Pak Taliban demand Rs400 million from oil firms, threatens attack

[regular]

Looks like RAW-MI6 squads are active again within our region...

 

[Doctor09]

The Taliban (AT/TTP, they are the same) and AQ "problems" are the problems of the Islamic world. The rest of the world is just suffering from this problem.

In the typical "denial" syndrome, some people want to make the non Muslims responsible for these problems.

For those who can rise above this denial, here is something to chew on.

An 11 part series. I think the parts 9 onwards deal with the issue of the Islamists' anger with the PA and hence Pakistan.

As one looks at this Jihadi video, the TTP has a clear reason for acting against PA. They consider that without defeating this "sellout, munafiq and secular" PA, they can never defeat the USA.

do you have any knowledge what you saying ?
who created Taliban ? USA and it is not islamic country
Haqqani had close relations with USA
Osama work with USA against Russia ....
it is not the problem created by muslim countries ....
And for TTP they said that they are not against NATO oil supply so it sends a clear message that they are not against NATO but only against Pakistan .... your denial syndrom is getting worse day by day

 

[Areesh]

Apne koi gandi sharab pe kar ye post likhi hain?

Nahi purana troll hai. Sharab nahi pi

 

[Vinod2070]

do you have any knowledge what you saying ?
who created Taliban ? USA and it is not islamic country
Haqqani had close relations with USA
Osama work with USA against Russia ....
it is not the problem created by muslim countries ....
And for TTP they said that they are not against NATO oil supply so it sends a clear message that they are not against NATO but only against Pakistan .... your denial syndrom is getting worse day by day

Taliban was not created by the USA. It was created in 1994, long after the USA had left.

If you are talking of supporting the Afghan rebels against the USSR, they had started before the USA came into the picture. USA just helped them with weapons and training. Else they would have been butchered by the USSR.

If someone helped a Muslim country for a period for a period of common interests, he doesn't become responsible for them for life, does he?

TTP obviously thinks that taking out the Munafiqs is higher priority than the crusaders.

 

[Doctor09]

Taliban was not created by the USA. It was created in 1994, long after the USA had left.

If you are talking of supporting the Afghan rebels against the USSR, they had started before the USA came into the picture. USA just helped them with weapons and training. Else they would have been butchered by the USSR.

If someone helped a Muslim country for a period for a period of common interests, he doesn't become responsible for them for life, does he?

TTP obviously thinks that taking out the Munafiqs is higher priority than the crusaders.

then why you blame muslims that its their problem only ? USA used talibans for its own interests and thats ok for you ,,,,
About TTP they have no concern with crusaders they are made for the purpose to destabilize Pakistan only and many countries helped them . they are enjoying safe heavens in Afghanistan . no one take action against them in Afghanistan and this shows who is their master .. Many consulates of India in Afghanistan are helping them and India and Afghanistan are also supporting BLA

 

[Vinod2070]

then why you blame muslims that its their problem only ? USA used talibans for its own interests and thats ok for you ,,,,

Not the Taliban. It helped Afghanistan when they were under attack by USSR. Supposedly Pakistan would have been the next target.

About TTP they have no concern with crusaders they are made for the purpose to destabilize Pakistan only and many countries helped them . they are enjoying safe heavens in Afghanistan . no one take action against them in Afghanistan and this shows who is their master .. Many consulates of India in Afghanistan are helping them and India and Afghanistan are also supporting BLA

Just watch that video and understand what they want.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Taliban was not created by the USA. It was created in 1994, long after the USA had left.

Really doesn’t matter now how they came into existence, the name might have been coined in 90s but their origin is the different Mujahideen groups that were lead by some very familiar names that later on came under the Taliban fold. Both the Afghan and Pakistani Taliban have made their intent clear what kind of political system they want to implement and there is no doubt about it that this system is unacceptable for Pakistan otherwise they would have been officially staging state executions of people in the Islamabad’s constitution avenue by now. Good or bad US, Saudis and Pakistan made a decision to use Wahabi brand of Islam as a driving force on top of the Afghan nationalism to fight the Soviets, it made sense back then and the results were achieved now things are different and it’s a waste of time to put all the blame on one party or another. It really doesn’t serve any purpose if any discussion relating to political unrest and instability has to bring in the already talked to death argument of who actually shares the blame for the formation of Taliban and leave no energy and will to talk about the solutions.

