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US National Security Advisor told Pakistan’s NSA in Geneva last Sunday that the United States requests the “kinetic use of drones” from inside Pakistani territory until September 2021. Pakistan’s NSA rejected the request. The U.S. also offered drone surveillance capabilities of the Pak-Afghan border. The Pakistani NSA told him that this is not 2008, we have our own drones now. Foreign Minister stated today “Pakistan does not need your surveillance drones nor will ever allow either kinetic drone operations or American bases”.
 
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At the end of the day the optics significantly matters in a democracy! President Biden's signature foreign-policy achievement so far is the Afgan withdrawal. And, it needs to be proven little better than the Vietnam one, especially now that the Taliban are marching toward Kabul with a new vigor....

It's the time to negotiate like a pro....
 
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Pakistan offered to reset ties, Biden answered Pakistan with complete disregard and disrespect. What the hell did the US expect would be Pakistan's answer to their request for a drone base?

Pak-NSA is right, this isn't 2008.

Biden still has a chance to fix all of this, all he needs to do is pick up the phone and call IK, I doubt he'll do it though, his dumbass advisers are probably the ones who're telling him to treat Pakistan badly.
 
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These over-bleached bonzo's have been living under the Trump rock for the last 4 years, they need to wake up and smell the coffee


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US National Security Advisor told Pakistan’s NSA in Geneva last Sunday that the United States requests the “kinetic use of drones” from inside Pakistani territory until September 2021. Pakistan’s NSA rejected the request. The U.S. also offered drone surveillance capabilities of the Pak-Afghan border. The Pakistani NSA told him that this is not 2008, we have our own drones now. Foreign Minister stated today “Pakistan does not need your surveillance drones nor will ever allow either kinetic drone operations or American bases”.
These over-bleached bonzo's have been living under the Trump rock for the last 4 years, they need to wake up and smell the coffee

Why don't they fucking go to India for which they tried hard to convince that they have a role in Afghanistan?
 
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US National Security Advisor told Pakistan’s NSA in Geneva last Sunday that the United States requests the “kinetic use of drones” from inside Pakistani territory until September 2021. Pakistan’s NSA rejected the request. The U.S. also offered drone surveillance capabilities of the Pak-Afghan border. The Pakistani NSA told him that this is not 2008, we have our own drones now. Foreign Minister stated today “Pakistan does not need your surveillance drones nor will ever allow either kinetic drone operations or American bases”.
source ....?
 
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US National Security Advisor told Pakistan’s NSA in Geneva last Sunday that the United States requests the “kinetic use of drones” from inside Pakistani territory until September 2021. Pakistan’s NSA rejected the request. The U.S. also offered drone surveillance capabilities of the Pak-Afghan border. The Pakistani NSA told him that this is not 2008, we have our own drones now. Foreign Minister stated today “Pakistan does not need your surveillance drones nor will ever allow either kinetic drone operations or American bases”.

What's the source for this?
 
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US know Pak is the only gateway to Afghanistan. once they leave that door will be closed on them forever. I don't think Pak will support US to perpetually destabilize the region.

And that door should closed and locked. US had 20 years. If they could not do shit in 2 decaeds, there is no chance they will do any better with these kind of operations. A regional approach with China, Russia, Iran will be a better way to deal with Afghanistan problem. Any country like India or USA which does not have borders with Afghanistan will be there for their interests only.
Pakistan offered to reset ties, Biden answered Pakistan with complete disregard and disrespect. What the hell did the US expect would be Pakistan's answer to their request for a drone base?

Pak-NSA is right, this isn't 2008.

Biden still has a chance to fix all of this, all he needs to do is pick up the phone and call IK, I doubt he'll do it though, his dumbass advisers are probably the ones who're telling him to treat Pakistan badly.

The response from Imran will be the same. They are used to Pakistan lying down on one photo shoot or a single phone call. This is not that Pakistan especially not under Imran.
 
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Considering Pakistan has so much more of an interest in the stability of the region, the US would be better off asking Pakistan how it could solve the problems the US perceives it faces from the region first.

This is the approach the US has with South Korea vis a vi North Korea, or European NATO partners when it came to the Soviet Union.

This is the approach that worked in the 80s when it came to organizing the response to the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan.
 
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And that door should closed and locked. US had 20 years. If they could not do shit in 2 decaeds, there is no chance they will do any better with these kind of operations. A regional approach with China, Russia, Iran will be a better way to deal with Afghanistan problem. Any country like India or USA which does not have borders with Afghanistan will be there for their interests only.


The response from Imran will be the same. They are used to Pakistan lying down on one photo shoot or a single phone call. This is not that Pakistan especially not under Imran.
True, however the US would then be in a position to negotiate, if Pakistan is shown some amount of respect.
 
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We should not let them use our airspace and ground to move their assets from Afghanistan to USA , its loud and clear pak is not and will never will be a US puppet
 
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US National Security Advisor told Pakistan’s NSA in Geneva last Sunday that the United States requests the “kinetic use of drones” from inside Pakistani territory until September 2021. Pakistan’s NSA rejected the request. The U.S. also offered drone surveillance capabilities of the Pak-Afghan border. The Pakistani NSA told him that this is not 2008, we have our own drones now. Foreign Minister stated today “Pakistan does not need your surveillance drones nor will ever allow either kinetic drone operations or American bases”.
Hey, can I get a source on this? Where did you get this info?
 
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Pakistan offered to reset ties, Biden answered Pakistan with complete disregard and disrespect. What the hell did the US expect would be Pakistan's answer to their request for a drone base?

Pak-NSA is right, this isn't 2008.

Biden still has a chance to fix all of this, all he needs to do is pick up the phone and call IK, I doubt he'll do it though, his dumbass advisers are probably the ones who're telling him to treat Pakistan badly.
We don't need further enmity with the Afghans and by housing Drones to bomb the Afghans it will exasperate things on the border and increase terrorism within Pakistan.
 
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Pakistan offered to reset ties, Biden answered Pakistan with complete disregard and disrespect. What the hell did the US expect would be Pakistan's answer to their request for a drone base?

Pak-NSA is right, this isn't 2008.

Biden still has a chance to fix all of this, all he needs to do is pick up the phone and call IK, I doubt he'll do it though, his dumbass advisers are probably the ones who're telling him to treat Pakistan badly.
They are probably thunk that since pakistan economy is really bad using IMF AB WB as a leverage will work

And they are probably right
And that door should closed and locked. US had 20 years. If they could not do shit in 2 decaeds, there is no chance they will do any better with these kind of operations. A regional approach with China, Russia, Iran will be a better way to deal with Afghanistan problem. Any country like India or USA which does not have borders with Afghanistan will be there for their interests only.


The response from Imran will be the same. They are used to Pakistan lying down on one photo shoot or a single phone call. This is not that Pakistan especially not under Imran.
He is leaving in 2023..americans have more interest in army command then IK since they preceive he has no support

And they are right

IK has no support in central punjab
 
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