Pakistan, Afghan envoys in US trade barbs at Washington moot

[Kabira]

“We must work with Pakistan, yes. Which Pakistan? The one occupied by the military or the civil government?” he asked.

This is rich coming from Afghanis who are under foreign kuffar occupation for 17 years and no end in sight.

 

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This is rich coming from Afghanis who are under foreign kuffar occupation for 17 years and no end in sight.

that's part of the problem they are trying to resolve and the they have to start by making Pakistan stop the support for the taleban and other jihadi outfits that necessitate intervention by the west. The west is frankly less kufar than what I see many Pakistanis do though

 

[Kabira]

that's part of the problem they are trying to resolve and the they have to start by making Pakistan stop the support for the taleban and other jihadi outfits that necessitate intervention by the west. The west is frankly less kufar than what I see many Pakistanis do though

Gau mata ke pujari you shouldn't say things without any proof. Pakistan no longer support taliban, this isn't 90's when Pak supported them diplomatically since they formed government in Kabul. As far as jihad is concerned, they have been jihadis for centuries. Why do you think afghani foot soldiers were always ready to kill as many hindus as possible and die in process? To either get in to jannat or loot. Same is happening in Afghanistan now.

They don't need anyone help to see that kuffar occupation isn't acceptable and they keep getting support from locals. If only Kashmiris also developed jihadi tendencies at the right time then they would have been free.

 

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Gau mata ke pujari you shouldn't say things without any proof. Pakistan no longer support taliban, this isn't 90's when Pak supported them diplomatically since they formed government in Kabul. As far as jihad is concerned, they have been jihadis for centuries. Why do you think afghani foot soldiers were always ready to kill as many hindus as possible and die in process? To either get in to jannat or loot. Same is happening in Afghanistan now.

They don't need anyone help to see that kuffar occupation isn't acceptable and they keep getting support from locals. If only Kashmiris also developed jihadi tendencies at the right time then they would have been free.

fully understandable why it grates you guys so bad but yeah, teh why is rather obvious, long standing, well proven and quite simple. Pak military establishment cannot survive without the cycle of jihadi terrorism and anti jihadi terrorism. So they just practice on being both sides. They support the taleban and when the US asks, also supply a handful of coordinates to bomb.

 

[Kabira]

fully understandable why it grates you guys so bad but yeah, teh why is rather obvious, long standing, well proven and quite simple. Pak military establishment cannot survive without the cycle of jihadi terrorism and anti jihadi terrorism. So they just practice on being both sides. They support the taleban and when the US asks, also supply a handful of coordinates to bomb.

Pakistan isn't responsible to change afghan jihadi mindset. First Kabul will need to to remove foreign kuffar troops. Talies will still keep fighting but then Kabul will have moral high ground and can be ruthless against them. Locals will not support taliban after foreign kuffar leave, hopefully.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Pakistan isn't responsible to change afghan jihadi mindset. First Kabul will need to to remove foreign kuffar troops. Talies will still keep fighting but then Kabul will have moral high ground and can be ruthless against them. Locals will not support taliban after foreign kuffar leave, hopefully.

Afghanistan is a complete joke of a nation. Majority are drug addicts that hate eachother with a passion forget about Pakistan. They are a feral, savage and barbaric people destined to destroy themselves. Can't take them seriously. A nation of clowns, dimwits and thugs. Let them bark like dogs at the UN. They are powerless and incapable of doing anything apart from complaining against Pakistan. Keep it up most useless people on earth. Afghans are not even Muslims. They are the true Kaafirs.

 

[SabzShaheen]

Afghanistan is a complete joke of a nation. Majority are drug addicts that hate eachother with a passion forget about Pakistan. They are a feral, savage and barbaric people destined to destroy themselves. Can't take them seriously. A nation of clowns, dimwits and thugs. Let them bark like dogs at the UN. They are powerless and incapable of doing anything apart from complaining against Pakistan. Keep it up most useless people on earth. Afghans are not even Muslims. They are the true Kaafirs.

Almost completely agree with you but as tempting as it is, we shouldn't call them kaafirs as we risk the "kufr" being thrown back on us and only Allah (SWT) knows what is in their hearts. As you and I live in the UK we should continue to tolerate these Afghans until more can be done to teach them a lesson.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Almost completely agree with you but as tempting as it is, we shouldn't call them kaafirs as we risk the "kufr" being thrown back on us and only Allah (SWT) knows what is in their hearts. As you and I live in the UK we should continue to tolerate these Afghans until more can be done to teach them a lesson.

Understand bro. Just really annoyed at how ungrateful and poisonous these people are especially after what we have done for them the last 40 years. Trust me, Afghans are potentially more dangerous and a bigger threat to us than indians but they are too retarded and backward to do anything to us.

 

[SabzShaheen]

Understand bro. Just really annoyed at how ungrateful and poisonous these people are especially after what we have done for them the last 40 years. Trust me, Afghans are potentially more dangerous and a bigger threat to us than indians but they are too retarded and backward to do anything to us.

I totally agree bro. I have had personal problems with Afghans and I have a LOT of bad to say about them but we should try to keep insults to ourselves so we don't sin despite their horrible actions. Allah (SWT) will grant us and the entire Pakistani awam revenge from these namak haramis in this world and the Hereafter insha'Allah.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

What group of Afghans do you think are less anti-Pakistani than the others? Pashtuns maybe?

maybe less hostile yes
come to think of it despite handing over their leaders no Afghan taliban has ever said anything against Pakistan. Hikmatyar or Sirajudin Haqqani or Mullah Omar.. never voiced anything against Pakistan whereas the warlords and drug lords who used to be part of Communist regime and oppressors during the Soviet occupation .. formed the northern alliance and have been bad mouthing us since they seized power after American invasion

 

[SabzShaheen]

maybe less hostile yes
come to think of it despite handing over their leaders no Afghan taliban has ever said anything against Pakistan. Hikmatyar or Sirajudin Haqqani or Mullah Omar.. never voiced anything against Pakistan whereas the warlords and drug lords who used to be part of Communist regime and oppressors during the Soviet occupation .. formed the northern alliance and have been bad mouthing us since they seized power after American invasion

Well I mean we did support efforts to legitimise their rule

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I totally agree bro. I have had personal problems with Afghans and I have a LOT of bad to say about them but we should try to keep insults to ourselves so we don't sin despite their horrible actions. Allah (SWT) will grant us and the entire Pakistani awam revenge from these namak haramis in this world and the Hereafter insha'Allah.

Totally agree bro.

 

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Afghanis should be expelled from Pakistan (legal and illegal both). We need to fence our border and then deploy landmines to deter any border jumpers. If someone is interested to visit Pakistan, then they should apply through proper channels.

Afghanistan will always remain toxic and will always be a cause of great concern for our security on western borders. Pakistan should simply abandon support for any talks,because even after facilitating such talks, we get all the blame. So why can't other stakeholders who are interested should take the lead and resolve whatever they want to.

We should also look into creating a buffer zone in Afghanistan, as Northern-alliance is carrying out a genocide of indigenous Pukhtoon population, we should support them help create a government there.

 

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[Mian Babban]

Afghans are not even Muslims. They are the true Kaafirs.

We have a Takfiri here