We are talking about Taliban mechanism of funding its movement here and their methods are no different to a lot of Local tribes in Balochsitan who extort funds from local and foreign companies as a protection money.

OGDC (oil & Gas Development Corp) not only pays the money but also "employees" the tribesmen who only need to come to "work" on their payday to collect the money.

OGDC is the biggest payer in terms of money and vehicles if it stops and seeks the help of the government then the abductions and sabotage activates resume in the name of nationalism. BLA has been blamed for kidnapping and killing both local and foreign workers in this regard and has received large sums of cash to secure the release

Terrorist organisations that are fighting an insurgencies have 3 sources of funds, foreign aid from countries that have their own motives behind the aid, the sympathisers with in the general public and through extortion, kidnap and robberies.

TTP did all the above with a big chunk of “donations” coming from the middle East and from the people sympathetic to their Islamic version and the rest through kidnap, looting and robberies.

 

[Fracker]

Taliban was not created by the USA. It was created in 1994, long after the USA had left.

If you are talking of supporting the Afghan rebels against the USSR, they had started before the USA came into the picture. USA just helped them with weapons and training. Else they would have been butchered by the USSR.

If someone helped a Muslim country for a period for a period of common interests, he doesn't become responsible for them for life, does he?

TTP obviously thinks that taking out the Munafiqs is higher priority than the crusaders.

You really need to learn History, and get your facts right!!

In 1993 they captured Ghandhar, how come they came into existence in 1994?

2ndly, Check US Higher official that they themself admit that they created Taliban. Throughout the Taliban tenor (1996 - 2001) Pakistan was supporting Taliban Rule. They give up their support in 2001 when US gave two options to pakistan (Be with us or against us). First attack from US on Afghanistan was from Peshawar Region also shows which side pakistan was when the war started

Till 2003 there was no TTP on the scene. They came into existence, and instead of going US rule they only attack Pakistan and never went after US. Even Mullah Umer (Taliban LeadeR) said they don't know who these TTP are. So ofcourse they has nothing to do with Original Taliban.

There was many criminal elements running different criminal organizations. They some how joined hands and made up TTP. That clearly shows what they are. After Pakistan kick many TTP Leaders out, now they are living safely inside Afghanistan and attacking different Pakistani sites clearly shows who are supporting them.

What ever TTP thinks doesn't matter to any Muslim, as most of the Islamic Scholars has given wordict against them and they have nothing to do with ISLAM.

 

[Developereo]

The Taliban (AT/TTP, they are the same) and AQ "problems" are the problems of the Islamic world. The rest of the world is just suffering from this problem.

In the typical "denial" syndrome, some people want to make the non Muslims responsible for these problems.

Nobody's "denying" these problems.

Almost everyone acknowledges that the TTP are Pakistani extremists who are angry at Pakistan for cooperating in the GWOT and who have an agenda to install extreme sharia law throughout Pakistan. That much is not at debate.

The issue is who is empowering them to carry out their objectives. The Arab funding seems pretty well established, so we will set it aside. Again, there is not much debate there.

The remaining issues are facts which some people want to ignore.

It is a fact that NATO/ISAF deliberately abandon their border posts when TTP attack into or flee from Pakistan. It is a fact that NATO has repeatedly declined to take action against TTP targets identified by Pak intelligence. It is a fact that a wanted BLA leader was being kept safe in Kabul.

Coming to India, it is a fact that India has a documented history of stoking and training terrorists in Sri Lanka and East Pakistan, not to mention Nepal and Tibet. Given such a checkered history and the continued animosity, India is a chief suspect.

