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Pakistan is to receive eight F-16s as the State Departmentapproved the sale on Friday. The $699 million subsidized sale will see Islamabad get two C models and six D models of the fighter alongside 14 Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems (JHMCS), eight AN/APG-68(V)9 radars, and eight ALQ-211(V)9 Advanced Integrated Defensive Electronic Warfare Suites (AIDEWS). But the sale has come under scrutiny from lawmakers. Republican Senator and chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Bob Corker expressed his concern in a letter to Secretary of State John Kerry. Corker stated that the Pakistani government’s provision of safety to militant groups such as the Haqqani Network, who operate extensively in destabilizing Afghanistan, did not warrant US taxpayers subsidizing arms sales to the country. However, he would not be opposed to the sale if Pakistan paid for the fighters themselves.
 
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Originally PAF asked for 36 x F16 C/D block 52+

Then this was cut to 18

Now they added another 8

I hope they don't add another 10 since that would be the original order of 36

This staggered approach costs more and takes longer why PAF decided to change it's mind I don't know

Finance related most probably but in the long run we should have just ordered the 36 new units and by now all would have been operational

The government needs to decide from the beginning what it wants and stick to the order, this playing around doesn't help



Not all the ex-Jordanian F16 are operational some were used for spares and cannibalized and only 41 F16 went through MLU programme by TAI, my guess is your 76 is based on 31+14+13+18

All ex Jordan F16s are operational. No need to cannabalize as spares are readily available.
 
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The timing of this notification is immaculate. As we know the Congress is due to break soon if not already. It will reconvene 8th March and the super sunday (as per Hkhan of Pakdef) is the week after. As such business activity in Congress remains low. This sale will God willing go through without any hurdles. Also worthy of note is the fact that we wanted AIM9X but it is not part of the sale as is the AESA radar which may have made the deal more difficult. So some clever negotiations and maneuvering by the US adminiistration. We have still got a need for HOBS missiles however it seems PAF might source them from a third party/buy later. Also missing from the equation is AIM 120D. News is surfacing of PAFs interest in the rest of the Jordanian fleet which has long been managed by the Pakistanis in Jordan. This would be a better solution for us to replace 20 fighters while not spending much. We are assuming that the new F16S are coming via FMF so in fact US is paying for them. If true it means no strain on our sovereign funds which could be reserved for a future buy.
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PS: I find it incredible that a sale of new equipment is always associated with some EDA articles. Am I imagining this or is this a fact. Any comments?

Pakistan share in this FMF is 435 mill $ out of total of 699 mill $ so not fully subsidised. Plus the state and Def dept have issued a " in the national security interest of the US " certificate for this sale.
 
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Up to 12 more Jordanian F16s are under discussion and negotiation, however 2 other countries are also interested so let's see if our influence prevails over our Jordan friends.
 
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Chengdu’s J-20 Enters Production

by David Donald

February 14, 2016, 9:15 AM

China’s much-debated J-20 stealth fighter has now entered the low-rate initial production (LRIP) phase. Following on from two prototype/technology demonstrators and at least six pre-production development aircraft, the first of a new batch of production examples made an appearance outside Chengdu’s works in late December. It reportedly made its first flight on January 18, by which time a second LRIP aircraft had also been spotted at the airfield.

Whereas the earlier aircraft had all been numbered in the 20xx range, and were revealed in a full painted finish, aircraft 2101 was seen undergoing taxi trials in December in a yellow primer finish typical of aircraft fresh from Chengdu’s production lines. A second LRIP machine, 2102, was recorded in January, also in the primer finish.

Designed by the 611 Institute and built by the Chengdu Aerospace Corporation at the Huangtianba airfield, the J-20 is a large multi-role fighter with stealthy features similar to those found in the American F-22 and F-35. Although very little is known about its intended purpose, the aircraft appears to offer capability in a number of roles, including long-range interception and precision attack.

In terms of weapon carriage the J-20 has a similar arrangement to that of the Lockheed Martin F-22, comprising two lateral bays for small air-to-air missiles such as the agile, imaging-infrared PL-10, and a large under-fuselage bay for accommodating larger missiles and precision-guided surface attack weapons. The 607 Institute’s new PL-15 active-radar missile is thought to be the primary long-range air-to-air weapon, reportedly having been test-fired from a Shenyang J-16 platform last year. The PL-21, a ramjet-powered weapon in the same class as theMBDA Meteor, is another possibility for the J-20.

The sensor suite includes an electro-optical targeting system (EOTS) and a large-array AESAradar, which was developed by the 14th Institute at Nanjing Research Institute of Electronics Technology (NRIET, 14th Institute), and is possibly designated Type 1475/KLJ-5. Diamond-shaped windows around the fuselage suggest that a distributed aperture infrared vision system is installed.

In the cockpit, the J-20 sports three large color displays, plus other small screens, and a holographic wide-angle head-up display. An advanced datalink has been developed, and a retractable refueling probe is located on the starboard side of the forward fuselage. Much of the avionics suite has been tested by the CFTE (China flight test establishment) aboard a modified Tupolev Tu-204C, in much the same way as the systems of the F-22 were tested in a Boeing 757.

