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Pakistan : 14-year-old girl ‘raped’ in Faisalabad

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Yes but rape happens more in India and USA more.
Please lets not go there. You and I know rape statistics are only good as what is reported. 100 cases of rape but only only one gets reported. 10 cases of rape two get reported. What shows on the radar? And rape itself has many factors informing it. Like opportunity etc. To be honest I won't ascribe any particular religion, country or ethnic group with this crime.

What we can all agree is rape is a disgusting and vile crime - anywhere and everywhere. And let's all condemn it. Rape should have no borders.
 
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We should not feel proud comparing rape incidents, they will say India is big country, Then what will you answer him, we should just oppose these incident.
Check the statistics then

Please lets not go there. You and I know rape statistics are only good as what is reported. 100 cases of rape but only only one gets reported. 10 cases of rape two get reported. What shows on the radar? And rape itself has many factors informing it. Like opportunity etc. To be honest I won't ascribe any particular religion, country or ethnic group with this crime.

What we can all agree is rape is a disgusting and vile crime - anywhere and everywhere. And let's all condemn it. Rape should have no borders.
Check the statistics then
 
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Check the statistics then
Statistics are only good as what is reported and collated.

Statistics are only good as what is reported and collated.
In my district in Pakistan rape either would lead to somebody being murdered [very likely] or covered up [unlikely] but one thing is very, very, very, very unlikely. It showing up as 'rape' on Federal Bureau of Statistics records or police records ....

So try to be real please. In UK guy goes out with his girlfriend with whom he has two kids. Gets drunk and somewhere ends up trying it but she says 'no' this time. Guy persists. Next morning he is sat in jail facing rape charge. Try to see that stats are only good as the societies they are collated in which can vary enormously.
 
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No idea what 'Muslim' has got to do wth anything. Rape is a crime and it happens everywhere. I wish PDF put some control on these rape threads as it's pretty obvious rape is being used by posters to slag the rival countries. It serves no good purpose. Only threads that explore the subject from a new angle or offer new insight or are particulary disgusting even by rape standards should be allowed. This constant posting of rapes is wrong. I also detect vicarious pleasure in many posters which is disgusting and utterly reprehensible.There is a victim behind each of these incidents we need to think about.

@waz you guys needs to look into this. @Moonlight Your thoughts?

That’s pretty stupid to talk about the religion the rapist. Unfortunately, across the globe, this heinous crime is increasing with every passing day.
We are still into the debate, which country, what religion, or wether the rapist is educated or not. Like what?
Honestly, no one is giving enough attention to this cancer. It becomes a news for couple of hrs to maximum a day. And then we wait for the next unfortunate incident.

Ps: and to your concern of posting too many articles and news regarding the rape on PDF is genuine.
Both Indian and Pakistani members create a thread whenever come across any news about the rape. It should be stopped. I totally agree.
 
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Statistics are only good as what is reported and collated.

In my district in Pakistan rape either would lead to somebody being murdered [very likely] or covered up [unlikely] but one thing is very, very, very, very unlikely. It showing up as 'rape' on Federal Bureau of Statistics records or police records ....

So try to be real please. In UK guy goes out with his girlfriend with whom he has two kids. Gets drunk and somewhere ends up trying it but she says 'no' this time. Guy persists. Next morning he is sat in jail facing rape charge. Try to see that stats are only good as the societies they are collated in which can vary enormously.
I will add one more thing, Bacha baazi (child rape) is very common in Pakistan , newspapers are filled with it, other remains unreported, Even in Many cases masjid molvi were found raping children in madrasas. You heard about Qasoor as hub of place for bacha Baazi & many other places.
 
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I would like to add one more thing, Bacha baazi (child rape) is very common in Pakistan , newspapers are filled with it, other remains unreported, Even in Many cases masjid molvi were found raping children in madrass. You heard about Qaasor has hub of place for bacha Baazi & many other places.


You know why even today we are discussing this? Because even after the Qasoor scandal no rapist was hanged to death in public.

Media did shows for couple of days and then everyone moved on and forgot about this scandal.

“Mujhe yeh dar nahi Ke Yeh mulk Kese chale ga, mujhe yeh dar hai Ke kahin aise he na chalta rahe”.
 
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I also detect vicarious pleasure in many posters which is disgusting and utterly reprehensible.There is a victim behind each of these incidents we need to think about.

It definitely has sickened me what I have seen in this forum. Then the use of it in identity politics to attack individuals here (for being members of the sullied group)....even in completely non-related threads about completely different subjects. This is how vicious groups in darkest moments of history operated too (KKK notably comes to mind).

The victim basically doesnt matter at all...the follow up (criminal court wise) is not reported....it all devolves to emotional taunting (sustained by anonymity internet affords...like the hoods of the klan) on the spur of the moment....or worse.
 
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Media did shows for couple of days and then everyone moved on and forgot about this scandal.

Exactly what I am talking about! Lot of hypocritical degenerates everywhere!
 
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Exactly what I am talking about! Lot of hypocritical degenerates everywhere!

It is very unfortunate, even rape cases become “Breaking news” and that to only because other channels are reporting and we don’t wanna left behind in this race of “we are the first one to break the news.”
 
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what happened to the peopel who shot pregnant singer???? I really like to see them dying dog death
 
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Let's not score brownie points over such heinous crimes. We have enough other subjects to fight over.
 
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Unfortunately, across the globe, this heinous crime is increasing with every passing day.

I think the crime has always persisted more or less* at the same level (% of victims/total population) for human civilisation generally. Pre-civilisation, by the anthropogenic studies of Amazonian tribes etc, it (along with violence in general) was much higher. Comparing from civilisation/society to another one shows difference levels too (but the research is ongoing and somewhat stalled in todays PC culture though)...but within one (society)...whatever the society/civ... more or less the levels persist the same rate even in long time spans.

What we are seeing today is confluence of mass media (incl social media) and more shock value reporting of the instances (which I do welcome if done honestly with good faith, but rarely is sadly). i.e a lot of this stuff would have been repressed decades and centuries ago....but it is not like they happened much less frequently. The observation is just more acute now compared to then...and the speed of discourse much faster too.

* There are however data to support your point its increasing now compared to before given:

a) culture itself being "shocked" at ever increasing pace due to globalisation etc (i.e social stability/norms eroding) b) Large populations of single young men (specifically in lower classes given women can marry upwards easier when they are fewer in number) due to gender selection birth control in India, China and many others. This is linked to a) but a more general civilisation "shock" due to advent of birth control tech and availability. Disgruntled young (esp poor) men who are doomed to not have a bride is a really serious demographic problem.

Both a and b are not being researched well (with good quality empirical data), because govts generally dont want you know these structural problems that have just started to expand. Thus they deflect (when pushed) more to the more generalised conversation of "rape culture" and the typical new age feminist talking points (patriarchy etc etc).....rather than the serious studies of the underlying (and growing) problems.

We need much more open debate and open neutral and scientific study and complete rational discourse....rather than accept and submit to the current and "neat" controlled channels which is really the agenda of the mass media on cue from the govts and elitists....because this topic is not a simple one to explain in just one or two twitter hashtags.
 
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