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Pakistan and the TTP (Taliban) in peace talks?

Taliban deny ceasefire, attack police station in DI Khan

PESHAWAR: A Tahreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) spokesman on Wednesday denied reports of a ceasefire when the militant group attacked Pakistani policemen and killed one officer.
“We accept the responsibility of the attack on a police station in Dera Ismail Khan (district),” the TTP’s main spokesman, Ehsanullah Ehsan, told AFP.

“We are not talking to the government and will not be part of any dialogue with the government. This is a clear message for those who are thinking that we are involved in negotiations.”

On Tuesday, a senior commander of the militant group, on the condition of anonymity, had said that the ceasefire had been in place for the past month, reported AP.

Today, (Wednesday) an Assistant Sub-Inspector (ASI) was killed and five other police officials injured when militants carrying rocket propelled grenades and other heavy arms attacked a police station in the Draband in Dera Ismail Khan.
Sources said that the attack took place at around 4:40am on Wednesday when a huge explosion was heard near the police station building.

“There were about 8-10 armed men that attacked the police station with rockets, one of our officials was killed while five others were injured,” District Police Officer (DPO) Sohail Khalid told The Express Tribune.

Taliban deny ceasefire, attack police station in DI Khan – The Express Tribune
 
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Judging by their track record, I wouldn't hold my breath on it. Do keep in mind that two factions of the TTP have publicly announced dissociation with the peace talks and have announced that attacks will not cease against the state. Previous ceasefires in Khyber, Swat, Bajaur and the suspension of hostilities of 2007 broke down within the first two months.
These ceasefires are just excuses for buying enough time to stockpile weapons and occupying strategically significant positions before they can declare us all murtads(again) and we can go back to fighting(again).
 
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pakistani authorities must be alert and dont fall in there traps ye kutte ki dum hai jo kabhi sedhi nahi hoti........beware of them they may use peace time to regroup........
 
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Taliban deny ceasefire, attack police station in DI Khan
By AFP / Iftikhar Firdous
Published: November 23, 2011
PESHAWAR: A Tahreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) spokesman on Wednesday denied reports of a ceasefire when the militant group attacked Pakistani policemen and killed one officer.
“We accept the responsibility of the attack on a police station in Dera Ismail Khan (district),” the TTP’s main spokesman, Ehsanullah Ehsan, told AFP.
“We are not talking to the government and will not be part of any dialogue with the government. This is a clear message for those who are thinking that we are involved in negotiations.”
On Tuesday, a senior commander of the militant group, on the condition of anonymity, had said that the ceasefire had been in place for the past month, reported AP.
Today, (Wednesday) an Assistant Sub-Inspector (ASI) was killed and five other police officials injured when militants carrying rocket propelled grenades and other heavy arms attacked a police station in the Draband in Dera Ismail Khan.
Sources said that the attack took place at around 4:40am on Wednesday when a huge explosion was heard near the police station building.
“There were about 8-10 armed men that attacked the police station with rockets, one of our officials was killed while five others were injured,” District Police Officer (DPO) Sohail Khalid told The Express Tribune.
Khalid ruled out the possibility of any prior information of the attack.
“It was an attack by militants, most probably from the tribal belt,” he said.
The ASI who was killed was identified as Akram.
SHO Zulfiqar and four other police personnel were shifted to a hospital in DI Khan City where they were treated.
The police station received considerable damage with bullet holes in the walls. Sources said the militants took away the arms present in the building at the time.
No group or organisation has claimed responsibility for the incident so far.
However, security officials believe that these were militants from the tribal belt of South Waziristan. The attack comes a day after a news agency had reported of a “cease fire” between the Taliban and Pakistan Government in South Waziristan. However, this was denied by the military and Interior Minister Rehman also denied any “formal talks”.
The Tehreek-i-Taliban (TTP) which is an umbrella term for many militant factions has also denied any talks with the government on the other side.

