Pakhtun long march or Afghan long march?

[Ocean]

I was talking about someone who was killed recently in FATA who also attended long march. ANP is implying agencies did it.

Now the case of Karachi's Mehsud is clear as day and we know who is behind it but even then ANP turned its guns towards army because they support PPP.

Army was already working on clearing mines, that was just another demand for the heck of it because of ANP agenda. I like what army is doing now, securing border and support FATA merger with KP. In 80's same army was to blame for why afghani terrorism was brought in.

Pashtun tribes protested in Karachi but longmarch in Islamabad was organised by ANP with agenda of turning attention away from Zardari fav target killer.

What really had me surprised when they started protests in islamabad for naqeeb and few days into it the dharna totally changed and turned into political stuff. And everybi tl outlet is reporting it calling it "Pushtoon Spring" "Fata spring"

And almost daily news on this March is getting published in western dailies.

Lastly, i think the way rao anwaar was given a long rope and had been getting away with atrocious crimes and the way naqeeb was a commoner , not a high ranking persons son, where chances of his influential murderer getting away were much higher, it was a surprise that because of him this murderer was suspended and ordered an arrest. So that was a good development in a way but its dig sindh ad khawajahs incompetence or rather compalcence that rao anwar managed to go at large , but still good on that fia officer who disallowed roa anwar from flying out of country at airport ,now has zardari sent rao out of the country on some private jet or where is he?

Also rao anwar had sent a letter to sc but he didnt appear so is he in pakistan or...? Sc had ordered intel agencies as well to look out for him idunno why its taking so long.

propaganda pictures without context. Army shouldn't be blamed for doings its job now but why they allowed afghanis in to Pakistan and gave us decade of terrorism.

Just checked your link and indeed these pictures are from Balochistan event. Terrorists are known to use kids for bomb blasts. Very rarely grown up militant have blown himself up.

Yaar yeh banda real napster har bar baloch terror groups and anp and pustoon nationalists and afghan propagadansts and terrorists kay pages and blogs say fake ya msititled out of context pics share kar kay pakistan army ko malign karnay ki koshish karta hai.

I have a cousin who was deployed in fata front and if these people criticizing army had to operate in that theatre they would have known what army has done for these fata people more than for us pakistanis. Woh bicharay itnay mushkil halat may kaam kartay hain and they are not even allowed to comunicate via mails or phone with their families as long as they are present in those specific areas as in some restrictions are there - idont remember these details exactly but something like this happens and its extremely strenuous for them.

Magar nahi yahan tau propaganda pics hamid karzai ki retweet ki hui share ki ja rahi hain.
And this is the time when our army men need our most support and here unhi kay baray jhooti pics dali ja rahi hain. Yaar kaisay log hain

 

[RealNapster]

Jibran Nasir, who has been a very vocal supporter of the Pashtun Long March said he talked to family members of the guy killed, etc, the murder seems to be out of personal enmity.

https://twitter.com/x/status/967715895668891648

Anyways, this article seems to be rubbish. You cant dismiss the pashtun long march by simply labeling them all Afghans.

Exactly. But people here seems to be too...... narrow minded. Calling those Pakhtoon Afghan.

Firstly you had shared two pics whose link i gave and i had busted both those pics. Then again in this post youshared two images which ithink ypu have removed those two iamges again were to show pushtoon victimization and paint Pakistan army as barbarians as you are suggesting in the post. Firstly i checked both images on line and just like ypur previous images these images too were used by pushtoon nationalists /terrorists , afghans and baloch terror groups websites and blogs.

Here your first pic

As you have removed those two images lemme post them again

You tried to show this is a norm in fata that pak armies frisk men like this. Right? The zalim army.

So here you go the pic is from 2010 a very khooni year and it was taken after a blast in peshawar which killed 102 ppl

This is the image and caption

Pakistan army troops frisk a man near the site of a small explosion in Peshawar, Pakistan.
http://gulfnews.com/news/asia/pakistan/pakistan-attack-toll-mounts-to-102-official-1.652182


Now your second image about zalim pak army frisking kids

This image you had shared and this image was tweeted by some pushtoon nationalist or afghan and then hamid karzai had retweeted it to spread propaganda

This is the caption of image and here it could be found on this link. You claimed this picture is from fata and zalim pak army is even checking kids. This pic from balochistan. And for the audiences coming to attend a sports festival and pic is at the entry gate to the stadium where for security army officers are frisking everyone Have some shame.

And this is the caption

ماضی میں بچوں کو دہشتگردی کے لیے استعمال کیے جانے کے واقعات کی وجہ سے سکیورٹی اہل کار اب کوئی خطرہ مول لینے کے لیے تیار نہیں

Translation: due to terrorists using kids for bombings security personnel are not ready to take risk and are even frisking kids who are coming to attend festival.

http://www.bbc.com/urdu/multimedia/2014/03/140326_pictures_quetta_festival_kazim_ra


I have lost every bit of respect for you. Its mot that army is angel its that ypu have been picking all baloch and pushtoon online terror groups tweets and facebook posts fake propaganda pictures to paint fata people as severe victims of atrocities and pak army as some beasts

@Kabira

You know why i removed those pictures i shared ? Because i didnt wanted to start a blame game instead i wanted a decent discussion regarding Pakistani institution like army. Bjt then again you seems to be more intrested in those pictures instead of the words i hard. Never mind.

I have lost every bit of respect for you

I am doomed. Now what will i do for living. Heck

Yes he believed the first post assuming its true and hes talking about afghanis and afghan refugees as we all call them those names he has used. His comment isnt for fata people. I have read him he says these words for afghan refugees as we all do but only that here he believed the first post and thought all protestors were afghan refugees which wasnt true. Also the protests in the beginning had started using naqeebs name few days later naqeebs name had totally reduced to almost getting no mention in sit in and new demands were

1 person called all the long march participant "afghan". Then come another one who cursed them all with words cant be repeted. And you are fine with that. But hay, i hurt your feelings ? Hypocrasy at its best.

 

[newb3e]

bring Rao Anwar to justice hang him and his master be it Zardari or Dha or Malik Riaz end this matter today and protests will end...delay is just helping enemy manupilate frustrated people ,people treated like cockroaches by rich and powerful enemy is using this frustration where is our brave inteliintell service? they cant catch a no body like Rao Anwar how can we expect them to catch and eliminate those respnsible for killing our people!!

 

[Zibago]

Its a shame that we are "discussing" such a thread. So now whenever pashtoon tribes stage any protest, we have to first check their CNIC's. Wow.

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Now, i won't call it Pashtoon genocide. As nothing like such exist. But you all have to agree that some one was murdered. That too, by the most powerful police officer of Karachi. This man deserve justice. And then we hear news like this.
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Man i love my nation and my armed forces. I would be the first to sacrifice my life for this nation whenever need arise. But you have to bring down the armed forces from the position of angels to that of humans. You have to agree that they too make mistakes. That they too can be criticised for their wrong doings. Am i asking for too much ?
@Ocean ?

A person on this forum is calling all those protesters "afghan" . And you are ok with that. But you have problem with my criticism ? Whenever i criticise this society i do not negate and abondon it. I just criticise it. Dont think too much into it. Its my socuety and i am equally responsible for its problems. Dont disown me for this.

They were not Afghans i know folks who were there they disbanded the dharna when Afghans tried to hijack it and anti army elements penetrated the dharna

 

[RealNapster]

They were not Afghans i know folks who were there they disbanded the dharna when Afghans tried to hijack it and anti army elements penetrated the dharna

Exactly. But some thick head persons here don't seem to understand this.