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[Knight Rider]

Yes you are right & we hope for the Best for Pakistan INSHALLAH, beside that can we go for J-31 v2 !!!

Yes !!! FC-31 (J-31) will be build inside PAC just like JF-17 thunder. For this purpose PAF has already launch Project Azm. Project Azm is all about setting up facilities inside PAC to support FGFA project.

Project AZM
Aviation City’s evolution transforms PAC Kamra into a teaching industry by bridging itself with co-located Air University Campus. Entire infrastructure of production, upgrade/ overhaul, research & development, qualification and certification would be opened to the students of Air University, thus equipping them with higher academic knowledge and professional skills. These students would be fully fielded in all such disciplines under collaborative supervision of Air University faculty and engineering leadership of the factories.
The multi-discipline research team at Aviation Research, Indigenization & Development (AvRID) Centre will include an effective mix of highly qualified and experienced specialists, who would leverage industrial and academic potential available to Kamra. This would put together components of industry and academia to build a high-end research center to enhance indigenization capability.
AvRID (Aviation Research, Indigenization & Development) at Kamra is destined to be the embodiment of this aim.

 

[Amigator]

So according to indian media Rafale is 4th gen aircraft and according to IAF chief Pakistan's F-16 after MLU becomes 4.5th gen aircraft.

Indian Airforce Chief quoted "There are reasons (for that) because our neighbours are not sitting idle. Pakistan has upgraded F-16s and made them 4.5 generation as far as avionic electronics goes and is inducting JF-17 (from China) in large numbers."

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[TOPGUN]

Yes !!! FC-31 (J-31) will be build inside PAC just like JF-17 thunder. For this purpose PAF has already launch Project Azm. Project Azm is all about setting up facilities inside PAC to support FGFA project.

Project AZM
Aviation City’s evolution transforms PAC Kamra into a teaching industry by bridging itself with co-located Air University Campus. Entire infrastructure of production, upgrade/ overhaul, research & development, qualification and certification would be opened to the students of Air University, thus equipping them with higher academic knowledge and professional skills. These students would be fully fielded in all such disciplines under collaborative supervision of Air University faculty and engineering leadership of the factories.
The multi-discipline research team at Aviation Research, Indigenization & Development (AvRID) Centre will include an effective mix of highly qualified and experienced specialists, who would leverage industrial and academic potential available to Kamra. This would put together components of industry and academia to build a high-end research center to enhance indigenization capability.
AvRID (Aviation Research, Indigenization & Development) at Kamra is destined to be the embodiment of this aim.

We do know yet if it will be FC-31 ? or new aircraft in the making simply to early to state such news without clear shown facts regarding the aircraft.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

He is just shytting bricks because Pakistan is successfully replacing its work horse jets. While India is struggling with lower operational squadrons than required and not being able to replace their workhorse jets.

So according to indian media Rafale is 4th gen aircraft and according to IAF chief Pakistan's F-16 after MLU becomes 4.5th gen aircraft.

Indian Airforce Chief quoted "There are reasons (for that) because our neighbours are not sitting idle. Pakistan has upgraded F-16s and made them 4.5 generation as far as avionic electronics goes and is inducting JF-17 (from China) in large numbers."

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[salman-1]

It's a mix fc31, as basic stealth design is supposedly OK. But twin engine is a costly option for greater numbers. So using single engine of J20 is gonna fill the gap well.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Can we get foreign customers/partners like F-35 programme??

This program should not be solely reliant on China. It should also have Turkish input as they could help us out in electronic/sensor/cyber aspect. After all they make fantastic subsytems and have been making F16 and F35 components for a very long time.

We can make this a cost effective F-35 with great export potential.

 

[Windjammer]

Seems PAF has installed a new type of chafe and flare system on it's F-16 fleet.

 

[SherDil]

 

[Quwa]

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I wonder if the Kamra team's inspired by the Airbus FCAS? @Oscar @messiach

 

[messiach]

All i can say is i have seen the probable competing designs. I am more interested in what turbines can power this fighter.

I wonder if the Kamra team's inspired by the Airbus FCAS? @Oscar @messiach

 

[SQ8]

Seems PAF has installed a new type of chafe and flare system on it's F-16 fleet.

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No. Just different programs you can put into the dispenser. Same dispensar on all F-16C/D’s.

I wonder if the Kamra team's inspired by the Airbus FCAS? @Oscar @messiach

Might be inspired but suffice to say that two of the designs in play are rather unconventional. As @messiach put it, its more about the engines then the airframe right now.

 

[denel]

No. Just different programs you can put into the dispenser. Same dispensar on all F-16C/D’s.


Might be inspired but suffice to say that two of the designs in play are rather unconventional. As @messiach put it, its more about the engines then the airframe right now.

Agreed. achiles heal is the engine as we have seen with jf-17 program

 

[Army research]

No. Just different programs you can put into the dispenser. Same dispensar on all F-16C/D’s.


Might be inspired but suffice to say that two of the designs in play are rather unconventional. As @messiach put it, its more about the engines then the airframe right now.

Last when I talked with a person working on thus a year and a half ago he mentioned the same issue, but between then and now the Chinese have finally declared their domestic engine for the J20 fully op,
Hopefully this works

 

[Windjammer]

No. Just different programs you can put into the dispenser. Same dispensar on all F-16C/D’s.

Seems the switch over is a recent factor since we use to see individual release of flares....the same seems to apply on the JF-17 as well.

 

[SQ8]

Seems the switch over is a recent factor since we use to see individual release of flares....the same seems to apply on the JF-17 as well.

Just a program setting -
Can be 2 flare 6 chaff - 6 chaff 6 flare - continuous dispense etc