This latest attack on the police station should erase all doubts regarding the threat these evil minded terrorists pose to the great nation of Pakistan. They are attempting to break the will of those who are willing to lay their lives down to protect the nation. We just witnessed the killing of a mosque cleric, who was shot dead for refusing to teach “terrorist value,” and that alone confirms that the threat these terrorists pose is of catastrophic proportions. They have zero tolerance for anyone who dares speak against their beliefs, or who resists their hatred and ideology. Time is proving that these terrorists deserve no leeway, and need to be handled with an iron first.

The responsibility also lies upon everyone to acknowledge that the threat rests inside Pakistan, and indulging in the blame game could only result in more destruction. It has become clear that these terrorists cannot be trusted, and history shows their criminality has always been coupled with deception. Their leaders speak against attacking civilians, and then the following day, we hear about civilians dying in a suicide blast. Whether it’s Eid or Friday prayers at a mosque, they attack and kill, when one least expects them to. The cross border attacks against our forces, the suicide blasts throughout the country, along with the attacks on innocent civilians redundantly confirm what we have long known; they are desperately trying to destabilize the region for the sake of gaining control. The seriousness of the situation requires us all to stand united against the enemies of humanity and fully support our governments’ efforts against terrorism.

MAJ Nevers,
DET, United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command
 
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‘Mullah Omar is pushing TTP to reconcile with govt’
By Zia Khan
Published: November 26, 2011

Taliban chief Mullah Omar acknowledges dialogue as an alternative .
ISLAMABAD:
Afghan Taliban supreme commander Mullah Muhammad Omar is pushing Pakistani militants based in the tribal areas to strike a peace deal with the government and has advised the chief of the Haqqani network to mediate between them.
“We have received a message from Ameerul-Momineen that there should be an end to our activities inside Pakistan …he wants us to make peace with the government and focus on Afghanistan against infidels,” a Taliban associate said.
This was confirmed to The Express Tribune over the past week by at least two other members of the terror group based in South Waziristan, as well as a couple of tribal elders privy to the ongoing talks between the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and the government.
However, none of them wanted to be named because of the sensitivity of the matter.
Meeting between Afghan, Pakistani militants
It was not clear when and how the elusive leader of the Afghan Taliban had sent his message.
At least two Taliban affiliates, one in Miramshah, North Waziristan and the other in Wana, South Waziristan, said that communication between representatives of Mullah Omar and Pakistani militants took place in an Arab country this Ramazan.
But a tribal elder, who claimed to be in the know of the ongoing talks, said that the son of a slain Afghan militant leader came to Waziristan as Mullah Omar’s representative.
The young messenger, he added, travelled from Kandahar to South Waziristan, the stronghold of the TTP, immediately after Ramazan and held meetings with members of a powerful shura that takes policy decisions for Pakistani militant groups.
Both the tribal leader and militant group’s insiders were, however, not sure if the representative of the Afghan Taliban fugitive head also met TTP chief Hakimullah Mehsud, who has been in hiding for almost a year now.
In the neighbouring North Waziristan agency, Mullah Omar’s message for peace with Pakistan and its security forces has also been making rounds for some time now.
The network’s associates from Mirali town said that the group’s chief, Sirajuddin Haqqani, had been advised by Mullah Omar, whom he called his spiritual leader, to use his influence over the TTP to help broker the peace deal.
Military, intelligence deny reports of talks
It emerged over the last weekend that Pakistan security forces and the homegrown Taliban were holding talks to end an almost a decade old conflict in the country’s tribal areas.
Follow-up reports this week suggested that both sides had already covered ‘significant ground’ and were close to an agreement.
However, the Pakistani military immediately issued a strong denial, with the Taliban also rejecting the claim, although they earlier said that a truce was in place to pave way for talks.
In September, Pakistan’s top political and military leadership expressed desire to open peace talks with its ‘own people’ operating from the country’s tribal areas.
Since almost half a year now, Pakistani cities have been relatively calm and life is slowly returning to normalcy after years of violent attacks by the homegrown Taliban.
Experts like journalist Fida Khan, who has been covering militancy for a Japanese publication for more than a decade now, believes that this calm itself is an indication of something significant happening away from the media limelight.
“But all this will remain fragile for sometime unless something concrete happens and a slight mistake can blow things into a bigger conflict,” Khan feared.
‘Move by the Taliban to voluntarily end war will be welcomed’.
Meanwhile, Interior Minister Rehman Malik said on Friday that Pakistan will not initiate a dialogue with the local Taliban unless they lay down their arms and give up terrorism.
A move by the Taliban to voluntarily end war will be welcomed, Malik said at a press briefing along with UK Home Secretary Theresa May.
(Read: Talking to the terrorists)
ADDITIONAL INPUT FROM APP
Published in The Express Tribune, November 26th, 2011.
 
