of Defence that it, along with India’s private-sector firms and public-sector undertakings, will be able to deliver a futuristic 155mm/52-cal advanced towed artillery gun system (ATAGS) by 2022.

The 155mm/52-cal MGS is the second such product to emerge from TATA Power’s stable, the first being a truck-mounted version of the 105mm India Field Gun Mk2, which was co-developed with the MoD-owned Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) about seven years ago.

TRISHUL: TATA Power SED's 155mm/52-cal Motorised Howitzer Detailed