 

[Doctor09]

You CANNOT pay them even if you want and BDW who told you that Pakistan doesn't wish to pay them??
Its not about if they want to pay or not but I am talking about the situation which doesn't allow pakistan to entertain such demands !!

its wise not to pay them and its wiser to be more alert from now on....

what a foolish question .... we are fighting against them and you expect that Pakistan will pay to its enemies... grow up
its not about economical condition of Pakistan its about our enemies against we are fighting

 

[Doctor09]

Mod Edit: Feeding a troll and quoting a post of low value never a good idea

Pakistan is already taking action against these morons and now they are attacking from Afghan side ........ pak army is already doing operation against them

 

[Vinod2070]

Nobody's "denying" these problems.

Almost everyone acknowledges that the TTP are Pakistani extremists who are angry at Pakistan for cooperating in the GWOT and who have an agenda to install extreme sharia law throughout Pakistan. That much is not at debate.

The issue is who is empowering them to carry out their objectives. The Arab funding seems pretty well established, so we will set it aside. Again, there is not much debate there.

The remaining issues are facts which some people want to ignore.

It is a fact that NATO/ISAF deliberately abandon their border posts when TTP attack into or flee from Pakistan. It is a fact that NATO has repeatedly declined to take action against TTP targets identified by Pak intelligence. It is a fact that a wanted BLA leader was being kept safe in Kabul.

Coming to India, it is a fact that India has a documented history of stoking and training terrorists in Sri Lanka and East Pakistan, not to mention Nepal and Tibet. Given such a checkered history and the continued animosity, India is a chief suspect.

So what I understand from your post is this.

You know that they are Pakistanis and Muslims. You know that the funding for them is coming from the gulf. You also know that their agenda is imposition of their extremist beliefs on the rest of Pakistan/Afghanistan.

Now these are facts that one can not deny and you seem to agree with them.

What you seem to have against NATO/ISAF is that they are not attacking the TTP enough. I think the whole drone campaign is about attacking the Taliban and both TTP and AT (if they are really different) are getting killed in massive numbers.

I can't say if they abandoned the posts due to their operational priorities (like you have yours in Pakistan) or to deliberately support the TTP.

About India, all you seem to have is a suspicion.

You are underplaying the known facts and want to focus on suspicions? Even though the suspicion part is not really compatible with the facts.

Those Islamists are our enemies and the enemies of the West. Who do you think they will target next once they are done with you?

You may think we are fools to nurture these snakes. I would disagree. We have only contempt for the Taliban operating on either side of that non existent Durand line.

 

[DarK-LorD]

Only one other than Pakistanis to link TTP with India were some small time UAE officials,who were probably under Pakistani influence & money.
Hillary Clinton declared that India doesn't support Terrorists.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/no-proof-of-indian-role-in-balochistan-hill/535830/

 

[regular]

Taliban was not created by the USA. It was created in 1994, long after the USA had left.

If you are talking of supporting the Afghan rebels against the USSR, they had started before the USA came into the picture. USA just helped them with weapons and training. Else they would have been butchered by the USSR.

If someone helped a Muslim country for a period for a period of common interests, he doesn't become responsible for them for life, does he?

TTP obviously thinks that taking out the Munafiqs is higher priority than the crusaders.

Infact the Talibans were initially created to set some UNO trucks free from Afghan warlords in 1994. Some of the Taliban leaderswere on UN/US payroll. But gradually they got exposed working for US interests.The middle Taliban took control later when US arrived and kikedout the US agents. Still there are US agents disguised in Talibans...

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plus the Pakistan Talibans or Alqaida are total US-MI6-Mosaad and RAW agents ...no doubt about that....

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Pakistan is already taking action against these morons and now they are attacking from Afghan side ........ pak army is already doing operation against them

Cuz US/NATO providing them good/safe cover there. Shame on US/NATO for double track game with us........

 

[American Pakistani]

400million too much, just give some bullets in their chest worth 400thousands.