Pakistan agrees to further defence co-operation with Turkey

[fatman17]

Pakistan agrees to further defence co-operation with Turkey

Lale Sariibrahimoglu JDW Correspondent - Ankara

Pakistan and Turkey have agreed to co-operate in research and development (R&D) on a broad range of defence projects, including the joint production of cluster bombs.

Talks on the progress of co-operation are due to be held in April, when a Pakistani military delegation is scheduled to visit Ankara. The meeting is also intended to prepare the agenda for annual bilateral military talks in Islamabad in November.

The first meeting, which took place in Ankara between 18 and 21 October 2007, identified the areas of potential co-operation in defence, research, technology and production.

According to details obtained by Jane's , the main development and production projects the two countries will concentrate on are:

- NBC (nuclear, biological and chemical) detection, protection and decontamination equipment produced in Turkey;

- 81 mm mortar ammunition;

- production of cluster bombs with 300 to 400 bomblets each for different missions;

- production of precision-guided munitions;

- stealth technology to lower the radar cross-section of aircraft;

- detection systems for use against improvised explosive devices;

- precision-guided bomblets for conventional munitions;

- turbojet motors;

- co-operation in the sale and production of 122 mm short- and long-range multiple rocket launcher ammunition (Turkey's Roketsan and Machines and Chemical Industries Board are proposing sales and joint production with Pakistan);

- co-operation on AB103-104 MK82 fuses to train Turkish military personnel (as Pakistan sold the ammunition to Turkey in 2006);

- co-operation on producing automated combat manoeuvring instrument systems; and

- co-operation on early warning suites - including jammers for communication and radar sensors - for CN-235 aircraft.

 

[araz]

No news of cooperation in ship building /corvettes. Is that too premature?
Araz

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Good news on cooperation in some high tech fields:

- NBC protection

- Precision guided munitions

- Stealth Technology (possible future applications for JF-17?)

- Tubojet motors - Does turkey manufacture cruise missiles/naval missiles etc? If not, potentially a means to circumvent the MTCR? Locally developed.manufactured jet engines?

 

[asaad-ul-islam]

- stealth technology to lower the radar cross-section of aircraft;

alhamdulillah, to think how far we've come. I remember when I was young, the F-16 embargo shocked everyone. Now, insha'Allah we will soon make and even design aircraft that could possibly have stealth qualities, we make our tanks that are world-class, cruise missiles, submarines(soon nuclear), ammunitions, CEM(combined effect munitions), precision guided weapons, night vision goggles, and soon AWACS. the future of our defense industry looks bright, considering if we could capture the muslim markets including arabia($31 billion).

 

[echo 1]

Any news on reasurch and development on the Al-khalid II project between the two counteries

 

[Majnun]

Very good. Pakistan should look to make their relations with their brother, Turkey, better and it is one of the best sources for military help to Pakistan.

 

[asaad-ul-islam]

Very good. Pakistan should look to make their relations with their brother, Turkey, better and it is one of the best sources for military help to Pakistan.

true to that, brother. pakistan could largely benefit from joint ventures with turkey that has access to western military technology. things are alhamdulillah, starting to look a little up for pakistan and muslim countries now that we are starting to work together!

 

[Majnun]

Of the delivery of F16s US will give to Pakistan, some are to be in Turkey, as well, aren't they?

 

[asaad-ul-islam]

yes, they will have MLU done in turkey under the observation of PAF engineers, insha'Allah.

 

[xinhui]

almost identical article, but this time from defense news instead of Janes.

