Pakistan Army Aviation Corps - Updated

[fatman17]

Its Party Tm


Its Party time for Army Aviation. mirchi time for some gurus

They get the AH 64

 

[Kompromat]

Only issue is long lead time - 2 yrs before they are delivered.

In other words they are meant for Indian front

 

[fatman17]

So what does the future look like
15 AH -1Z
30 AH - 1F. Combo of Jordanian and upgraded own
15 Z -10 if trials are successful
Don't see how Mi 35 s or Mi 28s come in the picture now.

 

[Rain]

They get the AH 64

It was in context that we have no money hence we cant buy any decent piece of our armed forces.
Recent buying spree is a start up. lets hope it continues.

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

Although Pakistan had already enough on PAK-US arms deals and even today the PA aviation is dying to get handful of spares for its aging AH-1F fleet but US let us down, like ever and only the brotherly countries came up to help us.

But never mind we are a tough nation and we are always ready to be screwed by US.

 

[Path-Finder]

By adding China Turkey Russia Into a competition for Heli's it has really twisted the Yankee arms. But i don't think it is wise for PA to buy American, should be shedding the weight by reducing American gizmos.

 

[Kompromat]

So what does the future look like
15 AH -1Z
30 AH - 1F. Combo of Jordanian and upgraded own
15 Z -10 if trials are successful
Don't see how Mi 35 s or Mi 28s come in the picture now.

15 - AH-1Z
Cobras to be replaced by Z-10 upgrade
20-30 Mi-35 for Spec Ops/ANF
No - Mi-28 i'd say.

 

[nomi007]

 

[Slides]

15 - AH-1Z
Cobras to be replaced by Z-10 upgrade
20-30 Mi-35 for Spec Ops/ANF
No - Mi-28 i'd say.

That's sounds pretty reasonable. I would have hoped for 20 AH-1Zs, but considering the cost, 15 seems okay.

If we also induct the Z-10's in sizable enough numbers, do we really need the Mi-35s? Do they provide any capability beyond the Z-10s or AH-1Zs?

 

[TheNoob]

Wait, thats one hefty amount.
Whos paying?!

 

[Kompromat]

That's sounds pretty reasonable. I would have hoped for 20 AH-1Zs, but considering the cost, 15 seems okay.

If we also induct the Z-10's in sizable enough numbers, do we really need the Mi-35s? Do they provide any capability beyond the Z-10s or AH-1Zs?

Mi-35 is an Assault Helicopter, the only one of its kind. It can carry an assault team of 8 fully armed SSGs, insert them, then loiter and provide close air support as well as carry out extraction by itself. Its perfectly suited for surgical hit, grab and run ops.

 

[Slides]

Mi-35 is an Assault Helicopter, the only one of its kind. It can carry an assault team of 8 fully armed SSGs, insert them, then loiter and provide close air support as well as carry out extraction by itself. Its perfectly suited for surgical hit, grab and run ops.

8 is a very small number of troops to be very effective at anything but the smallest of missions. I'm not sure how useful this capability is. More Mi-17's might be better.

 

[Kompromat]

8 is a very small number of troops to be very effective at anything but the smallest of missions. I'm not sure how useful this capability is. More Mi-17's might be better.

They can escort Mi-17s into battle, 8 is a huge number for SSGs, especially when you are inserting snipers to cover the incoming assault team.

 

[Slides]

They can escort Mi-17s into battle, 8 is a huge number for SSGs, especially when you are inserting snipers to cover the incoming assault team.

Yes, that scenario does make sense to me for an advanced scout/sniper SSG element or support team. But, I don't think PAA can operate three different types of gunships. If the AH-1Z deal goes through, it'll have to be either the Z-10 or Mi-35.

 

[Kompromat]

Yes, that scenario does make sense to me for an advanced scout/sniper SSG element or support team. But, I don't think PAA can operate three different types of gunships. If the AH-1Z deal goes through, it'll have to be either the Z-10 or Mi-35.

Let's see. I think we will see 3 of them in service.