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fake!!!! such news surfacing on the behalf of unnamed commanders doesn't hold any credibility official taliban spokesman has denied the talks and also the purported ceasefire so did the military.the reason behind hiatus in attacks points towards taliban weakness and also their eagerness to by some time so they can overhaul their organization and military structure.
other factor is alqaeda which is herself so stressed by the non-breaking barrages of drone attacks that she can't help their TTP partners as for military situation is not less then grave because they have to placate haqqani's and mullah nazir to sever all ties with TTP and also to find a solution for NWA
each rival is using this hush time for their respective strategic interests
 
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Pakistani Taliban confirm peace talks with Islamabad

Updated 15 minutes ago


PESHAWAR: The deputy commander of the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), who have been waging a four-year war against the government in Islamabad, confirmed the two sides were in peace talks, a move that could further fray the US-Pakistan relationship.

"Our talks are going in the right direction," Maulvi Faqir Mohammad, the commander of the Pakistani Taliban in the Bajaur tribal agency and the No. 2 commander overall, told.

"If negotiations succeed and we are able to sign a peace agreement in Bajaur, then the government and the Taliban of other areas such as Swat, Mohmand, Orakzai and South Waziristan tribal region will sign an agreement. Bajaur will be a role model for other areas."
http://www.thenews.com.pk/NewsDetail.aspx?ID=28301&title=TTP-confirm-peace-talks-with-Islamabad
 
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The Pakistani Taliban have confirmed that they are in peace talks with the government in Islamabad.

"Our talks are going in the right direction," Maulvi Faqir Mohammad, the commander of the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan [TTP] in the Bajaur tribal agency, and the deputy commander of the movement as a whole, told the Reuters news agency on Saturday.

"If negotiations succeed and we are able to sign a peace agreement in Bajaur, then the government and the Taliban of other areas such as Swat, Mohmand, Orakzai and South Waziristan tribal region will sign an agreement.

"Bajaur will be a role model for other areas."

He said Pakistan had released 145 members of the group as a gesture of goodwill, and the fighters had pledged a ceasefire.

Al Jazeera’s Kamal Hyder, reporting from Islamabad, said the talks had been initiated under mediation efforts from tribal leaders.

“The government is saying it needs to do this as there is no solution other than a political solution," he said.

"It will certainly anger the Americans, but the argument here in Pakistan is that if the Americans are willing to talk to the Taliban, then there should be no objection for Pakistanis to try some sort of settlement."

'Give peace a chance'

The armed group has been battling the Pakistani army in the country’s northwest for the last four years, resulting in the deaths of thousands of Pakistanis.

The group has taken responsibility for a number of major attacks across the country.

There was no immediate comment from the government on the reports, but Islamabad pledged in September to "give peace a chance" and talk with homegrown armed groups.

The announcement may further fray relations between Pakistan and the US, from which the country receives billions of dollars in military aid, as Washington has labelled the TTP a terrorist group.

The development comes weeks after at least 24 Pakistan soldiers were killed in a NATO air raid, which US President Barack Obama said was a mistake.