One area that has dogged the J-20 is the powerplant, where Chinese indigenous development has lagged behind that of the airframe and systems. The intended powerplant for the J-20 is believed to be the WS-15, an afterburning engine in the 44,000-pound-thrust (197-kN) class being developed by Xian, and which may ultimately feature thrust-vectoring. However, this engine is not expected to be ready until around 2020. In the meantime, the J-20s produced so far have been powered by the NPOSaturn AL-31FN (as used in the single-engine J-10) imported from Russia. The latest J-20s have the improved AL-31FN Series 3 engine offering 30,800 pounds (137 kN) of thrust, but even this engine may not provide the J-20 with “supercruise” capability.

J-20 History

Spurred on by developments in both indigenous technology and U.S. military capability, China initiated a project for a twin-engine stealthy fighter in the early/mid-1990s, subsequently reported byU.S. intelligence as the XXJ program. Chengdu/611 Institute’s Project 718 competed with a larger design from Shenyang/601 Institute, and was eventually selected in 2008.

Chengdu is believed to have built an initial batch of four prototype airframes, of which two took to the air. The first, 2001, made its maiden flight on January 11, 2011. It was followed on May 16, 2012 by aircraft 2002, which was subsequently renumbered as 2004. Two other airframes are understood to have been used for ground static and fatigue testing, and additional airframes may have later been produced for radar cross-section tests.

On March 1, 2014 the first of the development batch aircraft (2011) made its first flight. Whereas 2001 and 2002 appeared to be prototypes for evaluating aerodynamics and aircraft systems, as well as limited weapon carriage tests, aircraft 2011 was clearly outfitted for some mission systems.

Quite apart from the new RAM (radar-absorbent material) paint, there were numerous differences between it and its predecessors: the tailfins featured cropped tips; the inlets and DSI(diverterless supersonic intake) bulges had been redesigned; the leading-edge root extensions between wing and foreplanes were reshaped; the canopy had gained a stiffening bow frame; and the cumbersome main-wheel door design of the initial aircraft had been replaced by a much neater installation.

Perhaps the most obvious differences were the new nose design with a dielectric radome for an AESAradar featuring a sawtooth joint with the main fuselage, and the addition of an electro-optical targeting system in a fairing beneath the forward fuselage.

Three further development aircraft took to the air during 2014;Number 2012 on July 26; Number 2013 on November 29; and Number 2015 less than a month later on December 19. The latter two lacked a nose-mounted air-data probe, suggesting that theAESA radar was installed. Aircraft Number 2016 flew on September 8, 2015 with reshaped DSI bulges and lengthened fairings around the nozzles to improve rear-aspect radar cross-section. Other changes included enlarged fairings to either side of the engine nozzles. Aircraft 2017 followed on November 24, with a slightly more pronounced hump to the canopy.

At least four aircraft of the development batch were transferred to the CFTE (China flight test establishment) at Xian-Yanliang for tests. It is expected that the initial LRIP aircraft will be dispatched to the Chinese air force’s test and training center at Cangzhou once initial manufacturer/acceptance trials have been completed, and during 2017 the first front-line regiment could start to receive aircraft. IOC is slated for 2019, but may occur earlier given the priority afforded to the J-20 program. Chinese officials have stated that final requirements could be between 500 and 700 aircraft.
 

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U.S. oks a $700mn FMS from Pakistan for 8 F-16 fighter aircraft

The United States State Department has approved a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Pakistan for F-16 Block 52 Aircraft, equipment, training, and logistics support. The estimated cost is $699.04 million, the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) announced on Feb. 12, 2016.

US ok 700mn FMS from Pakistan for 8 fighter aircraft 640 001Some 72 F-16 A/B/C/D fighter jets are currently in service in the PAF

The Government of Pakistan has requested a possible sale of eight (8) F-16 Block 52 aircraft (two (2) C and six (6) D models), with the F100-PW-229 increased performance engine, and fourteen (14) Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems (JHMCS).

Non-MDE items included in this request are eight (8) AN/APG-68(V)9 radars, and eight (8) ALQ-211(V)9 Advanced Integrated Defensive Electronic Warfare Suites (AIDEWS). Additionally, this possible sale includes spare and repair parts, support and test equipment, publications and technical documentation, personnel training and training equipment, U.S. Government and contractor engineering, technical and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistical and program support. The estimated cost of MDE is $564.68 million. The total estimated cost is $699.04 million.

"The proposed sale improves Pakistan's capability to meet current and future security threats. These additional F-16 aircraft will facilitate operations in all-weather, non-daylight environments, provide a self-defense/area suppression capability, and enhance Pakistan’s ability to conduct counter-insurgency and counterterrorism operations," the DSCA said.

"This sale will increase the number of aircraft available to the Pakistan Air Force to sustain operations, meet monthly training requirements, and support transition training for pilots new to the Block-52," the agency added.

Contractors have not been selected to support this proposed sale.
 
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