Defense News, September 8, 2008

Turkey and Pakistan Strengthen Defense Ties
By USMAN ANSARI




KARACHI * Pakistan and Turkey have had defense ties since the 1950s, but only recently have they begun to more fully take advantage of each others’ military industries. One turning point was the 2003 creation of the Pakistan-Turkey Mil*itary Dialogue Group, which fos*tered joint ventures and other co*operative-development agreements, said Haris Khan of the Pakistan Mil*itary Consortium, a Web-based Pak*istani think tank.
But the best evidence is Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI)’s vic*tory in the competition to up*grade Pakistani F-16s.
TAI, which beat out the Nether*lands ’ Fokker and Belgium ’s SABCA, is to sign a contract later this year to upgrade about 36 Pakistan Air Force Block 15 F-16s nearly to the Block 52 standard. Contract figures have not been released.
The work is to be done in Turkey between 2010 and 2012. Some of the new systems may come from Turkish companies. Havelsan sup*plied Pakistan with its Electronic Warfare Test and Training Range in a $28 million deal.
TAI also may yet win a contract to upgrade aspects of the newer Block 52 aircraft, referred to as Block 52M
* for modernized * by Pakistan , ordered in a December deal.
In March, Pakistan signed a $78.2 million Foreign Military Sales deal to buy the ALQ-211(V)*4 Advanced Integrated Defense Electronics Warfare System (AIDEWS), associated spares and support equipment from Chan*dler, Ariz.-based ITT Avionics. The AIDEWS is designed to detect and identify threats before the carrying aircraft can itself be detected, then emit deceptive countermeasure signals.
The deal does not include the Digital Radio Frequency Memory (DRFM) threat library, which would have cost extra and yet is essential for jamming radar.
But Turkey may upgrade its similar SPEWS-II system, which is being co-produced in Turkey by Aselsan-Mikes and BAE Systems, to fit the AIDEWS.
“It may be safe to assume” that this Pak-Turkish cooperation “in*cludes cooperation in dealing with the Digital Radio Frequency Memory threat library,” Khan said.
It is likely that Turkey will up*date the DRFM library from the SPEWS-II to be compatible with the AIDEWS, and share this with Pakistan , he said.
Both countries manufacture the Grad 122mm rocket. Turkish companies Roketsan and MKEK (Turkish Mechanical and Chemi*cal Industry Corporation) have proposed joint production and sales of the weapon.
Naval Deals
Considerable interest is also being shown in Turkish naval products. In 2006, Pakistan ordered two MRTP*33 fast attack craft from Turkey ’s Yonca Onuk shipyard, the first of which was delivered last December and the second in January.
In June, Turkey ’s Aselsan Elec*tronic Industries finalized a deal to sell four Stabilized Naval Gun System gyro-stabilized 25mm cannons to be fitted aboard the MRTP-33s.
Turkey also ordered two Yonca Onuk MRTP-15 patrol craft, which were delivered in July-August of 2004.
Officials in Ankara also hope Islamabad will buy the Turkish Mil*gem corvette, or National Ship, de*veloped by Turkey ’s Patrol and Anti Submarine Warfare Ships Acquisi* tion Project and expected to con*tain many Aselsan products.
Pakistan and Turkey could devel*op plans to co-produce submarines if Islamabad decides to buy German HDW Type-214 subs. Pakistan has generally built and operated submarines of French design, while Turkey has traditionally opted for German subs.
Turkey might also be interested in the Advanced Towed Array Sonar made by Pakistan ’s Marine Systems that is to be installed on Pakistan ’s next-generation submarine and corvette.
Turkey is also likely interested in Pakistan ’s Babur cruise missile, which Turkey could use to equip its submarines to strike land targets.
The Pakistani-Turkish relation*ship has deepened over the years, said Pervaiz Iqbal Cheema, head of the Islamabad Policy Research In*stitute. Both have been under inter*national sanctions, but have never “let the other down in any way … and continue to support each other in disputes they are involved in,” Cheema said.
The defense relationship can therefore “take advantage of what each does better than the other,” and this exchange of knowledge will help both to carve a niche for themselves in the global arms bazaar, he said.




E-mail: uansari@defensenews.com.

 

[ejaz007]

Indeed good news for both countries. I think Pakistan should look to increase cooperation in the naval field. We surely could use Turkish corvettes.

 

[salman nedian]

Turkish navy is probably the most experienced and equipped navy in the Muslim world so it would be better if Pakistan try to build our navy as stronger as Turkey with transfer of technology and R&D agreements.

 

[Tayyab1796]

- stealth technology to lower the radar cross-section of aircraft;

I love this one bit.... that wud be great . With all weather and night warfare added with this bit PAF wud be a force to reckon with ... long live Pak-Turk brotherhood.

 

[Babur Han]

Good news on cooperation in some high tech fields:

- NBC protection

- Precision guided munitions

- Stealth Technology (possible future applications for JF-17?)

- Tubojet motors - Does turkey manufacture cruise missiles/naval missiles etc? If not, potentially a means to circumvent the MTCR? Locally developed.manufactured jet engines?

Turkish Institute Tubitak has allready developed RAM(Raqar absorbing Materials), these Materials will be used by TIHA MALE UAV and T-129 Attack Helicopter to reduce the RCS.

TEI has concluded the development of an indigenous Turbojetengine, which is capable to Power UAV's and Target Drones, the Target Drone Simsek is equippt with this Turbojet Engine. Turkish Institutes working on the Development of an indigenous Sea - skimming Missile, called "Atmaca". Atmaca will be equippt with a Turbojet Engine built by TEI, a Active Radar Seeker from Aselsan and should have a Range more than 70 KM.

 

[Tajdar adil]

Pakistan need to get F 35 from Turkey because Turkey is aldo in this F 35 making programe.
anyone agree with me.