Following the incident, Pakistan shut a vital NATO supply route into Afghanistan and ordered the US to vacate Shamsi air base.

A Pakistani parliamentary committee has ordered a complete review of all strategic agreements with the US, and top officials say that the goal is to draft a new set of "terms of engagement" with the United States.

Past peace pacts with the TTP have failed to bring stability and merely gave the umbrella group time and space to consolidate. In every previous case of a peace deal with members of the group, peace deals have broken down and led to the resumption of hostilities.

There have been isolated instances of peace deals with members of the group holding, but these have usually involved the local commander in question withdrawing from the TTP.

Source: Pakistani Taliban 'in talks with government' - Central & South Asia - Al Jazeera English
 
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Same news from a Pakistani source as well



The deputy commander of the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), who have been waging a four-year war against the government in Islamabad, confirmed the twosides were in peace talks, a move that could further fray the US-Pakistan relationship.

“Our talks are going in the right direction,” Maulvi Faqir Mohammad, the commander of the Pakistani Taliban in the Bajaur tribal agency and the No. 2 commander overall, told.

“If negotiations succeed and we are able to sign a peace agreement in Bajaur, then the government and the Taliban of other areas such as Swat, Mohmand, Orakzai and South Waziristan tribal region will sign an agreement. Bajaur will be a role model for other areas.”

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Source:Tehrik e Taliban Pakistan confirm peace talks with Govt | PKColumns | Paksitani Columns, Urdu Columns, Pakistani editorials
 
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How people of Fata see Pakistan-TTP talks

ISLAMABAD: Confirmation by the prime minister on Saturday that talks with the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) are part of “an ongoing process” represents a delicate and potentially dangerous point in the militant insurgency.

If so chosen, a politically expedient pursuit of “giving peace a chance” could well prove the darkest entry yet in the collective diary of miseries of the residents of Fata. The probable conclusion of such a new chapter: about four million citizens could lose whatever little faith they have left in the State. They are only human, after all.

Any attempt to impose what, to the tribes’ collective mind, would be an external solution, is almost certain to prove counterproductive.

From Bajaur to South Waziristan, every Fata resident has a story to tell in which, disturbingly, the authorities’ pursuit of covert relationships with TTP players has come at the cost of the terrorists’ captive population.

It is impossible, given that the Fata is a no-man’s land for mainstream national journalists, to substantiate the stories, so factual veracity should not be assumed.

Sitting in the comfort of an office in Islamabad, it would also be cynical to assume the worst of the authorities when the terrorists have murdered thousands of soldiers. But, considering the crucial role of public sentiment in such a national security crisis, generic examples of the most common complaints demand an open-minded audience if any credible effort to de-radicalize the Fata is to be undertaken.

By far the most common complaint is that such-and-such TTP commander and his fighters were stopped at a paramilitary check post, but allowed to proceed after they produced a pass supposedly issued by the security authorities. That such relationships exist is a fact acknowledged by the authorities as a necessity in any fluid security environment, as reflected by talks-about-talks over the last couple of years between the US and the Afghan Taliban.

In the interest of realism, it should be recognised here that gaining leverage over certain faction leaders is an obvious way of weakening the overall TTP command and control structure.

Indeed, that tactic was key to the success of the 2009 counter-terrorist operation in South Waziristan and this summer’s campaign in Kurram. However, the equally obvious downside is that it has nurtured suspicions within tribal communities of complicity between the authorities and the terrorists.

That leads to a second common complaint: innocent local people were rounded up - some never to return, others anonymously buried at midnight - in a security operation against such-and-such TTP commander, who went underground, only to resurface a few weeks later.

That is probably the most disturbing popular narrative in the Fata, because it takes the perception of complicity to a higher plane.

Unfortunately, it cannot be dismissed as mere tribesmen’s gossip: the most respected security analysts in Islamabad, particularly the Fata residents among them, say the same thing.

The subsequent gaping trust deficit between the tribes and the authorities has long-term implications for national security, as would the terms of any peace agreement with the TTP. Those implications have been accentuated by the Nato attack on the Mohmand border posts.

The US, as part of its 2014 military exit strategy for Afghanistan, is spending crazy amounts of money on the creation of an anti-terrorist bulwark along the Durand Line. Washington’s current annual spending on putting together a force of half-a-million Afghan troops, paramilitary police, tribal militia and armed private security contractors is easily more than double Pakistan’s $5 billion defence budget.

Potentially, that could leave Pakistan with a strategic cancer on its northwest flank.

From the big-picture perspective of national security policymaking, the motivation for seeking peace with a greatly weakened TTP, theoretically, would be three-fold.

First, there is an urgent need to stabilize Fata so that TTP players are less susceptible to manipulation by extremely well funded Afghan warlords who, in turn, are proxies of Pakistan’s strategic competitors.

Second, peace with TTP would free up many of the 140,000 troops currently deployed in the Fata and adjacent districts of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, and facilitate a reallocation of military resources in response to conventional external threats to national security.

Third, and perhaps of most importance to national security policymaking, it would give credence to Pakistan’s argument that the US should engage in meaningful negotiations with the Afghan Taliban without first requiring them to disarm.

The challenge facing the actual policymakers would be to secure the surrender and disarmament of the TTP on terms agreeable to the Fata general public. Much of it still lives in squalor, either as a mostly abandoned refugee population, or under the blade of the TTP.

But, so far, the TTP has shown little interest in a compromise, largely because its commanders are harvesting the profits of a massive covert war economy.

The terms reportedly put forth by the TTP Mahsud, reportedly after a shura meeting in September, echoed those of the failed 2004 Shakai and 2005 Sararogha peace agreements: enforce the shariah, pay compensation, and withdraw from the strategic partnership with the US.

The first condition also echoes the failed Swat agreement of 2009, because it implies the TTP would assume the role of shariah enforcer and, therefore, of the acknowledged political authority on the ground.

The subsequent demand for compensation would require the government of Pakistan to further acknowledge the terrorists’ right to supersede the Constitution.

The third condition would virtually require the authorities’ to allow the militants’ cross-border endeavours - and invite US diplomatic and military retaliation.

Every Fata security expert worth a pay cheque is convinced that anything short of an unconditional TTP surrender and collective toba (repentance) would increase the perception of complicity - and, thus, the sense of victimisation - within the tribal communities to the point of no return.

In an environment where the TTP does everything from paying salaries to charging taxes and executing alleged spies, any overt display of weakness by the government could easily push some tribes permanently into the insurgent camp.

A government willing to engage in direct peace talks would certainly be perceived as weak.

Already, through statements to the media, the disparate faction leaders of the TTP are sensing an opportunity and showing signs of reuniting, at least politically, to strengthen their collective bargaining position.

Again, from the broader national security policymaking perspective, that would make negotiations a lot simpler. But it would also reverse - partially, at least - the gains won after three years of counter-terrorism operations, and the loss of so many civilian and military lives.

The obvious solution, unanimously cited by Fata security experts, would be to re-empower the tribes, by making them the final arbiter in the conflict with the terrorists in Fata.

A pertinent example of that working in practice was the 2009 declaration by authorities in South Waziristan that any improvised explosive device (IED) attack on the security forces would result in punitive action against the clan living within a kilometre of the detonation. Instantly, two years of IED attacks on the Tank-Wana road ceased, permanently.

The tribes are certainly in a much better position than the government to persuade non-committed TTP fighters to lay down their arms and reintegrate with society.

The empowerment of the tribes would also facilitate the gradual introduction of democracy in the Fata, ahead of the 2013 general election. It would invariably encourage the reintegration of tribal society by giving voters there a desperately needed sense of participation in national affairs.

More to the point, it would restore some of the trust in the State. Any deal that empowered the TTP, however, would have the reverse effect, with ominous consequences.
 
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